Navaretto to Yankees

[jorgenswest]

Brian Navaretto was traded to Yankees for cash considerations.

[VATwinsFan]

 

Bizarre. Accumulating cash for that big trade for (fill in Bumgarner, Stroman, Smith, Giles, Minor, etc.) and 3 year extension with (fill in same name)?

My initial thought as well, but it is hard to believe the cash received for Morin, Magill and Navaretto would amount to more than a couple of drops in the bucket for someone who has a big salary.

[Tom Froemming]

I'm guessing Navarreto was going to be released. He played 137 games for Fort Myers and 166 in Double A, it's kinda that time to either move him up or move him on. He's a very good defensive catcher, but is hitting .177/.229/.331 (.559 OPS) this year. Ryan Jeffers is moving up to take his spot in Pensacola.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Heard an interview with the Pensacola broadcaster last month, and he mentioned Navaretto as a sort of clubhouse leader for that team.

[operation mindcrime]

We probably got something like $15,000 for him!

[RedBull34]

Meh, he probably gets a better opportunity in New York or gets to go to AAA and MN has better depth pieces yet.

 

Possibly he even requested a "promote or trade me" type scenario.

[MMMordabito]

Posada and Berra's team records are very much in jeopardy now.

[Homer Hanky]

Can someone help me understand why we would want cash for all these guys we have traded vs even a low A player? Besides the obvious that we all love cash! 

[nicksaviking]

 

We probably got something like $15,000 for him!

 

Maybe I should be ashamed of myself, but if someone was willing to give me $15,000 for something that I was going to give away for free, I'd probably take the money too.

[Tom Froemming]

 

Can someone help me understand why we would want cash for all these guys we have traded vs even a low A player? Besides the obvious that we all love cash! 

They were all going to be gone for nothing.

[gil4]

I'd rather release him and hope someone else signs him than give him to the Yankees for $15K.

[Blake]

 

I'm guessing Navarreto was going to be released. He played 137 games for Fort Myers and 166 in Double A, it's kinda that time to either move him up or move him on. He's a very good defensive catcher, but is hitting .177/.229/.331 (.559 OPS) this year. Ryan Jeffers is moving up to take his spot in Pensacola.

Or, Falvey lost a bet with Cashman.

[nicksaviking]

 

I'd rather release him and hope someone else signs him than give him to the Yankees for $15K.

 

Like Cleveland?

[RedBull34]

 

Can someone help me understand why we would want cash for all these guys we have traded vs even a low A player? Besides the obvious that we all love cash! 

Because that wasn't offered?

 

He's just organizational filler, he's not worth anybody worthy of labeling a prospect.

[Obsvr]

lol...navawho?

 

Who cares what they got for him...he was never going to play in a twins uniform.

[MMMordabito]

 

lol...navawho?

 

Who cares what they got for him...he was never going to play in a twins uniform.

 

There's an Office Space joke in there somewhere.

[Rosterman]

All those envelopes of cash showing up at the front office must raise havok for the administration!

 

[East Coast Twin]

 

Maybe I should be ashamed of myself, but if someone was willing to give me $15,000 for something that I was going to give away for free, I'd probably take the money too.

 

That would depend on how often you're giving it away for free.

[Dantes929]

I didn't even realize he was still with us.

[jokin]

 

I'm guessing Navarreto was going to be released. He played 137 games for Fort Myers and 166 in Double A, it's kinda that time to either move him up or move him on. He's a very good defensive catcher, but is hitting .177/.229/.331 (.559 OPS) this year. Ryan Jeffers is moving up to take his spot in Pensacola.

 

Definitely demonstrates a distinct change in philosophy from prior regime.

 

Then:

>Trading Aaron Hicks for "solid defensive catcher" JR Murphy comes to mind.

>Slowed Mitch Garver's ascent to the major league roster for defensive deficiencies.

>Drew Butera over Chris Herrmann.

 

Now:

>Saying bye-bye to Stuart Turner was one of Falvey's first moves.

>Fast-tracking of Ryan Jeffers- who is definitely a "hit-first" catcher.

 

[SwainZag]

 

Why do we keep getting Cash considerations instead of lottery ticket prospect's back. I know they want to create some space but all of these DFA's for cash instead of assets "talent" have bad optics this time of year. Seems silly to move on from a catching prospect, as hard as it is to find catching in MLB these day's. Maybe it doesn't matter and like someone said, he was likely to be released anyways.

 

What kind of prospect are you going to get for a near 25 year old player who can't hit AA pitching?  You aren't.

[Thrylos]

 

 

Possibly he even requested a "promote or trade me" type scenario.

 

Nah.  To do that one has to be able to hit his way out of a paper bag.  He can't.

[Mr. Brooks]

Why do we keep getting Cash considerations instead of lottery ticket prospect's back. I know they want to create some space but all of these DFA's for cash instead of assets "talent" have bad optics this time of year. Seems silly to move on from a catching prospect, as hard as it is to find catching in MLB these day's. Maybe it doesn't matter and like someone said, he was likely to be released anyways.

Navarreto isn't a catching prospect. He's organizational filler. If someone got confused and offered even the remotest of prospects for him, they'd have taken it instead of the cash.

[jorgenswest]

Definitely demonstrates a distinct change in philosophy from prior regime.

 

Then:

>Trading Aaron Hicks for "solid defensive catcher" JR Murphy comes to mind.

>Slowed Mitch Garver's ascent to the major league roster for defensive deficiencies.

>Drew Butera over Chris Herrmann.

 

Now:

>Saying bye-bye to Stuart Turner was one of Falvey's first moves.

>Fast-tracking of Ryan Jeffers- who is definitely a "hit-first" catcher.

Yes. Their staff hiring show how much they value defense from catcher but it is something they believe they can develop. Look at Garver’s improvement this year. It would be harder to develop the hit tool.

[bird]

 

Why do we keep getting Cash considerations instead of lottery ticket prospect's back. I know they want to create some space but all of these DFA's for cash instead of assets "talent" have bad optics this time of year. Seems silly to move on from a catching prospect, as hard as it is to find catching in MLB these day's. Maybe it doesn't matter and like someone said, he was likely to be released anyways.

 

 

The Twins signed a very high number of their 2019 Rule 4 draft choices. I'd bet that the type of prospect they might get for Navaretto would not be an improvement over these draftees, given the possibilities of development success. So why displace a potentially better prospect on one of the already-crowded rosters at low A and below?

 

This is an inconsequential move other than that it creates an advancement opportunity for a real prospect, in this case Ryan Jeffries. That's the real value of this move without any doubt.

[dougd]

I was one of several posters who believed Brian had the potential to contribute to the Twins as a third or fourth catcher who could be called up. His minor league hitting stats shouldn't be compared to those who come from college. Last year he was somewhat comparable to Drew Butera for his age. If only he could have drawn some walks.

 

I think this move says more about Jeffries (I posted a scouting report from BPro a month ago that thought Jeffries was a top 10 minor league catcher) than Brian. I hope his first base-winning hit against the Twins is not in an important game.

[jimbo92107]

We like to think that teams give up on a player because they just can't absorb some key lesson in learning the game of baseball. Unfortunately, sometimes the opposite is true. Sometimes an organization fails to communicate how to achieve optimal technique for a particular player. Sometimes that player needs to "get a fresh start" somewhere else, where the new team hopes to have the right lessons waiting. 

 

Thus, David Ortiz needed to go to Boston. Thus, Aaron Hicks needed to go to the Bombers. Maybe Brian Navaretto will thrive in an organization that likes to see how far you can hit a baseball, while installing a bully's arrogance. New York crowds can break a player, but the organization sometimes can bring the greatness out of a guy. Good luck to Brian Navaretto. 

[Shaitan]

 

Yes. Their staff hiring show how much they value defense from catcher but it is something they believe they can develop. Look at Garver’s improvement this year. It would be harder to develop the hit tool.

And his first free agent signing was the defense-first (well, pitch-framing anyway) Castro.

[gil4]

 

I'd rather release him and hope someone else signs him than give him to the Yankees for $15K.

 

Like Cleveland?

That would still be preferable. 

 

Odds are very long against him making it anyway, although catchers tend to take more time to develop. It's not like he is going to help with the race this year. 

[Thrylos]

 

I'd rather release him and hope someone else signs him than give him to the Yankees for $15K.

 

I hope you realize that by trading him to the Yankees the Twins did a favor to Navaretto and not the Yankees...