twins1095 Verified Member Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 Per 162 game pace stats: Sano - .346 OBP - .910 OPS 119 runs - 33 2B - 2 3B - 50 HR - 108 RBI Kepler .336 OBP - .865 OPS 117 runs - 37 2B - 46 HRs - 113 RBIs Polanco .358 OBP - .845 OPS 104 runs - 44 2B - 8 3B - 23 HRs - 85 RBIs Rosario .304 OBP - .821 OPS 114 runs - 30 2B - 2 3B - 42 HRs - 127 RBIs Arraez .412 OBP - .860 OPS 98 runs - 28 2Bs - 3 3Bs - 8 HRs - 56 RBIs
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 Which is only relevant if Sano ever gets close to playing 162 games. Or 122 for that matter.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 Which is only relevant if Sano ever gets close to playing 162 games. Or 122 for that matter.Which is why I don't believe 162 game paces are useful. 150 game paces? Sure, okay.
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 The Twins took 2 of 3 games from Detroit over the weekend and improved their winning percentage from .6063 to .6077. Detroit took 1 of 3 games from the Twins over the weekend and improved their winning percentage from .3040 to .3047.
twins1095 Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Which is why I don't believe 162 game paces are useful. 150 game paces? Sure, okay. I think per 162 game pace stats are useful, but you definitely need to understand that it’s just a tool to measure and standardize production. It’s similar to the per 100 possession stats people use for some analysis in basketballs. It’s not an accurate reflection of a true season or what will happen going forward. I would say it’s somewhat of an accurate measure of what HAS happened. And again, you definitely have to be cognizant of the limitations. If we tracked stats per game in baseball similar to basketball, we would say Sano hits .33 HRs a game which is top 10 in the league (hypothetical not sure what the actual numbers are) and be super excited that when Sano is on the field he’s near the top echelon of power hitters. However, in baseball...we look at aggregate numbers and are used to thinking about hitting tiers in terms of knowing how many aggregate home runs makes you an elite power hitter. I think the per 162 games stat allows you to basically look at per game stats in the aggregate format we are used to understanding baseball numbers in. The idea is not to say that Sano, or other players, will produce at that level going forward (although he might). The idea is to say this is how a player has played thus far and how that production thus far looks in an aggregate form. I can start posting 150 game samples too!
IndianaTwin Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Which is why I don't believe 162 game paces are useful. 150 game paces? Sure, okay.The same argument could be made against ERA being based on 9 IP, I suppose.
twins1095 Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Jake Cave has an .805 career OPS in 141 MLB games.
twinsguy45 Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 If perez and Pineda win one more game each, there will be 5 starters with at least 10 wins. When is the last time (if ever) the Twins had that?
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 If perez and Pineda win one more game each, there will be 5 starters with at least 10 wins. When is the last time (if ever) the Twins had that?In 2003, there were 4 with 12 wins (if you count Johan). And LaTroy Hawkins had 9.
Whammy Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 2010 we had five SP with 10+ wins AND one RP with 10+ wins
Whammy Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 2008 we had five SP win 10+ wins
Oldgoat_MN Verified Member Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 2010 we had five SP with 10+ wins AND one RP with 10+ winsAnd that reliever, of course, was Brian Duensing.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 Well, this makes me feel a little bit better about the postseason. From MLB.com: Odorizzi will line up to pitch on six days' rest on Wednesday against the White Sox, which bodes well for the Twins, as the All-Star right-hander is 5-0 with a 1.00 ERA, 43 strikeouts and eight walks this season when pitching on extra rest.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 If the 2019 Twins can coast through September with a winning record for the month, they will have gone an entire season without a losing month of baseball for the first time since 2002.
FlauerPauer Verified Member Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 If the 2019 Twins can coast through September with a winning record for the month, they will have gone an entire season without a losing month of baseball for the first time since 2002. This is pretty incredible. I wonder how many years the Yankees or Dodgers have gone without this happening. Really says how good of a year the Twins have had.
ScrapTheNickname Provisional Member Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 The Twins are NOT on a pace to set the all-time record for fewest stolen bases in a 162 game season. That record belongs to the Orioles in 2016 with 19. However, we can finish second, if we steal 35 or fewer!
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 The Twins took 2 of 3 games from Detroit over the weekend and improved their winning percentage from .6063 to .6077. Detroit took 1 of 3 games from the Twins over the weekend and improved their winning percentage from .3040 to .3047.I declare that, right there, as officially Fun With Numbers.
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 In 2003, there were 4 with 12 wins (if you count Johan). And LaTroy Hawkins had 9.That’s not what he asked.
Sssuperdave Verified Member Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 Right now the Twins have 5 pitchers on pace to throw enough innings to qualify for the ERA title. That last happened in 1963... Jim Perry, Dick Stigman, Lee Stange, Camilo Pascual, and Jim Kaat. And the worst ERA of that bunch was Jim Kaat!
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted August 30, 2019 Posted August 30, 2019 Scanning the box scores from the last three games (in which the Twins played Chicago and Detroit played Cleveland), the Tigers had one guy in the three games with an OPS above 750 (who promptly fell down to 711 by the end of the series), while the Twins had one guy in the three series below 750 OPS (Marwin; 743, who then sat out games two and three). And that included the game when Sano, Kepler and Garver sat on the bench. Tigers have four guys with OPS sub 700 and another three sub 600. Twins head to Detroit for four games this weekend. Kind of liking the matchup.
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted August 31, 2019 Posted August 31, 2019 If we finish the season with the same winning percentage as we have now we will end up at 100-62. Cleveland would have to go 22-5 to pass us.
Nine of twelve Verified Member Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 The AL Central is currently a collective 56 games under .500. No other division has a losing record.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted September 2, 2019 Posted September 2, 2019 Okay, this is a *really good* one. With the win today, the 2019 Minnesota Twins are 33 games over .500. This is the most games over .500 the team has been since they were 34 games over .500 on... October 1st, 1970.
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted September 3, 2019 Posted September 3, 2019 Okay, this is a *really good* one. With the win today, the 2019 Minnesota Twins are 33 games over .500. This is the most games over .500 the team has been since they were 34 games over .500 on... October 1st, 1970.So, they’ve been better in the past half century?
jkcarew Verified Member Posted September 4, 2019 Posted September 4, 2019 Okay, this is a *really good* one. With the win today, the 2019 Minnesota Twins are 33 games over .500. This is the most games over .500 the team has been since they were 34 games over .500 on... October 1st, 1970.Nice. I think...now at 34 games over...that clears the 1970 season...or I guess it matches that season since that club finished 34 games over. Anyway, if/when the Twins get to 35 games over (or more), the "since" dates will all be in Sept/Oct of 1965. In looking at this, I noticed the 1970 team had a 9-game losing streak...part of a stretch where they lost 13 of 17. Division lead went from 9 on Aug 8th to 3 on Sept. 3. Surprising that that roller-coaster didn't result in a bigger swing similar to what the Twins experienced in July/Aug of this year. The 1970 team fared slightly better than this year's club figures to against teams finishing better than 500. The 1970 club was 40-32 against teams that ended up better than 500. (Current Twins at 27-31...1991 club had a massive 62 wins against teams that finished better than 500.)
ashbury Verified Member Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Last night in the game thread it was mentioned that Daniel Palka was batting .020 for the season. The poor guy went 0-4 last night, dropping his BA to .019. I took a look in Baseball-reference.com, and if this situation remains then he will own the lowest BA of any non-pitcher for a season of 60 PA or more. The current record holder is Lyn Lary, 1930s infielder, with a comparatively lofty .056 average in his final season. Tom Nieto of the Twins achieved .067 in 1988. The 60 PA threshold is of course cherry-picked for Palka's situation. Going just a bit lower, in 2011 Dodgers utility man Eugenio Velez batted a clean .000 in 40 PA. It would only take about 3 hits for Palka to get out of this position, and I'm sure White Sox manager Rick Renteria is trying to give Daniel the opportunity, but man, what an ordeal for anyone with baseball skills to go through. Ahhhhh, Small Sample Size! How you entertain me!
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Last night in the game thread it was mentioned that Daniel Palka was batting .020 for the season. The poor guy went 0-4 last night, dropping his BA to .019. I took a look in Baseball-reference.com, and if this situation remains then he will own the lowest BA of any non-pitcher for a season of 60 PA or more. The current record holder is Lyn Lary, 1930s infielder, with a comparatively lofty .056 average in his final season. Tom Nieto of the Twins achieved .067 in 1988. The 60 PA threshold is of course cherry-picked for Palka's situation. Going just a bit lower, in 2011 Dodgers utility man Eugenio Velez batted a clean .000 in 40 PA. It would only take about 3 hits for Palka to get out of this position, and I'm sure White Sox manager Rick Renteria is trying to give Daniel the opportunity, but man, what an ordeal for anyone with baseball skills to go through. Ahhhhh, Small Sample Size! How you entertain me!Sample size isn’t an issue for Chris Davis. He’s been horrendous for two years over some 800 odd PA. And he’s under contract for THREE. MORE. YEARS.
ashbury Verified Member Posted September 5, 2019 Posted September 5, 2019 Sample size isn’t an issue for Chris Davis. He’s been horrendous for two years over some 800 odd PA. And he’s under contract forTHREE.MORE.YEARS.Now THAT'S some fun with numbers!
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted September 6, 2019 Posted September 6, 2019 Announced attendance at last night's Rays game: 5962.
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