Article: Game Thread: Twins @ Mariners, 5/25 @ 9:10pm CT

[Mike Sixel]

Way too early to use framing stats.

[Aggies7]

Already top 4, a positive for us east coasters

[nicksaviking]

To the immediate right of the black Post Button.

 

And to the left of the lingerie ad.

[Danchat]

 

I don't think the front office gets enough credit for seeing what they had in Romero and jumping him ahead of several other guys who easily could have been called up and it would have been a legitimate decision.

Yeah, I thought Gonsalves would be up before Romero, but clearly after Romero was incredibly good in Spring Training and continued that performance at AAA, they knew he was next up. 

 

It's also pretty crazy that we have Gonsalves, Littell, and Slegers waiting in the wings. That's some solid depth in the rotation that we haven't had since... well, a time before I followed the Twins.

[Riverbrian]

 

I don't think the front office gets enough credit for seeing what they had in Romero and jumping him ahead of several other guys who easily could have been called up and it would have been a legitimate decision.

 

I'm still wondering how he wasn't ranked higher on all of the lists. 

 

He has obvious Top Ten stuff. 

[TwinsCD]

As an umpire, I don't give much credence to pitch framing.  If I see a catcher's glove move back to the plate on a borderline pitch, it confirms to me that it missed.  I'm looking at the ball, not how the catcher 'presents it' to me.

[Mike Sixel]

My real answer to the pet question....I prefer other people have pets.

[Aggies7]

Oh, miguel.

[Mike Sixel]

I'm still wondering how he wasn't ranked higher on all of the lists.

 

He has obvious Top Ten stuff.

Relief pitcher risk is the answer I got when I asked. Great stuff, but risk he needed another pitch.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I'm still wondering how he wasn't ranked higher on all of the lists. 

 

He has obvious Top Ten stuff. 

Injuries. Before 2017, he never pitched more than 90 IP in a season.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Relief pitcher risk is the answer I got when I asked. Great stuff, but risk he needed another pitch.

Also this.

[Winston Smith]

 

Was curious about something, and will probably post this in another thread for those who don't read GT, or at least not tonight, but spent WAY too much time researching a curiosity.

There is a lot more to calling a good game and being a good catcher than a SSS. And a lot more than a SSS for a well pitched game. (Duh!) But for fun I took a look at games played since the start of the season in which the Twins pitched a shutout or a 1 run game. I apologize for not knowing the day Castro went on the DL. And these results also don't fully compliment said catchers true abilities. (Second Duh!). But I found this interesting.

Beginning April 1st, the Twins have played 12 games that were a shutout or a 1 run allowed game. They are 11-1 in those games. Wilson bas caught 2 of those games in his brief time. Castro caught 3 of those games. Garver has caught 7.

Just saying.

Remember no math!

[Riverbrian]

 

Way too early to use framing stats.

 

It's 10PM Central. Not much time left. 

[ashbury]

Wish I knew how to post pics of my babies. Jealous of those who do. Naive or flat out stupid how to do it in a TD post.

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[Blake]

 

Don’t be sassy, you know what I meant.

 

[Mike Sixel]

It's 10PM Central. Not much time left.

Only eight here....

[Platoon]

I don't get it. What's wrong with what they're wearing?

They're not wearing socks.

[Danchat]

 

Also this.

Worst case scenario, we have a really good closer in Romero!

 

And they could seamlessly switch Fernando R. with the other Fernando R...

[Vanimal46]

Only eight here....

8 glasses of wine in by 8 PM? Impressive!

Edited May 26, 2018 by Vanimal46

[DocBauer]

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Thank you and Brian both. Texting on phone and watch on Galaxy Tab. Not seeing the option on my Android phone. May just have to play around.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Worst case scenario, we have a really good closer in Romero!

 

And they could seamlessly switch Fernando R. with the other Fernando R...

Hey, after a rough two weeks, Rodney has been very good.

 

And he was let down by his defense pretty consistently during those bad two weeks. He was also pretty bad himself but the defense cost him at least one game, possibly two.

[Blake]

 

As an umpire, I don't give much credence to pitch framing.  If I see a catcher's glove move back to the plate on a borderline pitch, it confirms to me that it missed.  I'm looking at the ball, not how the catcher 'presents it' to me.

There was an article in which Jason Castro broke down how he went about pitch framing. He said he tried to position his body and glove to give the umpire the best view of the ball he could, along with very careful placement of the glove. 

 

Bottom line: Moving the glove is for amateurs and true "pitch framing" is incredibly subtle.

 

The way Mr. Castro broke it down made a lot of sense. 

[OTPS300]

Happy that Sano missed his third strike by 3 feet, he didn't break what might be his favorite bat.

[Riverbrian]

 

Teams facing one of the best lefties in the game with an AAAA lineup typically don't, I agree. 

 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

As an umpire, I don't give much credence to pitch framing.  If I see a catcher's glove move back to the plate on a borderline pitch, it confirms to me that it missed.  I'm looking at the ball, not how the catcher 'presents it' to me.

That's the thing: if umpires actually realized it was happening, it wouldn't be happening.

 

We have very accurate ball tracking technology. It's more accurate than the umpires. Some catchers, year in and year out, get more strikes called for their pitchers. Others are the opposite.

[DocBauer]

Honest question...brought about by commentary and how natural Romero looks...who actually has the better pure stuff, even in SSS? Is it Romero? Or perhaps a more "relaxed" Berrios who is an intense competitor?

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Shifty McShifterson makes the final put-out of the 4th

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

Sano was just in AAA, no?

[Riverbrian]

 

Worst case scenario, we have a really good closer in Romero!

 

And they could seamlessly switch Fernando R. with the other Fernando R...

 

Kevin Cash would do this in a heartbeat. 

[Nine of twelve]

Ein dinger!