USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 It's basically a given that Buxton will miss 15+ games per year with injury/migraine issues IMO. The way he plays makes it inevitable. They should have upgraded the 4th OF spot with a RH bat that can play center. I've been advocating for Rajai Davis for a while.it didn't have to be a CFer...Kepler can slide over for 10 days. But Grossman/LaMarre is pretty bad.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Feeling that they are not even a contender and it's therefore OK to burn a roster spot on a rule 5 guy is ridiculous.This might be of interest: Rob Antony was asked about Luke Bard yesterday, and Antony said he thought that the Angels as a contending team couldn't afford to waste a roster spot on a Rule 5 guy who wasn't contributing.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 This might be of interest:Rob Antony was asked about Luke Bard yesterday, and Antony said he thought that the Angels as a contending team couldn't afford to waste a roster spot on a Rule 5 guy who wasn't contributing. that's a shot.....
ewen21 Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Grossman is brutal. I look forward to the day where his name is no longer discussed
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Feeling that they are not even a contender and it's therefore OK to burn a roster spot on a rule 5 guy is ridiculous.Yes, if that's why they are carrying him, then indeed it's ridiculous.I don't personally believe that is why they are carrying him. He's 27 years old. My guess is they think he can contribute now, and there is a disconnect between how they feel about him, and how Molitor feels about him.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Yes, if that's why they are carrying him, then indeed it's ridiculous.I don't personally believe that is why they are carrying him. He's 27 years old. My guess is they think he can contribute now, and there is a disconnect between how they feel about him, and how Molitor feels about him.It would seem that Molitor’s feelings more closely align with Kinley’s results.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 It would seem that Molitor’s feelings more closely align with Kinley’s results.His results in a sample size of 3 innings?
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 They are carrying him because they feel he has a chance to be a good to very good starter someday. Nothing to do with this year.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 They are carrying him because they feel he has a chance to be a good to very good starter someday. Nothing to do with this year.Kinley?He's started 3 games of the 197 that he's appeared in over his pro baseball career, and none since 2015.I don't imagine they have any thoughts of him ever starting a game.
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 His results in a sample size of 3 innings?And the 5 ERA he posted in AA last year and the 7.4 in AAA the year before that. There’s a reason the guy was available. He isn’t very good.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Kinley?He's started 3 games of the 197 that he's appeared in over his pro baseball career, and none since 2015.I don't imagine they have any thoughts of him ever starting a game.you are right, and I don't know why I thought that. Also, grand slam
howeda7 Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Author Posted April 24, 2018 Yes, if that's why they are carrying him, then indeed it's ridiculous.I don't personally believe that is why they are carrying him.He's 27 years old. My guess is they think he can contribute now, and there is a disconnect between how they feel about him, and how Molitor feels about him.His ERA is now 21.60. He can't contribute now, and if they think he can, they should be fired immediately.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 I'm not defending the decision, or the player. Just giving the reason behind it. He's 27 years old. They certainly didn't select him so they could hide him for a year then develop him in the minors.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Making the manager side step a Rule 5 on (what should be ) a contending team is tough to defend. With that said... It's a marathon... not a sprint. I'm probably gonna keep typing that for awhile.
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Kinley has to be gone tomorrow, no?
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Kinley has to be gone tomorrow, no?I believe he'll be gone, whether that's through DFA'ing him or DL'ing him. I would guess Duffey gets called up as the bullpen desperately needs reinforcements.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 All true. But, just a few days ago Molitor pulled Berrios after 84 pitches because he needed to find innings for his bullpen. So I'm not sure that carrying Kinley had been much of a hindrance, until now.
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Kinley has to be gone tomorrow, no?You’d think.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 None of us here (on earth?) can see what it is, but they apparently see something in him that they don't want to lose.
Old Twins Cap Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Look folks, the Twins baseball season is souring quickly around pitching, the supposed strength of Falvey. It's April, but the signs are clear. Carrying a Rule 5, just like carrying Moya, ain't good enough when you are getting shelled. And, we are getting shelled.
KirbyDome89 Verified Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 I believe he'll be gone, whether that's through DFA'ing him or DL'ing him. I would guess Duffey gets called up as the bullpen desperately needs reinforcements.Lets hope it's via DFA. This experiment probably shouldn't have been started in the first place, let alone allowed to continue beyond ST.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 I wish a reporter would ask them some tough questions about kinley... Hahahaha
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 None of us here (on earth?) can see what it is, but they apparently see something in him that they don't want to lose.Then make a deal for him so we can send him down. Ugh.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 I wish a reporter would ask them some tough questions about kinley... HahahahaLets see what the new Athletic reporter is made of; it's been a lot of puff to this point but now it's time for questions, in my opinion.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Then make a deal for him so we can send him down. Ugh.Yep, if Odorizzi cost only a low minors shortstop, Kinley shouldn't be worth much more than that, unless they value Kinley more than Odorizzi.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Lets see what the new Athletic reporter is made of; it's been a lot of puff to this point but now it's time for questions, in my opinion.He's all team, all the way. Very dissatisfied, frankly.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Yep, if Odorizzi cost only a low minors shortstop, Kinley shouldn't be worth much more than that, unless they value Kinley more than Odorizzi.Kinley's value is much, much lower than Odorizzi's. He could probably be had with a no-name prospect.Palacios is a solid prospect, but he's a ways off (but now that I look at it, the Rays started him in AA. He's only had 500 PAs between High and Low A though).
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 He's all team, all the way. Very dissatisfied, frankly.me too
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 Kinley's value is much, much lower than Odorizzi's. He could probably be had with a no-name prospect.Palacios is a solid prospect, but he's a ways off (but now that I look at it, the Rays started him in AA. He's only had 500 PAs between High and Low A though).You're right, Palacios is in AA now, and I'm glad to say he's doing better after a horrendous start.
h2oface Old-Timey Member Posted April 24, 2018 Posted April 24, 2018 It's the warmer and controlled weather that is the problem. The heat. This team is melting. I'm getting a headache.
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