Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 A pretty quiet day in Twins Territory today. But there were two games in the system, led by both a dominant - and needed - pitching performance and a walk-off win. Tyler Jay was named Florida State League Pitcher of the Week. This comes on the heels of an 11-strikeout, two-hit outing that spanned eight shutout inningsLet’s get to the action on the field. RED WINGS REPORTRochester 6, Buffalo 2Box Score Jose Berrios hasn’t had the 2016 that many of us - him included - had been expecting. Hopefully his season turned a corner on Monday night. Berrios pitched eight innings, his longest outing of the season. He struck out 11 and only allowed three hits (though two of them were solo home runs to Casey Kotchman), walking only one. Berrios improved to 4-2 in AAA this season. The Red Wings got on the board in the second inning thanks to an Adam Brett Walker sacrifice fly that scored Eddie Rosario, who had singled and stole a base earlier in the inning. Rochester plated two more in the third inning when Jorge Polanco singled in both James Beresford, who singled to start the inning, and Logan Schafer, who doubled. John Ryan Murphy drove in Walker in the fourth inning to expand the lead to 4-0. The Red Wings added two more runs: a Schafer home run in the sixth and an RBI double from Murphy which drove in Wilfredo Tovar, who also doubled, in the seventh. Schafer had three hits on Monday, and now has two home runs in four games for the Wings. Polanco, Tovar and Murphy all had two-hit games. J.T. Chargois closed the game with a perfect ninth inning. His AAA ERA is 0.82. There’s literally no reason that the Twins should not bring him up. The Red Wings have improved to 33-25, expanding their IL North lead to 1.5 games. CHATTANOOGA CHATTERChattanooga 3, Jacksonville 2 (11 innings)Box Score The Lookouts opened the scoring on Monday night thanks to a Daniel Palka…. sacrifice fly. (No home run this time.) It scored Zach Granite, who singled to lead off the bottom half of the 1st inning. Jacksonville tied it in the fourth and jumped ahead 2-1 in the fifth. Ryan Eades, making his return from an oblique injury, gave up just one run in four innings of work. He struck out one and walked two. Raul Fernandez, making his AA debut in the Twins organization, gave up one run in two innings. Then the bullpen took over. Levi Michael doubled and then scored on a Leo Reginatto hit to tie the score in the bottom half of the fifth inning. The game quieted down, helped by the Miralcle trio of Mason Melotakis, Jake Reed (two strikeouts in two innings) and Trevor Hildenberger (four strikeouts, two innings). But it got loud again in the bottom of the 11th inning. Mitch Garver started the inning with a single, Ryan Walker tried to bunt Garver over, but Jacksonville retired the lead runner leaving Walker on first. After a Stuart Turner walk, Michael stepped to the plate and delivered a game-winner. Granite and Reginatto both had three hits. D.J Hicks, Garver and Levi Michael all had two hits. The Lookouts are now 27-30, MIRACLE MATTERSFort Myers vs Daytona Monday night’s game was cancelled due to Tropical Storm Colin. The teams are not scheduled to play each other again in the first half of the season, so the game will not be rescheduled. KERNELS NUGGETSCedar Rapids - DAY OFF TWINS DAILY PLAYERS OF THE DAY Pitcher of the Day – Jose Berrios, RochesterHitter of the Day – Levi Michael, Chattanooga TUESDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS Buffalo at Rochester (6:05PM CST) – LHP Logan Darnell (5-5, 3.58 ERA)JJacksonville at Chattanooga (6:15PM CST) - LHP David Hurlbut (3-3, 4.53 ERA)Cedar Rapids at Beloit (6:35PM CST) – LHP Sam Clay (3-2, 2.13 ERA) Please feel free to ask any questions and discuss Monday’s games. Click here to view the article glunn 1
Rosterman Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Berrios coming off a bad outing with a stellar outing. He will have those. He learns. He hopefully remembers. And he also remembers what major lead travel and meal money is like. Come back once we get rid of the fodder we call a rotation (4-19 - sheesh!). glunn 1
clutterheart Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Zach Granite is quietly recovering from his horrid start and is having himself a nice year. He is looking like a solid prospect. bluechipper 1
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Chargois' sample size is getting a bit bigger. Got to think he gets promoted within the next couple of weeks. DocBauer, SirLoin and gunnarthor 3
benji21 Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 diehardtwinsfan, on 07 Jun 2016 - 05:44 AM, said:Chargois' sample size is getting a bit bigger. Got to think he gets promoted within the next couple of weeks. Well, for Chagois, I think you made a typo. He should definitely get promoted in the next couple seasons. SirLoin, Blake and blindeke 3
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted June 7, 2016 Author Posted June 7, 2016 Well, for Chagois, I think you made a typo. He should definitely get promoted in the next couple seasons.There's no reason not to bring him up. Edit: looks like my fingers never made it as far as my mind and a mod or Seth caught it.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 There's the Jose Berrios we've been waiting for! Let's hope for a red-hot June to press the issue of getting him back into the MLB rotation. As far as Chargois is concerned.... http://cdn.meme.am/instances/55696252.jpg Let's get the show on the road, TR! James, bluechipper and Blake 3
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Chargois will be a better reliever than anyone in our pen.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Chargois will be a better reliever than anyone in our pen. I tend to agree, but given how quickly this team has been pulling people out of AA, I don't mind them giving him a month or two in AAA before making the call. He's on the 40 man. The only real issue is that someone gets optioned or DFAd. In the end, I don't think that is that much of an issue. Wouldn't be surprised if he got the call when Abad gets traded... might be a bit later than we'd like, but that gives him 2-3 full months of major league experience after starting the year in AA. Jham 1
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 J.T. Chargois closed the game with a perfect ninth inning. His AAA ERA is 0.82. There’s literally no reason that the Twins should not bring him up. There are reasons, just no good ones anymore.
benji21 Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 There's no reason not to bring him up.Edit: looks like my fingers never made it as far as my mind and a mod or Seth caught it. haha, I wasn't commenting on your article. The quote function wasn't working on my phone at the time and I was referencing diehardtwinsfan one post above.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) I tend to agree, but given how quickly this team has been pulling people out of AA, I don't mind them giving him a month or two in AAA before making the call. He's on the 40 man. The only real issue is that someone gets optioned or DFAd. In the end, I don't think that is that much of an issue. Wouldn't be surprised if he got the call when Abad gets traded... might be a bit later than we'd like, but that gives him 2-3 full months of major league experience after starting the year in AA.The whole point of our offseason bullpen "strategy" was that we had some top bullpen prospects, and bullpen prospects can be fast risers. If you're not even going to promote the fast riser until perhaps August in a lost season, then what's the point. There's no reason Buddy Boshers needs the next two months of MLB reps more than Chargois (assuming Dean is optioned when Gibson is activated). Even if they really want to go back to 12 pitchers at some point, there aren't 12 pitchers more important to our 2017 plans than JT Chargois. Jepsen could be DFA'd, he really has no place now or in 2017. (Arcia is also a DFA candidate on the offense, given they way they have used him.) Edited June 7, 2016 by spycake alarp33 and rghrbek 2
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Chargois will be a better reliever than anyone in our pen. While we may think that, and it may eventually be true, gotta get through the first months in the big leagues to really find out. I think he'll be very good, as long as he has control and command. He's finally doing that , most of the time, for the first time this year. Eephus 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Wouldn't it make sense to get those nerves out of the way in a lost season? tobi0040, bluechipper, nicksaviking and 2 others 5
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Wouldn't it make sense to get those nerves out of the way in a lost season?They will, Mike. He's thrown 11 innings in AAA. He'll be up. Taildragger8791 1
Loosey Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 The stat I liked most with Berrios was 1 Walk. James, gunnarthor and Seth Stohs 3
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 They will, Mike. He's thrown 11 innings in AAA. He'll be up.I have no doubt about that. But given he throws one inning every three days or so....It will remain a tiny sample all year. So, sample size arguments don't hold a ton of water in this case alarp33 1
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 The stat I liked most with Berrios was 1 Walk.Yeah, that was great. Hopefully he's back in the majors - to stay - soon.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Wouldn't it make sense to get those nerves out of the way in a lost season? It'll happen. It's not IF, it's just WHEN. diehardtwinsfan 1
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 They will, Mike. He's thrown 11 innings in AAA. He'll be up. He has has 44 IP in AA. Close to a full season in the minors. His H/9 in AA and AAA have been 7.1 and 5.6, while striking out 9.9 per 9 last year and 13+ this year.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 He has has 44 IP in AA. Close to a full season in the minors. His H/9 in AA and AAA have been 7.1 and 5.6, while striking out 9.9 per 9 last year and 13+ this year.I'm not arguing against him. I imagine that the Twins will call him up soon. I also imagine that they are working with him on control b/c his stuff seems pretty good.
tobi0040 Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 when Abad gets traded... You are more confident about this than I am. I see a 2 year extension. diehardtwinsfan 1
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 The Twins had a plan when they started Chargois in AA. He did well enough to earn that promotion, and he was likely sent to AAA with a new plan that said something along the lines of 'let's see how he handles AAA for X amount of time." No idea what the X is, but as long as he continues to dominate and shows his coaches that his stuff will translate to the next level, that plan will come to fruition sooner than later. The nice thing is the sample is getting larger. yeah, he's an RP, so it will never be a huge sample, but we are moving into a territory that shows that he's been pretty good in AAA for a month now. He'll be up soon. gunnarthor 1
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Every inning Chargois throws in the minors is one less he throws n the majors. Relief pitchers tend to have short shelf lives. Very few leave the game on their own terms. Mike Sixel, tobi0040, bluechipper and 3 others 6
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Every inning Chargois throws in the minors is one less he throws n the majors. Relief pitchers tend to have short shelf lives. Very few leave the game on their own terms.Preach it.
Jham Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 Every inning Chargois throws in the minors is one less he throws n the majors. Relief pitchers tend to have short shelf lives. Very few leave the game on their own terms. I want to see the science behind that... although I think I get your point if you're just being figurative. I saw Tonkin go up and down and be average to horrible out of the pen. Chargois seems more legit and has risen quickly. Some posters pound the organization for using full seasons of AA and brief stints in AAA before throwing guys into the deep end of the pool. So if we accelerated him through AA and want him to get a good and established grip on AAA, what is the problem? What is the rush? If your premise regarding finite innings is true, it hurts no one to have him in AAA all season. I don't think I'd hastily DFA anyone just to bring him up. Someone will eventually be hurt or traded, and he'll be in line for the call, but to me, I'm not reorganizing my pen and 25 man for Chargois just yet. There's just no need. Eephus 1
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 It'll happen. It's not IF, it's just WHEN.We all know the WHEN.What day is the estimated super 2 cut off this year? He'll be up the next day.
zenser Verified Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 I think they need to see him pitch on back to back even days of the week before they will call him up.
alarp33 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 (edited) Buddy Bosher and Brandon Kintzler are in the Major League bullpen on the 25 man roster and we're worried about finding someone to "hastily DFA" or the effects of "reorganizing my pen" (A pen that has a 4.48ERA ). Oh ya and for reorganizing the 25 man, the team is 16-40 Edited June 7, 2016 by alarp33
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2016 Posted June 7, 2016 We all know the WHEN.What day is the estimated super 2 cut off this year? He'll be up the next day.Actually we are at that point right now, it appears. Pirates just called up Taillon.
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