Article: Ron Gardenhire Out As Twins Manager

[NotTorii]

It means nothing unless they can TR as well.

[nicksaviking]

 

Is the clock on TR now?  How much time does he have left to turn the ship around?

 

 

It's got to be do or die time for Ryan. I believed that TR's and Gardy's fates should have been tied together so there couldn't be any second guessing about which part of the equation was most at fault, but I don't think there's any question that if the replacement can't get the job done, Ryan will need to take the fall.

[Squirrel]

Try again.

Ooops ... I knew it was z ... in the same general area of the keyboard ... sometimes my fingers just type too fast.  (Super fast touch typist ... I forget to read sometimes.)  Mientkiewicz

[Bark's Lounge]

Ooops ... I knew it was z ... in the same general area of the keyboard ... sometimes my fingers just type too fast.  (Super fast touch typist ... I forget to read sometimes.)  Mientkiewicz

I feel like a prick replying to that post. It was meant as fun. The "S" is right above the "Z"... right?

[Kwak]

Sunrises require sunsets to precede them, we should look at Gardenhire's leaving as a sunset. I expect far fewer ejections of the next manager.

[Craig Arko]

Yes to Dougie; no to Ozzie, maybe to Molly.

[ashbury]

If he's the new manager, better learn it now ... Mientkiewicz ... just remember ... you have two 'ie' combinations, and the rest is easy.  

That's the trick I always used to remember Albert Ienstien's name.

[USAFChief]

Dave Martinez would be my preferred candidate.

 

It absolutely has to be from outside the organization. If not, it will be viewed as more of the same....probably because it will be.

[Kirby_waved_at_me]

Even if Terry Ryan is still around, dismissing Gardenhire seemingly will have a domino effect on the kind of players that the Twins will be looking for this off-season. There's no need for a third catcher, the bullpen can remain relatively "small" - it may mean that the Twins make some interesting moves this offseason for position players that would not have been considered otherwise... 

[Brock Beauchamp]

There's no need for a third catcher

I nearly fainted upon this realization.

[drunksam]

Charlie Montoyo. Has managed in the Rays's system and dominated at AAA.

[drjim]

The two coaches that I thought had a noticeable positive impact on the club were Bruno and Molitor - they do not deserve to lose their jobs, but I understand the situation.

 

My gut tells me Molitor gets the gig and Brunansky, Steinbach, and Cuellar return.

 

I would second this. Strikes me as the most likely scenario at the moment.

 

I think Anderson and Ullger are out of the organization and Vavra returns to the minors as a roving instructor.

[cmb0252]

Mike Maddox or Dave Martinez are my preferred targets. Go outside of the organization and get some fresh ideas in here.

[drjim]

What about TR's comments (last winter?) how the team's failures were on him?  This seems like quite a reversal from that.  Maybe in 2014 he felt it was more on the coaches, but I'm not seeing how TR did appreciably better overall in 2014 either.

 

I guess this move, assuming it comes with TR's blessing, is a sign that TR is willing to act differently than he has in the past, which is a good thing but needs a lot more to really turn things around (particularly on the player acquisition and talent identification fronts).

 

Is the clock on TR now?  How much time does he have left to turn the ship around?

 

If they don't turn it around next season Ryan will be gone.

 

Beyond that, I don't know if he does a whole lot different. Signs a starter and an OF and rolls with what he has.

[drjim]

I'm not surprised. I thought it was a sure thing until the recent rumblings that he will stay, but it is the right move.

 

It will be Molitor or an outside candidate, so intriguing names starting to float around.

[DaveW]

If Ryan is going to fire Gardy, he should resign effective immediately.

I for one wanted both of them back, but if Ryan is going to make Gardy the scapegoat, he needs to go as well.

Blow up the whole thing and start over with a new GM, coaching staff and plan. Good riddance.

[gil4]

Kinda sad to see him go, but this probably needed to happen. Thanks for everything, Gardy.

 

On a more serious note, I'm young, have managerial experience, read a book about sabrmetrics, and also took four years of Spanish in high school. I'm pretty qualified for the job, right?

 

Article:  If I Owned the Twins

Sep 24 2014 07:04 PM | SD Buhr in Minnesota Twins

http://twinsdaily.com/_/minnesota-twins-news/minnesota-twins/if-i-owned-the-twins-r3094 

 

When spring training opens, I want at least two Latino members on the bench staff.

I mean it, Terry. And I’m not talking about a couple guys who took Spanish class in junior high. I’m going to send Tony Oliva to talk to whoever you hire and they’d better be able to keep up with him in a conversation.

 

 

 

Junior high, high school, whatever.  It sounds like you're already out.

[Kwak]

Are we certain that these are the only people leaving the team?

[Otto von Ballpark]

FYI: Fox Sports North has the news conference right now.

[gil4]

Yes to Dougie; no to Ozzie, maybe to Molly.

 

Dougie might have had some of the "outside the organization" rub off on him while he was with the Red Sox.  

 

"No to Ozzie" isn't nearly strong enough.  

[Squirrel]

Could someone report back on the presser?  I can't get it here.

 

nm.  Have 1500am streaming.

[Mike Sixel]

First few mins: both TR and Gardy.....it's all about wins, and we didn't win enough. Both are truly classy in their approach, really.

[Squirrel]

First few mins: both TR and Gardy.....it's all about wins, and we didn't win enough. Both are truly classy in their approach, really.

Concur.  Wonder if he accepts a role in the org?  Doesn't sound like it.

[gil4]

Gardy deserved better.

 

I don't see it.  Managers get fired all the time who deserve it less than Gardy.  It wasn't like they handled it in a callous manner (like the Astros did, or like the Braves did with their GM).  Gardy and TR even did the press conference together.  

 

Change is hard, especially in an organization that has had very little of it.  

 

It was time.

[nicksaviking]

Gardy is being a pretty big man about this.  Thanking everyone including the media.  He dropped a line about Berardino calling his wife THIS MORNING to get a quote about the firing and Gardy jokingly gave him a hard time.  I would not have been as amused.

 

Ryan said he has offered Gardy a position elsewhere in the organization.  Gardy has yet to decide.

 

Gardy says he agrees with the decision as the team needs a new face and he wants them to win.

 

I kind of want to cry.  Most clubs wouldn't have the fired manager at the presser, let alone leading the damn thing. 

 

Mark Rosen to Ryan: Do you think your health puts you in position to lead the club and find a manager to get this team back to winning.  Ouch.  To sum it up, Ryan says yes.

 

Listening on the radio, but Ryan has seemed on the verge of breaking down a couple of times.  As a listener, I can tell you it's contageous.

 

Gardy says he isn't done managing yet, he thinks. 

 

Ryan says it will take some time to hire a new manager.  He said it will take time to fly guys in or fly out to meet guys.  Says they can't just consider internal candidates.

 

Ryan was asked if a Latin voice would be something they would be looking for considering the make up of the young talent.  Ryan said diversity would be strongly considered for either a manager or a coach.

Edited September 29, 2014 by nicksaviking

[Willihammer]

Gracious exit by Gardy today at the presser.

 

"Sometimes you just need to hear a new voice"

"I think this is the right move"

"I'm not burned out at all," but "I'm tired right now, but that's just because the season's over."

 

Jim Pohlad and Dave St. Peter asked TR to come back next year, and he will.

[D. Hocking]

Very classy of Gardy to come to the press conference to thank the club house and staff and the people letting him go.

 

Terry sounded choked up when he said Gardy was like a brother.

 

This was probably necessary, but still a bit sad.

[Squirrel]

Very classy of Gardy to come to the press conference to thank the club house and staff and the people letting him go.

 

Terry sounded choked up when he said Gardy was like a brother.

 

This was probably necessary, but still a bit sad.

Yeah, even though I think it's the right decision, it's still a little sad.  But now, it's onward, upward (hopefully) ... c'est la vie.

[Monkeypaws]

Yep - Gardy is a big man - he has my respect.

[Brandon]

Disappointing.  The talent to compete was arriving.  They will be competitive next year.