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I think it depends on if they plan to use him in the playoff rotation or not. Of course that will depend on other injuries. If they do not plan to use him in playoff rotation, unless they would look to use him long relief in playoffs, if they feel he is nearing end of season do to too much use, then why not skip a start or shut him down completely? I am fine with a 6 man rotation to help rest the other guys overall too. However, if you want to use Ober in post season, you should either go 6 man with him or move him to pen now, if the team thinks the drop in production is clearly due to fatigue.
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I would look to bring him back on a 1 to 2 year deal. I believe we have a few young guys that could step up if needed, and overall we have had some good health this year, outside the full missed season of one planned starter, we have not had many stints on IL. However, if those pile up we need as much depth as possible.
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Gavin Williams Has Yet to Pitch Against the Twins
Trov replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
There are still plenty games to be a rival games. Rival games get built in fights for playoff spots late in years or in the playoffs, not games played in April.- 6 replies
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Could Ohtani UCL open the door for the Twins?
Trov commented on Doc Munson's blog entry in Fantasy GM
It will be interesting to see what kind of contract he gets. He may go low years high value to show he can pitch again after a second TJ, or he may take big longer contract. I would look at a contract that pays him as a top DH, but with big incentives for innings pitched built in. Meaning if he can come back to pitch like he has, then he will get paid for that as well, but if he does not, then he will only be the DH he is. The only issue is that if a team is not willing to let him pitch again for some reason, then there may need to be an opt out. Personally, I would only go after him if you think he will pitch again, because right now we have a 15 mil a year DH in Buxton, so will he just ride the pine if we sign a 60 mil a year DH? -
This will be interesting to see how it affects his FA situation. He still will be able to hit, but will he get the mega deal we expected, or will it be shorter term deal, or maybe one with incentives based on innings pitched each season.
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I was going to comment similar. Over the last month he is slashing .375/.474/.656 with OPS of 1.131 those are crazy numbers. He has walked 12 times struck out 10 over that time, hit 5 HR, power has been his big nock, stole 7 bases caught 2 times. Those are numbers over last 28 days. I saw a couple of the HR and they were no doubters not wall scrapers too. Not sure if it is just SSS or something has clicked, but if he can do anything close to what he is doing right now at AAA he should get called up for stretch run and possibly help us in playoffs. Sometimes need to ride hot bats and even if that all this is, why not see what he could do up here.
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The Twins Must Use Byron Buxton in Center Field
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
When Buck is hitting like MVP he can DH, but when he is not, he needs to play in field. There was many debates about DH for ex amount of games or CF for 81 games, making assumptions that he would stay healthy as a DH. I argued that most of his injuries in his history has not been from playing the OF, but from running bases and hitting. Yes, he has had some injuries from playing OF, but as shown again this year, he will get injured just hitting, so taking away what he does best in trying to get him to be just a hitter really is not best for club. Hopefully he can play CF, but unless he can hit at MVP level, he should not be taking DH at bats from guys that are hitting better than he is. Just because he is getting paid like he is, we should not just send him out there to fail for us. I hope he can play CF even as a part time situation. Give him a few games out there to see if he can do it playoff time, because him manning CF at his normal level, and hitting even average will be best for us.- 47 replies
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The Change Driving Max Kepler's Heater
Trov replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I remember early in 2019 it was pointed out the aggressive swinging of the team early in counts. Kepler has been doing that. I have always said if you go up looking for a particular pitch swing no matter the count. What I have liked about Kepler right now is he is willing to drive outside pitches to LC gap, where he used take those pitches more often looking for the inside pitch. -
Will the Twins Have Two Top-5 National Prospects by 2025?
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Keep in mind 3 of the guys drafted ahead of Jenkins are college guys, of which they all will likely lose their prospect status before Jenkins even makes Majors, unless Jenkins just goes ham next year. Skene was mentioned if needed could have just went right to majors, only reason he will be held back is that Pirates may want to control him longer. That is the thing with rankings too is as guys fall off others move up, and sometimes the top whatever are a lot weaker top whatever because the top say 5 to 10 all moved off the list, so a guy that was say top 20 now may be a top 10 but did nothing to move up other than no get worse.- 20 replies
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It is not about rather playing bad veterans over take a chance on young players, but roster moves have a ripple affect. Lets say early in year we cut Gallo, Farmer, Polanco, a number of pen pitchers that are vets. If the young guys produce great, if they do not, who do we have to turn to? Even worse, what happens when they get hurt, as many players need even 10 days on IL from time to time. If we cut all our vets, understanding we cannot send them to minors, then we are forced to bring up even younger guys, most likely not ready to play. You have to sometimes think more than one move ahead, and have backup plans. Everyone wondered why we brought in MAT in off season, and assumed he would be 4th outfielder. However, FO knew Buck was less likely to play CF. If Buck could great, but we needed a backup plan because they did not believe Celistino was the option. The fact that we have so many guys pushing the MLB roster is a good thing, and a sign of depth we have. We did send Julien and Wallner down initially, but now they have forced they way back into lineup. However, where would we be if we would have sent vets packing and either get hurt?
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To compare Neto to Lee situation is not a fare way to compare. This FO is more than willing to bring up guys under 24, if the player shows they can be better than what we got, or injuries force the hand. AK started a playoff game at age 22, then started regular season age 23. Royce Lewis called up at 23, and if he did not miss the full season prior, most likely would have been called up at age 22. Jose Miranda called up at 23, turned 24 later that season. Gilberto Celestino, due to need, was called up at 22. Simeon Wood Richardson got his first start last September at age 21, and many thought he would contribute this year, then regressed and one terrible start this year at MLB level and bad start to season in AAA. He is doing better now, but to say the FO never calls up guys until 24 or older just is not supported by data. Outside of Neto and Lee, everyone else from last year draft are below AAA. Neto is not lighting world on fire in Majors, but he is best LA has at SS right now. He is playing well for a 22 year old, just a few days older than Lee, but Angels really have no other choices, but the Twins have other choices to play infield above Lee. We have CC, Lewis, Julien, Polanco all as guys that can play. I would bet if Lee showed he was by far the best player to play out of them, they would give him a chance. Each team has their own situation, and sometimes a player gets pushed faster because the team has no other options. Sometimes injuries force hands one way or another.
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They have a ton of kids at that level they give time to play, so a lot of days off from games, but they are still working in the complex daily. Really, I think most in organizations feel the work off the field will tell them more than the time on the field most of the time. Some guys on defense will not get a ball hit to them all game, teaches you little about how they play on defense. Hitting, they may nothing but fastballs by a pitcher early in counts and swing at them, teaches you nothing about how they handle breaking pitches. Just because they are not in games does not mean they are taking the day off at the complex. Once they get to higher levels things get different.
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I doubt Lee will get a call, unless he is just lighting up the next couple of weeks. The reason, is he still has 2 more years before he NEEDS to be added to 40 man. Meaning unless he is going to make team out of spring next year, and he very well may, they can wait to add him to 40 man and save spots for guys that could be rule 5 eligible. Martin and Severino will both have to be added next year I believe, so less of issue adding them now. Chris Williams also would need to be added, but I am not sure team is sold on him as a future guy, I could be wrong. Stevenson I see no point on bringing him up. Kirsey would need to be added to 40 man or risk losing in rule 5, but I doubt they are too worried about losing a 26 year old guy that has not made MLB debut yet. Could he help sure, but he still ranks below many others on roster. I do agree adding a guy for playoff run can be helpful even if just to steal some bases, that is why I would push for Martin when looking at everything else.
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No, we do not need to send him out there. His bat has been good to great, but that in part could be because he is getting rest. When you march him out to play every game at either catcher or first, this could have bad affect down the road. We have others that can fill the roll until AK returns.
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Happy to see Martin staying hot. Over his last 28 days, he is hitting at elite level, with an OPS 994 with walking about as much as striking out. He may not have the power the Twins seek normally, but I could see him playing CF next year leading off, getting on base and stealing bases. I do not know how he ranks in CF, but if Buck cannot do it, I would rather see Martin hitting over either Taylor or Celistino, unless Martin is just terrible out there. I know his arm is not super strong but if he can make the catches that will be more important.
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Is the Keuchel pen suggestion a joke? He will get another start or two, and maybe he shows he can help us seal up the division but no way do I want him on the post season roster. Other than being left handed, he has nothing going for him. He walks too many, strikes out no one. Sure, we could get lucky if he came in with runners on for a double play, but he has 0 k's in 36 batters faced so far this year. Yes, he did well overall in 32 innings in the minors, but so far against MLB hitters he still looks cooked to me.
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Where Do the Twins Fit All of the Youth
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I know the second paragraph is a bit of a joke, pointing out they where traded, in part due to all our depth. However, to answer the question, if we still had them, Steer and CES would still be in minors and Urshela would be here instead of farmer or castro most likely. Arraez would be playing 1B instead of Salano most likely. CES would be about 5th on the 3rd base depth chart. He would be crushing in AAA but just as he has done in Reds he would be struggling so we would have sent him down. CES in SSS is putting up worse numbers than Gallo.- 76 replies
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Where Do the Twins Fit All of the Youth
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think you need to read up on how the 40 man roster works. With neither Prato or Severino on the 40 man roster, both would need to be put on the 40 man roster to be able to be called up in September. This would mean either putting 2 people on the 60 day or DFA 2 guys. I could see Gallo getting DFA, but unlikely anyone else. In addition, if Gallo does get DFA it is unlikely for either of those guys. As for next year, maybe they get added, when other moves get done, but highly unlikely they get added this year.- 76 replies
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The Case for Moving Brooks Lee to First Base (For Now)
Trov replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If AK cannot return to form, and Lee gets hot quickly, then the move makes some sense, but that is a lot of ifs. However, Lee will needed to be added to 40 man roster in next two weeks, or someone will have to get injured in September and cannot return is my understanding of the rules. The Twins will only add Lee to 40 man if they know for sure they will call him up, because they will not want to DFA someone just for the chance Lee will contribute. That means he has 2 weeks to show he would contribute and then I could see a Lee for Gallo swap, but keep in mind some other guys may be coming off 60 man IL soon, which will complicate the 40 man roster situation. -
This was the same debate we had with Polanco at SS years ago. Do we deal with subpar defense for better offense? For this year, I would say overall yes, because we do not have a clear better option, but long term no because we should have better options on defense with similar offense profile. 2nd should be filled by Lee or Lewis with the other playing 3rd for years to come, or until CC needs to move to 3rd, but either way 2nd should be filled by one of them. Julien should be moved off 2nd, or we should look to shop him like we did Arraez. I know people went crazy for Julien after his crazy hot stretch, but if you go outside his crazy hot stretch in July he has been just slightly above average, and in August he has been well below average at the plate. Clearly adjustments against him has been made, and he needs to adjust. I never go head over heals for rookies that have a hot stretch SSS. I am not saying he will not be a good hitter, he has all the makings of it, but there are many a hitter we over value in rookie years. I do hope umps stop ringing him up on balls clearly outside the zone. Many strike outs are on called strike 3 when they are well outside the box on the broadcast. Many times on pitches way inside or outside. Maybe getting the robo umps or challenges next year will help that.
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Sonny Gray and the Pursuit of a Cy Young
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I know wins are not something to care too much about, but I still think voters look at it a little bit. Cole or Eovaldi will get the Cy young, barring a huge drop off by both. Cole has better numbers as well, he has more games pitched, strike outs, and lower ERA. Eovaldi is best pitcher on one of best teams, voters care about that too. Sonny should be talked about, but he started off super hot, then leveled off a bit and no run support and bad pen outings cost him some. If he ends as hot as he started he will get votes, but Lopez is recently been the top guy in our rotation.- 23 replies
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Ranking Twins Players Age 25 and Under: Part 1 (6-10)
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
SWR has been pitching much better over last month or so. His walks are still up but he is limiting the damage overall. I am hopeful whatever led to his early struggles this year is going away and he can be someone we can count on next year when needed.- 37 replies
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Ranking Twins Players Age 25 and Under: Part 1 (6-10)
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Not sure if TD editors or the authors do the links to baseball reference pages, but the Austin Martin link is not to the Twins Austin Martin. The link on this page takes you to an Austin Martin a relief pitcher pitching for Goshin College in Indiana. That particular Austin Martin did not have a good season pitching either.- 37 replies
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For all we know they have behind the scenes and he was been terrible? People underestimate how valuable a good first baseman can be, and how a bad one can cost a ton of runs. I agree with the idea, but it is possible they have given him reps there in practice and he has been terrible. I think in the off-season they need to make him learn the position more, because we have too many good hitting and much better defending infielders ready to push him.
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The Joey Gallo Experiment Should Be Over
Trov replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I do not understand how baseball has changed so much when it comes to players like him and Kyle Schwarber continue to get paid and play as much as they do. I get it that HR have huge value in the game, and so when you can do it, we do not care how much they hit nothing but HR. Personally, I find their style of hitting boring and not worth watching. I hate just watching either HR or strike out for most part. I believe MLB is trying to get more entertainment and action back into the game, and players like them will be looked down on again. We used to think if you hit under .200 it did not matter how much power you had, because you were not helping the team win. Now, as long as you OPS is high enough we do not care if you strike out 50% of time because your overall "value" is there. I used to get annoyed when Mauer would take a walk with runner on third and less than 2 outs when he would let a strike go right down the middle, then we would not score in the inning. I would take that now over watching the amount of strikeouts Gallo throws up.- 58 replies
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