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7 Triple-A Players Who Can Still Help the 2023 Twins
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Prato and Funderburk not being on 40 man is an issue for them to help. There are a couple of people that could get put on 60 day, but we have others nearing read to come off the 60 day which complicates things. Prato has a SSS power surge. Outside of his 45 games in AAA he has never hit at the level he has shown there. He has always been good walk to k rate, and can play many positions so that is helpful. I could see him come in if there is a major injury, but absent that I do not see it happening. Funderburk is less likely unless there are some big injures in the pen as well.- 49 replies
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Twins Young Position Players Deserve Your Attention
Trov replied to Cody Schoenmann's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
We have some young guys that hopefully will continue to perform for years to come. I do always have caution because sometimes the rookie year is the best because pitchers adjust and the player does not. For the top prospect guys you expect the adjustments, but does not always happen.- 38 replies
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The Twins Won’t Exercise Max Kepler’s Option…Will They?
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The question is, can they do better with someone else for a price they are willing to pay? My guess they are almost done with Larnach as a viable MLB option, and will be looking to shop him, but may roll with him. Wallner is clearly looking like a guy that will get a corner spot. Now, part of it may come down to how many of our many infield guys learn to play more OF. Right now going into next year we have more expected MLB level starting infielders than places to play them. Lewis, Lee, Julien, AK, CC, and Polanco. If Buck needs to play DH next year too, then we have 2 guys that need to find at bats elsewhere. There is also others on our roster that can take up at bats in OF. So despite his recent hot streak, I think they will move on from Kepler, but you never know. -
Jenkins is super hyped, even more than Lee was last year. I know he is high school kid, so I wonder how aggressive the FO will be with him. The FO has shown willingness to move guys quickly. I wonder if they move him out of the developmental league if he keeps raking there and move to low A by season end. My guess he starts low A next year with a quick jump to high A if he shows he can hit low A. I am not expecting him to make a super climb, and not overblowing his three games, but hype on him around the league is high, I just hope everyone is right. I am fully expecting a few on here to call for him to get called up for Gallo soon haha
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Gallo should have no spot on this roster. Sure once in a very great while he hits a HR. But overall he has negative value and there has to be someone out there that can at least do something of value. The fact that he strikes out nearly half the time, and you cannot count on him doing anything when he does put the ball in play other than a possible HR. We have pinch hit for him in 1 run games with runner on 3rd and less than 2 outs because we know he is likely to strike out and almost never likely to hit a single.
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If it is waiver claim, then you go reverse win percentage on who gets priority on claim, there is no more revokable waivers like before where you can work out a trade, this is straight up release. Meaning if no one claims him, then he is FA to sign with whoever, or we can put in a claim and assuming no one with a worse record did then we get him.
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Twins should act quickly and sign Trey Mancini and dfa Joey Gallo.
Trov commented on tarheeltwinsfan's blog entry in Blog tarheeltwinsfan
I am all for letting Gallo go. He started off hot and it was looking like maybe he would be a huge steal, but he has cooled off a ton and now pretty worthless. His defense is not elite anymore either. I think when our injured guys come back, Gallo gets the DFA. -
The links for Austin Martin always seem to be wrong links. His name is too common a baseball name it would seem.
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He does need to develop a third pitch, but I also believe he needs to move the fastball around more. He too often relies on throwing it high in the zone, and throws the split down in the zone. The problem is that if every fast ball is up, and every off speed is down, then he is telling the hitter what is coming simply by location. They see a pitch up, they know it is fastball and a pitch down is off-speed. Maybe trying to mix in fastballs down at the knees will lead to more guys chasing the off-speed, because they are taking called strikes at knees.
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Are the Front Office's Jobs Secure?
Trov replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
A couple of things. One, the FO does not play the games, they put together a roster, and farm system in hopes they players produce. Yes, they have made some bad moves and trades, just like every FO does. They have also made some very good trades and moves. The fact that all our right handed hitters cannot hit lefties this year is not the FO fault. The fact that Buxton's knees will not allow him to play outfield is not their fault, and they brought in a good defender to deal with that, so we did not rely on Celestino or Gordon as starting CF. Yes, we signed Gallo for 11 mil and passed on Bellinger, assuming we could have got him near what Cubs paid, but there is no guarantee Bellinger does with us what he did with Cubs. Two, the holes that were talked about coming into the season, the righter says were not addressed, but the main hole people talked about was starting pitching, and pitching generally, but yet we have one of the best pitching staffs in the league overall. People were concerned about lack of right handed hitting OF, because of our terrible hitting against lefties, but even our right handed hitting players are not hitting lefties. The writer is upset we did not make moves at the deadline, but moves cost prospects. We could have brought in some rentals, but what would they have cost? If we would have traded away Lewis, Lee, E-Rod, and others at the deadline for a couple of rentals, my guess the writer would be tearing that move.- 79 replies
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Twins Minor League Hitter of the Month: July 2023
Trov replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
Severino numbers are very close to CES numbers at nearly same age and level. CES struck out a little less but ratio has been about the same. Similar power levels too. What is funny is CES was a college guy that started hitting HR, Severino did not start hitting HR until age 22 season. If Severino was drafted out of college same year as CES we would be singing Severino praises like may have for CES. They both have huge issues with their game, like bad defense and a lot of swing and miss, but people fell in love with CES power. CES is struggling at MLB level so far, and I think some expect him and possibly Severino to be the dreaded AAAA player. Unless Severino can drop the K's he will be a fringe MLB player.- 19 replies
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Twins Top Prospect Brooks Lee Promoted to Triple-A
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
There is also the possibilities of trades for areas of need as well. Martin has shown ability to play OF, and Lewis could do it too if needed, despite the freak injury he got. -
I am hoping this is just a painful learning experience for Ryan. He is serving up meatballs left and right. Yesterday it was also with plenty of runners on for a couple. The issue is he is not missing as many bats as he did early in year. He is clearly missing in the zone, and the ones just on the edge hitters are either fouling off or staying off getting the ball called. Joe really needs to develop a good secondary pitch. Early in the year they were working, but the league has adjusted, he needs to adjust again. I still have faith in Joe, but right now hitters are just teeing off on the fast ball in all counts. They have no respect for any off-speed pitch, and Joe is not locating his fastball down. The problem is his go to is fastball up, which has worked, but since his fastball down is not locating at the knees, if the pitch starts low, the hitter assumes it is a breaking ball and adjusts. Until he can mix up the location, and do it well, with the fastball he will continue to struggle.
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3 Reasons Why the Twins Stood Pat at the Trade Deadline
Trov replied to Matthew Taylor's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Without knowing what the trade discussions were, it is hard to really say if the FO did the right thing or not. I feel like the roster is at a bit of a crossroads. Our vets have not been hitting like we need, and the young guys have shown flashes, but the team is not always willing to count on them. Also, the young guys have had some injuries putting us in the, what will they be when they return. For the fans that wanted a huge splash it was going to cost big prospects, and I feel the FO did not want to give up any big names, hoping those names, at least on the offense will be up helping the team in the next year or two. Larnach was being floated, and will most likely again in the off-season, but he has very little trade value in my opinion. The likes of Lewis, Lee, and E-Rod were really the only names that were going to net a big return. When you need to build a team for not just 1 year but years to come, it is hard to justify giving up on those guys for a 1 or 2 year rental that could or could not push us over the top. I think mainly is we should make the playoffs with no one else trying in our division, and actively selling. As long as you make the playoffs you have a chance. Then the question is, was there a trade out there that would make us feel that much better about winning in playoffs? Most likely not, unless Buck and company start hitting better. Our team is far from a top competitor, but sometimes it just takes the team being hot and having guys have great runs. We have the potential pitching to keep us in games, if we can get some timely hitting we could have a chance to win in the playoffs. I am not expecting it, but if our pitching is hot, we just need a few timely hits.- 70 replies
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Should the Twins Trade Sonny Gray or Kenta Maeda?
Trov replied to Adam Friedman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
As I always say, if the deal is good enough then do it. I would be willing to part with either if the return is worth it. I am not saying we should sell, but we could handle losing one of our starters right now. Who would have thought this would be the case coming into the year? But, the deal needs to make sense, preferring to get back younger pitching that should be ready in a year or two, and not just more bats. We have plenty of possible bats right now, but pitching prospects have been light lately, mainly due to injuries. I do not what is offered out there, but I would also look to deal them to NL team than an AL competitor right now. Nothing would be worse than if we make the playoffs and lose a game to a guy we traded away. -
3 Trades the Twins Must Make Today
Trov replied to Jamie Cameron's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I wish the writer would have suggested who we would need to give up to make those deals. I am not willing to gut our whole farm system to get a few rental guys to maybe push us a little bit better. We have a core that should be good, for whatever reason we have had issues putting it all together. But giving up any depth and the long term future when we still will not be favored to win anything will be a bad move in my opinion. -
No. He is not on 40 man, he is 29 years old, and has only had short runs of success at MLB over his career. He appears to be the AAAA player, good for AAA but below average for MLB. Why would we DFA someone, keeping in mind we need to bring Gordon of the 60 day DL, for a guy that that will not be on team after season. He would be added to our many left handed hitting OF. He was brought in as AAA depth that is about it. I wonder why he chose Twins organization being he is like 7th on left handed hitting outfield depth.
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Planning Minnesota's Perfect 2023 Trade Deadline
Trov replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Of course if you can add better pen arms that is always a possible upgrade, but our farm system is thinning out, and unless current MLB rostered players are included in trades some will be DFA/released for anyone you bring in. I would not get mad at another high leverage guy, preferred left handed, to throw out there in late innings, but pen is not our biggest issue. Hitting left handed pitching is biggest issue, but is it as big of an issue we may think? Looking at the other likely playoff matchups only 2 teams, Boston and Yankees, currently have more than 1 left handed starter that would likely start in playoffs. Every other team has 1 or 0 left handed starters that fall into top 4 starters really. Of course some teams may make a change if they face Twins. My point is, do we make a trade for a guy to simply play 1 game in the playoffs, or pinch hit a few times, because they are slightly better against lefties? Keeping in mind it is hard for many to just play part time against lefties and sit rest of time. I am not saying we should pass on possible upgrades, but do not overpay for what you are hoping is like at most 10 at bats per round of playoffs. Yes, if those at bats would be the difference makers then it would make sense, but for all we know they would have little impact. Keep in mind Lewis should be coming back, and CC is heating up. They could make the difference as well.- 53 replies
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Personally, I do not see why the kid would not sign at slot or just above slot based on a little extra left in pool. His options would be play junior/community college ball for a year and re-enter, or go to 4 year college and wait 3 years. So much can happen in that time. At best he jumps 4 spots and adds a couple mil in the future, at worst he falls several slots and loses much more than he could earn. I am not surprised Boras waited to last min because then he knew how much money the Twins had to work with and playing chicken.
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Should the Twins Shop a Young Corner Bat?
Trov replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
The problem with looking to trade either Wallner or Larnach is that neither have much trade value. Left handed corner OF are a dime a dozen. Larnach does have some defense to go with his possible bat, but Wallner is bat only. Neither have shown elite skills so far at MLB level. Both have shown flashes that teams may be willing to take flier on them, but best we get in return is a pen guy or mid-level rental guy most likely. I do not see either headlining a deal that pushes us over the top.- 54 replies
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Considering a Trade for Ryan Mountcastle
Trov replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I get the thought, but you are making way too many assumptions. First, you assume his difference output versus expected output based on batted ball numbers is mostly based on the LF in Baltimore. The problem with that assumption is even if you look at his last 2 year splits, his numbers are still better in Baltimore than on road. Without more data to show that he has hit many balls that would have been HR in most other ball parks that were outs in Baltimore, it just is assuming that was the case. It is possible there are many other factors that have led to that difference, like great catches, wind knocking down fly balls. Overall, no I am not willing to give up prospects for a part time hitter that may surge in a new place. -
What Good Does Selling Do?
Trov replied to Greggory Masterson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I am not a fan of half-selling, meaning you only are trading away lower value trade chips. It normally results in lower value returns. For the most part, the players listed in the selling were players on lower value, outside Berrios. Jury still out on SWR and Martin, but their stock is falling fast. However, the rest of the trades are pretty equal or tip in favor of Twins. Ryan and Duran are great, and what we gave up for them were minimal at the time. Selling can bring in big talent, or at minimum supplement what you need. Rarely will a pen guy bring in big returns, but a lottery ticket of a young kid that may develop. Position guys or starter tend to bring in bigger prospects, but there are misses. I see no point in "selling" this year. I could see, if you are sold we can fill the last spot in rotation with some in AAA, trading Gray for the right deal. He is doing well, unlikely to sign with Twins, basing this on some of his comments about how they run things. Being we only need 4 guys in playoffs, if you are sold that the 4 we would most likely have, assuming health, and a good deal is offered, why not pull off what Cleveland has done.- 13 replies
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Rumor: Andrew McCutchen May Not Be On Trade Market
Trov replied to Brock Beauchamp's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
I follow the Pirates, because my wife is a huge fan growing up in western PA. Cutch never wanted to be traded from Pittsburgh the first time. Every fan loved when he returned, he was their Puckett of that generation of fans. The fans loved him, he loved the city and the fans. Trading him away a second time would be like a big middle finger to him and the fan base, even if they are in last place. The fans hated he got traded the first time too, even if they got some current players. If they trade Cutch, unless he asks for it, the team will lose any little bit of respect the fans have for the team, or the players have for the team. -
Really it is the Hardy to Baltimore that was the worst trade, not the Hardy for Gomez. You group 2 trades in as the worst trade, but if you look at the trade of Gomez and Hardy it was not a bad trade. The follow of up sending Hardy away because Twins thought they had a SS coming from Japan was the terrible trade. If we kept Hardy and he produced what he did with Baltimore with Twins we would not say it was a bad trade.
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