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  • The Minnesota Twins Need to Be More Decisive With the Injured List


    Matthew Taylor

    On Tuesday afternoon, the Minnesota Twins added Byron Buxton to the 10-day injured list, five days after taking a pitch to the ribs last Thursday. This represents the latest case of a frustrating trend from the Twins.

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    After Byron Buxton was struck with a fastball in the ribs on Thursday night against the Cleveland Guardians, the Minnesota Twins were left with two options: put Buxton on the injured list right away or wait and see how he responds. The Twins opted to go with the latter and waited to see how his ribs would respond. In fact, the Twins waited the entire weekend before making a decision, leaving them with a short bench the entire weekend series against Cleveland and putting them in a spot on Friday night where they only had one bench player.

    In Major League Baseball when a player is injured, a team has a three day window to retroactively place someone on the injured list and still get “credit” for those days serving towards the 10 days that a player must wait before returning from injury. As such, it can be common for teams to wait and see if a player can return within three days before making the decision of whether or not to add them to the injured list. 

    While this is likely what the Twins were trying to do by holding off on the injured list decision for Buxton, it was unequivocally the wrong decision and one that may have ultimately cost the Twins this past weekend.

    The first reason why the Twins misplayed this injury situation over the weekend was that Carlos Correa was also injured for the Twins with his flared up foot. As such, a “wait and see” decision with both Correa and Buxton meant that the Twins would be operating with two men down on their bench all weekend. The Twins could have waited on one of the two players and sent the other to the IL, but by waiting on both, they actively chose to play the weekend series against their division rival with one hand tied behind their back.

    Secondly, Byron Buxton had been in a massive slump leading into the rib injury. Over his past 10 games played, Buxton is hitting .147 with one extra base hit and 12 strikeouts compared to just three walks. The Minnesota Twins were choosing to lessen their depth over the weekend series so that they could potentially cut the number of games missed for a player who hasn’t been hitting the ball well at all lately. A big-time risk for a low payoff.

    Additionally, the ribs are not the only issue that had been ailing Buxton. Over the course of the season, Buxton has been having issues with his knee pain. In fact, it’s been because of his knee pain that the Twins have seemingly been limiting Buxton to a designated hitter role this season. With Buxton being experiencing so much pain in his ribs that he wasn’t even able to lie down, in addition to the knee pain that he had been experiencing all year, an injured list decision seemed like a no-brainer the whole time.

    The decision was made even worse by the fact that the Minnesota Twins had the reigning AAA hitter of the week available to be called up in Matt Wallner. Wallner currently has a 1.100 OPS with the Saint Paul Saints this season and has a .414 batting average since being demoted last week with two of the three starting pitchers coming up set to be right handers.

    The Minnesota Twins scored a total of four runs after they decided to leave Buxton and Correa up with the team and play with a short bench. It’s certainly fair to wonder if the weekend series would have wound up any different had the Twins been operating with a full roster.

    In summary, the Twins decided to play short handed all weekend against a division rival so that they could potentially save a few days off of an injured list stint for a struggling Byron Buxton with ailing knees rather than just calling up Matt Wallner who has been hitting the snot out of the ball. A troubling decision to say the least.

    This isn’t an isolated incident with the Twins this season either. Earlier this season the Minnesota Twins did something similar with Joey Gallo when he had an injured hamstring. With the amount of talent that the Minnesota Twins have in the Minor Leagues the Twins should not hesitate to move players to the injured list and give their struggling offense every bit of a chance to succeed. The Twins are struggling enough at the plate with a full roster that playing with a limited roster just leaves this team with no chance on offense.

    Do you agree that the Twins need to be more decisive with injured list decisions? Leave a comment below and start the conversation!

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    My biggest complaint with this FO is that they're just "slow" with everything in season (I don't mind the slow playing in the offseason so much). They built all this depth to better handle injuries, but then they never want to use it unless they absolutely have to. Of course ILing a guy for 10 days when he only needs 5 isn't ideal, but playing with a 1 man bench for 5 days is less ideal. If they had no options for callups it'd be one thing, but they do.

    I'm a believer in the idea that you take the first 3rd of the season to figure out what you have that year. The middle 3rd working to fix holes. And the last 3rd going all out to win you division, and get optimal playoff positioning. So I'm good with mixing and matching lineups early. Good with giving the Keplers of the world a little rope to get right. But after the 1/3rd mark of the season it's got to be about performance. The players have let you know who they are. Kepler isn't good enough. Correa needs to go down in the lineup. IL decisions need to be made quicker to get your team a full roster for every game. Real changes in team management need to be made to optimize your team for this season. We're into the 2nd 3rd of the season, and nothing seems to be changing. 

    As for just the IL stuff, I can't help but wonder if the FO really isn't just truly listening to the medical staff. They have their all-world trainer now, but they're managing things the same way as they were under the guy they fired. Does Paparesta really work nearly the exact same way as the last guy, or is the FO just doing what they want?

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    1 hour ago, FlyingFinn said:

    Also, let players on the IL completely heal before bringing them back, especially with the more than adequate hitters we have in St. Paul. Again, let Kepler heal until Wallner's hot streak ended for a couple games would have been a good idea.

    besides Wallner, who are the adequate hitters in St. Paul? the highest OPS players are Larnach, Lewis, Farmer, AK, Wallner, Julien and Hlman.

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    2 hours ago, CRF said:

    This FO has always done this for some reason. They need to make any Il decision much faster. 

    Play fairy tale baseball for a couple seasons and it becomes very evident this is standard practice for most MLB teams. 

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    2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

    My biggest complaint with this FO is that they're just "slow" with everything in season (I don't mind the slow playing in the offseason so much). They built all this depth to better handle injuries, but then they never want to use it unless they absolutely have to. Of course ILing a guy for 10 days when he only needs 5 isn't ideal, but playing with a 1 man bench for 5 days is less ideal. If they had no options for callups it'd be one thing, but they do.

    I'm a believer in the idea that you take the first 3rd of the season to figure out what you have that year. The middle 3rd working to fix holes. And the last 3rd going all out to win you division, and get optimal playoff positioning. So I'm good with mixing and matching lineups early. Good with giving the Keplers of the world a little rope to get right. But after the 1/3rd mark of the season it's got to be about performance. The players have let you know who they are. Kepler isn't good enough. Correa needs to go down in the lineup. IL decisions need to be made quicker to get your team a full roster for every game. Real changes in team management need to be made to optimize your team for this season. We're into the 2nd 3rd of the season, and nothing seems to be changing. 

    As for just the IL stuff, I can't help but wonder if the FO really isn't just truly listening to the medical staff. They have their all-world trainer now, but they're managing things the same way as they were under the guy they fired. Does Paparesta really work nearly the exact same way as the last guy, or is the FO just doing what they want?

    Somewhat unrelated to this specific post, but it is strange that they fired previous trainer due to all the injuries suffered, and with the new guy we are having an inordinate amount of hamstring issues.  What is that about?

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    2 hours ago, TwinsDr2021 said:

    besides Wallner, who are the adequate hitters in St. Paul? the highest OPS players are Larnach, Lewis, Farmer, AK, Wallner, Julien and Hlman.

    Wallner and Julien for now. Later I think Miranda will be ready. He's got 5 multi-hit games in his last 8. Just needs to add that home run power back now. We aren't replacing everyone right away anyway. Wallner and Julien are NOT going to reduce our SO's. I'm just thinking they will do better everywhere else. Can hardly do worse than the current Twins hitting.

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    1 minute ago, FlyingFinn said:

    Wallner and Julien for now. Later I think Miranda will be ready. He's got 5 multi-hit games in his last 8. Just needs to add that home run power back now. We aren't replacing everyone right away anyway. Wallner and Julien are NOT going to reduce our SO's. I'm just thinking they will do better everywhere else. Can hardly do worse than the current Twins hitting.

    Where does Julien play, and who sits when he does?

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    19 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

    Where does Julien play, and who sits when he does?

    Polanco may be going on the IL for the third time (or so it sounded from the radio announcers today), so 2nd base. Otherwise, DH with Buxton on the IL. And I'm an advocate for getting Buxton healthy and playing CF, leaving DH open for a bat like Julien.

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    12 hours ago, Old Crow said:

    If the Twins ever hope to get their money's worth out of Buxton's contract they need to put him back in center field on a daily basis which would free up the DH position for someone who can consistently square up the ball.  

    and just who would that be?

     

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    17 hours ago, John Belinski said:

    Wallner should be on the team. Either Rocco or front office should be replaced. They called up Larnach who is 0-12 since being called up. 

    Larnach wasn't called up, he was activated from the IL.

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    I was sleeping in med school but in my head... I certainly could imagine the need to see how an injury responds to rest or a band-aid or something. 

    Med Person: How are the Ribs this morning Mr. Buxton? 

    Buxton: The Rub is a little dry. I definitely prefer the Carolina Sauce. 

    Med Person: Still pretty swollen. Let's take a look again in the morning. In the meantime... lots of Chicken Noodle Soup and 7UP. 

     

    I can certainly understand taking a little time before making a move but at some point, you have to look at things and ask yourself... what are you waiting for. 

    There are times when injuries hurt a team and there are times when injuries make you BETTER. There are times when getting another player up and giving them at-bats provides immediate help or at worst necessary information toward future solutions. 

    Placing the player who Correa is SUPPOSED TO BE on the DL hurts a team.

    However, Placing the player that Correa HAS ACTUALLY BEEN THIS SEASON on the DL could make your team better.

    I get the short bench argument and agree it isn't ideal because after all, Garlick was starting against a right hander last Sunday. Don't get me wrong... I don't mind Garlick playing against a right hander personally but I know it bugs the **** out of Rocco because he would never do that if everyone was available to him. 

    However... To me the bigger issue is the wasting of the opportunity to find someone better.

    WE NEED SOMEONE TO BE BETTER!

    Sometime injuries make you better. Let's not waste the opportunity.   

     

     

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    This whole situation is indicative of what major league sports has become.   It used to be that managers and coaches led the teams, and together with management, made decisions solely based upon what was best for the teams.  Tom Kelly and Bud Grant are examples of old school managers and coaches. No one doubted who ran the teams when they were present. Now the mega stars with huge paychecks have tremendous influence over everything managers and coaches do. Heck, the players flat out run the NBA.  In the Twins situation, Baldelli and the front office give way too much consideration to what the players want rather than what is in the team’s best interest. It is the new style of leadership—part camp counselor, part cheerleader, and part negotiator—all designed to keep certain players happy because they are now co-decision makers. When a team is doing well, nobody notices, but when those players are tanking, and nursing injuries, it brings the current management style into focus. When you add an over dependence on analytics (which are a great tool for sure) creating a one shoe fits all approach to hitting, it adds to the problem. It is simply the new reality in sports. The old style had issues as well, but I fear there needs to be a happy medium. 

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    18 hours ago, Old Crow said:

    If the Twins ever hope to get their money's worth out of Buxton's contract they need to put him back in center field on a daily basis... 

    If Buxton's knee was scoped last fall and it hasn't healed by now (9 months), it's not healing and it's very apparent...

    Buxton won't be playing CF this year. Twins are stuck.

     

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    1 hour ago, Riverbrian said:

    I was sleeping in med school but in my head... I certainly could imagine the need to see how an injury responds to rest or a band-aid or something. 

    Med Person: How are the Ribs this morning Mr. Buxton? 

    Buxton: The Rub is a little dry. I definitely prefer the Carolina Sauce. 

    Med Person: Still pretty swollen. Let's take a look again in the morning. In the meantime... lots of Chicken Noodle Soup and 7UP. 

     

    I can certainly understand taking a little time before making a move but at some point, you have to look at things and ask yourself... what are you waiting for. 

    There are times when injuries hurt a team and there are times when injuries make you BETTER. There are times when getting another player up and giving them at-bats provides immediate help or at worst necessary information toward future solutions. 

    Placing the player who Correa is SUPPOSED TO BE on the DL hurts a team.

    However, Placing the player that Correa HAS ACTUALLY BEEN THIS SEASON on the DL could make your team better.

    I get the short bench argument and agree it isn't ideal because after all, Garlick was starting against a right hander on last Sunday. Don't get me wrong... I don't mind Garlick playing against a right hander personally but I know it bugs the **** out of Rocco because he would never do that if everyone was available to him. 

    However... To me the bigger issue is the wasting of the opportunity to find someone better.

    WE NEED SOMEONE TO BE BETTER!

    Sometime injuries make you better. Let's not waste the opportunity.   

     

     

    I like this philosophy  , better bottle 🍾  it ...

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    I love the comments on if we bring up wallner or Julien where would they play?  Who would they replace?  Come on this team is bad and going nowhere.  There's plenty of candidates on this team.

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    23 hours ago, CRF said:

    This FO has always done this for some reason. They need to make any Il decision much faster. 

    Author states, before getting into the debate, that using the 3 day retroactive approach is commonly used around the league!! The PLAYER & the TRAINING STAFF need to be more decisive in the process to allow guys sitting in an office (or in their basements at home) to be able to discern what the best course of action is when a guy gets nicked (not injured). A, let’s wait 12-24 hours if the guy’s not injured, seems to be standard logic. A rib bruise, depth of bruise - player pain tolerance - what’s visible on x-ray - repeat of similar “nicks” v. new issue - are all part of each decision and we need to think that the guys making decisions are human and don’t have hindsight to rely on for their opinions.

     

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    1 hour ago, Whitey333 said:

    I love the comments on if we bring up wallner or Julien where would they play?  Who would they replace?  Come on this team is bad and going nowhere.  There's plenty of candidates on this team.

    Walner is hot & has been for 2-3 weeks. Julien is hitting .210 in the Show. Walner displaces Kepler (worst batted ball average in the sport) & Julien displaces Polanco on his notably better side (LH) which makes little .sense. Walner appears to be a solid option in right & at DH v. RH pitching. One seems clear & the other seems to be wish thinking from the March Baseball Classic.

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    I honestly hadn’t been tracking much this week since the Buxton injury. I was calling for Popkins’ and Rocco’s dismissal in another article, but now I kind of want to see the whole  front office let go. These are fundamental roster management decisions that have apparently been fumbled, especially when you consider how poorly both have been hitting. Some fresh bats and an opportunity to spell some guys and get them reset would have been a welcome move. Instead we’ve botched 5 games in a row, and I’ll feel lucky if those 5 games would have made a difference at the end of the season. 
     

    we are trending in the wrong direction once again, and i have zero confidence the leadership on this club can right the situation and have us finishing above .500 by the end of the season. 

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    On 6/8/2023 at 11:48 AM, John Belinski said:

    Wallner should be on the team. Either Rocco or front office should be replaced. They called up Larnach who is 0-12 since being called up. 

    Sounds like maybe Larnach should be replaced.......

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