6 Trade Packages Minnesota Twins Could Land for Jhoan Duran and Griffin Jax

[chpettit19]

16 minutes ago, arby58 said:

Having other options doesn't mean they are optimal for a team in 'win now' mode. Here are the trade values from that 'other site' for the players you name (numbers rounded up/down):
Santana: 6
Bird: 7
Esteven: -3
Detmars: 18
Fairbanks: 6
Bednar: 7

Other than Detmars, none of these are remotely close to the value assigned to Duran (25) and Jax (26). BTW, I incorrectly rounded Duran in a previous post, but I just verified all of these.

Here is a quote from another popular site, Trade Rumors, relating to the Twins' Duran and Jax. "It's a steep ask [2 top 100 prospects for either of them] but an understandable one [emphasis added]. Both Duran and Jax have power arsenals and elite bat-missing ability that's coupled with good command. Both are affordable. Duran is earning $4.125 million in his first season of arbitration eligibility. Jax is earning $2.365 million."

Yeah, the Twins have leverage.

Again, I've said many times I like that the Twins have put 2 top 100 prospects as the asking price. I think its the smart move. I'm not disagreeing with them requiring that. I'm saying I don't think they'll get it. 

I didn't say the Twins don't have leverage, I said the Twins don't have ALL the leverage. 

The Twins shouldn't sell Duran or Jax just to sell them. But they're also not likely to get what they're asking. Just like Cleveland isn't likely to get it for Clase even though he's worth it.

And all these posts saying 2 top 100 isn't even enough are nonsense. Nobody can find an example of any trade like this being done. Nobody. And, yes, that does matter when the point the author clearly stated he was making in his comment and I've been making is their ability to actually get that return. 

They may get it. It only takes one team. But everyone here should be highly impressed with Falvey for setting a new precedent if he does. Because there is none now. And that matters. 

[saviking]

21 hours ago, bigdave said:

If the Twins trade Duran or Joe Ryan, they are idiots. They are the foundation of the pitching staff, one that could be good in the next few years. Trade off the short-time players, but don't sell off the guys who give us a chance to win in the future.

I agree with the exception that because we are hung with Correa's enormous salary we won't have the money sign them before they become free agents. 

[tony&rodney]

2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

Yes, that is what's holding them back. And nobody has been willing to throw out any suggested answer to my question on how you improve the hitting without trading some of the pitching. 

They have the pitching for 2 more years. Then they lose it for comp picks. How do you improve the hitting in the next 2 years so the team can win with no real money to spend? You have to better balance the roster or you're just going to have 2024 and 2025 happen in 2026 and 2027 and then watch Ryan, Lopez, Ober, Duran, and Jax ride off into the sunset. How do you win in 2026 and 2027 without making any trades of real talent? 

Some really unexpected luck would need to occur for the Twins to win without changing the roster other than internal additions. Ryan Jeffers remains healthy and productive. Noah Cardenas becomes a good 2nd catcher. Luke Keaschall crushes at 1B. Brooks Lee suddenly learns to hit (possible) and can play a decent 2B (not his best position). Royce Lewis gets votes for MVP. Carlos Correa returns to his best self. Emmanuel Rodriguez plays a full year without injuries and posts numbers in MLB that match his output in the minors. Byron Buxton plays all year at his current level. Walker Jenkins wins ROY. Larnach or Wallner have a full year of successful hitting as a DH. 

The odds. What are the odds? It seems like the Twins expect the players above to all reach those levels. I'm not placing any bets. Seems like overlooking the flaws of Julien, Miranda, Larnach, Lee, Wallner, and others the last two years was a miss. Maybe not though. Falvey has repeatedly stated his belief in the roster. I think the Twins will need to gamble a little bit. Do you have any blockbuster ideas to bring in a bat? I'm curious. My craziest idea is to trade Ryan, Ober, Larnach or Wallner, and Charlee Soto for Nick Kurtz and Mason Miller. Both sides say no as do about 99+% of all fans. My response is that I wanted a bat.

[Maybe Next Year]

12 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

I'm not "gung-ho" to trade them, but they're not winning with this pitching. They didn't win with them last year. They aren't winning with them this year. How do you propose they win with them next year? They aren't going to have money to bring in some stud free agent. They haven't developed a position player worth a darn so I'm not sure why we should believe next year they're suddenly going to have a bunch of these guys suddenly be stars. 

How do you make this team better? How do you stop the 2026 team from just being the 2024 and 2025 team all over again? What would your plan be if it doesn't include trading any of the pitching?

They aren’t winning with them because of exactly what you stated - they haven’t developed a position player worth a darn. What makes you think trading these pitchers for prospects will turn out any different? Perhaps it is time to look at the lack of development of our young players and question why they aren’t panning out. I say it’s on Baldelli and the coaching staff. I would love to see if the results with these young position players would be better if we had a different manager before I would trade away three excellent pitchers.

 

12 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

I'm not "gung-ho" to trade them, but they're not winning with this pitching. They didn't win with them last year. They aren't winning with them this year. How do you propose they win with them next year? They aren't going to have money to bring in some stud free agent. They haven't developed a position player worth a darn so I'm not sure why we should believe next year they're suddenly going to have a bunch of these guys suddenly be stars. 

How do you make this team better? How do you stop the 2026 team from just being the 2024 and 2025 team all over again? What would your plan be if it doesn't include trading any of the pitching?

 

[chpettit19]

59 minutes ago, Rod Carews Birthday said:

I think that the fear is that the Twins will trade one or more of these pitchers for over-hyped prospects that will amount to nothing in the long run.  The attempt to get top-100 type prospects or young MLB talent is at least an attempt to mitigate that possibility.  My point of view is that trading one of Jax/Duran is a good idea right now, but only if we can get an overpay — something that isn’t that uncommon at the trade deadline.  I would just like to be on the receiving end of that rather than a take what we can get situation.  As to the price of two top-100 types, it’s not that outrageous.  It’s steep — as one would expect it to be for a player as established and dominant as Jhoan Duran. To quote our SS, “If you want to shop at Dior. . . “

For the record, I agree that one of the starting big 3 need to be traded at some point, but I don’t think the answer is trading Joe Ryan right now.  I don’t think that his value goes down precipitously if we wait until the offseason or next year at this time.  In the meantime, we need to hope that one of the young guys can step up and pitch well enough to become part of the next big 3. 

Fully agree. I completely agree they shouldn't trade their non-expiring players just to trade them. That'd be incredibly foolish. I like the 2 top 100 price. I think its a smart bar to set. I don't think they'll get anyone to pay it, but it only takes one so there's always a chance. 

What I'm pushing back on with that comment is the idea that you can't/shouldn't trade these guys in general because they're good. They're good right now and it doesn't matter. The Angels didn't want to trade Shohei because he was good either. So they kept him and he played in 0 playoff games for them and now he plays across town and they got 1 pick for him. Juan Soto was good for the Nats and they didn't want to trade him, but they weren't winning. We're (well, not me I'm on my way up north for a camping trip) about to get a front row seat to Gore, Abrams, and Wood and how exciting those 3 are. Plus they have another filthy top 100 pitcher from that deal. And could turn Gore into more if they feel like it. 

I'd definitely prefer to wait until the offseason to deal a starter. Unless you're absolutely blown away with some sort of overwhelming deal now. But I don't understand how people think this team improves without trading a real piece or 2. How long does this position player group have to fail? What gives people faith the next wave of prospects are going to be so good in the next 2 years when the Twins have failed to produce any consistent position player talent at all in 8 years?

[arby58]

1 minute ago, tony&rodney said:

Some really unexpected luck would need to occur for the Twins to win without changing the roster other than internal additions. Ryan Jeffers remains healthy and productive. Noah Cardenas becomes a good 2nd catcher. Luke Keaschall crushes at 1B. Brooks Lee suddenly learns to hit (possible) and can play a decent 2B (not his best position). Royce Lewis gets votes for MVP. Carlos Correa returns to his best self. Emmanuel Rodriguez plays a full year without injuries and posts numbers in MLB that match his output in the minors. Byron Buxton plays all year at his current level. Walker Jenkins wins ROY. Larnach or Wallner have a full year of successful hitting as a DH. 

For a team that lost its numbers 2, 3, and 5 starters for an extended period of time, the Twins are still not a horrid team. Many of us (including yours truly) expected better, but I also didn't expect them to lose 60% of their starting rotation for June, July and probably part of August either.

I don't think all the things you mention have to happen for them to return to play-off competition next year.  Probably the one that would be the biggest boost would be Correa returning to form - but I also think this is probably the least likely. Yes, they need a least a couple of the young bats to get better.

That said, the Twins may well be a 'pitching first' team for the next couple of years (I highly doubt Jenkins will be ready next year for starters,). What they really need is Ryan, Lopez, and Ober to be healthy and in top form, and at least a couple of the 'promising' arms (SWR. Festa, Matthews, Adams, Morris, Raya) to emerge with more consistency.

[Otaknam]

I doubt the Twins will trade both Duran and Jax. But if they did getting only two top 100 prospects in return does that seem enough. Trading both severely weakens the BP going forward, and there is no guarantee any pitchers they get in return can fill that role. Both Jax and Duran are under contract for two more years, so there is no large salary that needs to be dumped. That said, I like the Dodgers trade with lefty Ferris and Rushing. The Twins need a lefty who is poised to make the ML roster. And Rushing is a highly rated prospect who fills a need as a lefty hitting catcher. Any trade needs to include at least one arm who can start. But I think Duran will be moved but not Jax. 

[chpettit19]

16 minutes ago, Maybe Next Year said:

They aren’t winning with them because of exactly what you stated - they haven’t developed a position player worth a darn. What makes you think trading these pitchers for prospects will turn out any different? Perhaps it is time to look at the lack of development of our young players and question why they aren’t panning out. I say it’s on Baldelli and the coaching staff. I would love to see if the results with these young position players would be better if we had a different manager before I would trade away three excellent pitchers.

 

 

I'd only trade them for MLB ready or established talent that other teams already developed. They only have the pitching for 2 more years, the window is closing. Fast. 

Boston has too many OFers and they're willing to deal Duran or Abreu. Duran or Jax aren't nearly enough, but one of our starters are this offseason. Now you have a legit, 2 way MLB outfielder to add to the top of the Twins lineup plus more depending on which starter you deal.

Moises Ballesteros is ready to hit in the bigs right now. If you can get him for either of the relievers now you've added 2 bats.

But I'm not one who subscribes to the "fire Baldelli and the coaches and its all fixed" hypothesis. They fired the hitting coaches after last season. How's that working out? It starts at the top. The FO and the coaching staff are one. The sooner people realize that, the better. Falvey can fire Baldelli, but he's just going to bring in somebody else who believes in the same kind of things because he believes in those things. He's not going to hire somebody who doesn't believe in using the players he brings in the way he believes they should be used. Until Falvey goes, nothing else matters.

[chpettit19]

18 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Some really unexpected luck would need to occur for the Twins to win without changing the roster other than internal additions. Ryan Jeffers remains healthy and productive. Noah Cardenas becomes a good 2nd catcher. Luke Keaschall crushes at 1B. Brooks Lee suddenly learns to hit (possible) and can play a decent 2B (not his best position). Royce Lewis gets votes for MVP. Carlos Correa returns to his best self. Emmanuel Rodriguez plays a full year without injuries and posts numbers in MLB that match his output in the minors. Byron Buxton plays all year at his current level. Walker Jenkins wins ROY. Larnach or Wallner have a full year of successful hitting as a DH. 

The odds. What are the odds? It seems like the Twins expect the players above to all reach those levels. I'm not placing any bets. Seems like overlooking the flaws of Julien, Miranda, Larnach, Lee, Wallner, and others the last two years was a miss. Maybe not though. Falvey has repeatedly stated his belief in the roster. I think the Twins will need to gamble a little bit. Do you have any blockbuster ideas to bring in a bat? I'm curious. My craziest idea is to trade Ryan, Ober, Larnach or Wallner, and Charlee Soto for Nick Kurtz and Mason Miller. Both sides say no as do about 99+% of all fans. My response is that I wanted a bat.

Wilyer Abreu from Boston would probably be my target. Or Duran. This offseason I'd have a lot of talks with them about my pitching and their OF bats. Those are 2 way players that would hit at the top of this order.

They'd have to put more in the deal if its Ryan going their direction, but I think they're a good trade partner. 

Baltimore is another possibility. You know I love Basallo. And they need pitching. Bad. Cowser is kind of interesting to me. They'd be more of a secondary target to me because I don’t think there's an established bat for sale there.

[tony&rodney]

2 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Wilyer Abreu from Boston would probably be my target. Or Duran. This offseason I'd have a lot of talks with them about my pitching and their OF bats. Those are 2 way players that would hit at the top of this order.

They'd have to put more in the deal if its Ryan going their direction, but I think they're a good trade partner. 

Baltimore is another possibility. You know I love Basallo. And they need pitching. Bad. Cowser is kind of interesting to me. They'd be more of a secondary target to me because I don’t think there's an established bat for sale there.

Baltimore seems as reluctant to change up their roster as the Twins. I'm also big on Basallo. He can hit and I don't care if it is as a DH, 1B, or C. Cowser and Westburg are both solid athletes. The Orioles should do something.

Boston may be very difficult to work with, but either Duran or Abreu are the targets. The Red Sox may feel free agency is the best use of resources. They have money.

After the season is over remains the optimal time to make some changes. I have been very disappointed the last two off seasons by the lack of movement by the Twins. It seems hard to believe change will happen as one excuse or another always pops up.

[EGFTShaw]

21 hours ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

I took it to mean one or the other. That's what the Twins have said, 2 top 100 prospects for one of Jax or Duran.

It was vague.

I assumed it was one or the other but as I read it, I wasn't sure anymore.

I am with BigDave, don't trade your future away.

Ryan has stopped 2 losing streaks recently.  That is what you want your front-line pitchers to do.  I am not anointing him as an Ace yet, just noting he is doing what you want your Ace to do.  There are No 1 SP and there are Aces.  They are not the same.

I am OK trying to sell of the expiring contracts, but unless there is something in the makeup of Jax, Duran, Ryan, I am NOT selling them off.

Well maybe one of Jax/Duran for an equivalent haul of Herschel Walker trade.

[tony&rodney]

29 minutes ago, arby58 said:

For a team that lost its numbers 2, 3, and 5 starters for an extended period of time, the Twins are still not a horrid team. Many of us (including yours truly) expected better, but I also didn't expect them to lose 60% of their starting rotation for June, July and probably part of August either.

I don't think all the things you mention have to happen for them to return to play-off competition next year.  Probably the one that would be the biggest boost would be Correa returning to form - but I also think this is probably the least likely. Yes, they need a least a couple of the young bats to get better.

That said, the Twins may well be a 'pitching first' team for the next couple of years (I highly doubt Jenkins will be ready next year for starters,). What they really need is Ryan, Lopez, and Ober to be healthy and in top form, and at least a couple of the 'promising' arms (SWR. Festa, Matthews, Adams, Morris, Raya) to emerge with more consistency.

My win guess for this year was in the 83-85 range. Rolling it back again next year would be more of the same, at best. Without finding some consistent offense the Twins are destined to be a .500 team.

Right now, the Twins are slow, defensively challenged, run the bases poorly, and most importantly lack a decent consistent offense. Every game we wonder who will help out Byron. I think there needs to be some change.

The pitching is pretty good even if the younger or less experienced pitchers are inconsistent. It is rather remarkable they have done as well as they have in front of the defense. The pitching could improve somewhat, but perhaps the biggest change in the pitching staff might be getting more consistent outings. Again, I would not like pitching with the gloves the Twins use.

[chpettit19]

3 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Baltimore seems as reluctant to change up their roster as the Twins. I'm also big on Basallo. He can hit and I don't care if it is as a DH, 1B, or C. Cowser and Westburg are both solid athletes. The Orioles should do something.

 

Boston may be very difficult to work with, but either Duran or Abreu are the targets. The Red Sox may feel free agency is the best use of resources. They have money.

After the season is over remains the optimal time to make some changes. I have been very disappointed the last two off seasons by the lack of movement by the Twins. It seems hard to believe change will happen as one excuse or another always pops up.

While I don't believe in "log jams," Boston is actually getting close to having too many outfielders. With Roman Anthony, Duran, Abreu, Rafaela, and Yoshida. Their next prospect to debut is likely Garcia (not even going to attempt that first name) who is already on the 40-man and tearing AAA apart. 

If there was ever a time to trade from a strength, this is it. That's 6 guys for 4 spots. Yoshida is a DH so I wouldn't want him. But I'd call about the rest and I think Mr Breslow would be happy to talk to his former club about their arms in exchange. No idea what a final deal would look like, but I think there's a path there.

[arby58]

16 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

My win guess for this year was in the 83-85 range. Rolling it back again next year would be more of the same, at best. Without finding some consistent offense the Twins are destined to be a .500 team.

Right now, the Twins are slow, defensively challenged, run the bases poorly, and most importantly lack a decent consistent offense. Every game we wonder who will help out Byron. I think there needs to be some change.

The pitching is pretty good even if the younger or less experienced pitchers are inconsistent. It is rather remarkable they have done as well as they have in front of the defense. The pitching could improve somewhat, but perhaps the biggest change in the pitching staff might be getting more consistent outings. Again, I would not like pitching with the gloves the Twins use.

Yeah, I made a post yesterday highlighting their lack of speed and athleticism and also mentioned this manifests itself in poor defense. I do think the next group of emerging minor leaguers (Keaschall, Culpepper, Jenkins, Emma) have more speed/are more athletic than the Wallner-Larnach-Lee-post injuries Lewis cohort. Probably not that impactful for 2026, but 2027 is possible (ala the Tigers turnaround) - which is why I would be totally against a pitching fire sale that included Ryan and both Duran and Jax.

[SF Twins Fan]

11 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

Yahoo posted an article suggesting Jax for Justin Crawford and Keaton Anthony from the Phillies.  How do people feel about that?

 I would do probably do that deal but I'm very high on Crawford.  I would prefer if they added another player to the trade through.

[AKTwinsFan]

Yeah so if we dont want to be contending the next few years we trade away our main relievers. I like the LA trade if they throw in a veteran bat who can help boost the lineup now.

[DJL44]

36 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Right now, the Twins are slow, defensively challenged, run the bases poorly, and most importantly lack a decent consistent offense. Every game we wonder who will help out Byron. I think there needs to be some change.

I think 2B is a clear place to add speed and defense.  1B is a clear place to add consistent offense. LF would be nice to add both with Jenkins but he’s a year off.

[Mike Sixel]

11 hours ago, TheLeviathan said:

Yahoo posted an article suggesting Jax for Justin Crawford and Keaton Anthony from the Phillies.  How do people feel about that?

Anthony is a hard one to understand. He wasn't drafted for to a college gambling scandal. Had issues with the fastball, but is hitting well this year. I'd flip Crawford for something else if I could, but it might be a fair deal, that fans will hate. 

[Maybe Next Year]

2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

I'd only trade them for MLB ready or established talent that other teams already developed. They only have the pitching for 2 more years, the window is closing. Fast. 

Boston has too many OFers and they're willing to deal Duran or Abreu. Duran or Jax aren't nearly enough, but one of our starters are this offseason. Now you have a legit, 2 way MLB outfielder to add to the top of the Twins lineup plus more depending on which starter you deal.

Moises Ballesteros is ready to hit in the bigs right now. If you can get him for either of the relievers now you've added 2 bats.

But I'm not one who subscribes to the "fire Baldelli and the coaches and its all fixed" hypothesis. They fired the hitting coaches after last season. How's that working out? It starts at the top. The FO and the coaching staff are one. The sooner people realize that, the better. Falvey can fire Baldelli, but he's just going to bring in somebody else who believes in the same kind of things because he believes in those things. He's not going to hire somebody who doesn't believe in using the players he brings in the way he believes they should be used. Until Falvey goes, nothing else matters.

I don't disagree at all with your take on Falvey and his baseball philosophy. I still can’t believe Baldelli is the guy. For example- last year he used 154 different starting lineups with the same line up being used in back to back games 6 times.  Yes, there were injuries but my issue is that the inconsistency Baldelli creates doesnt help the players. That’s on Baldelli and not Falvey. I hope the new ownership cleans house. 

[arby58]

2 hours ago, SF Twins Fan said:

 I would do probably do that deal but I'm very high on Crawford.  I would prefer if they added another player to the trade through.

They're both young and relatively advanced, but if Crawford is the headliner, do we really need another outfield prospect - unless you think Jenkins, Emma, and Gonzalez are all going to flame out? Granted Anthony is a 1B, but he's mid-year 2027 for the majors.

[SF Twins Fan]

37 minutes ago, arby58 said:

They're both young and relatively advanced, but if Crawford is the headliner, do we really need another outfield prospect - unless you think Jenkins, Emma, and Gonzalez are all going to flame out? Granted Anthony is a 1B, but he's mid-year 2027 for the majors.

I have little belief in Rodriguez.  Maybe he's stops getting injured three times a year, but I doubt it.  I think Jenkins will be an all-star in time but is likely a corner outfielder.  I'd rather have Gonzalez as a part time outfielder and more of a full time DH based on his lack or athleticism and overall poor defensive ability.

I think Crawford has the potential to be an all-star center fielder and greatly improves the athleticism of the team.  Add in Jenkins and Keaschall and the Twins would have the potential to be a very athletic team.

[arby58]

I've got a question in on Trade Rumors chat with paid subscribers. I (Falvey) asked: I need a catcher or IB to frontline a deal for Duran or Jax. Any takers?

I'll post the response if they answer the question during the chat.

[jimmyc]

The Twins Daily writer clearly cannot read.  Passan clearly say "teams look at what the Twins are asking for to acquire Duran or Jax -- at least two top-100-caliber prospects".  Passan says 2 top-100 prospects for Duran OR Jax.  Not for a package of both.

[jimmyc]

The Twins Daily writer clearly cannot read.  Passan clearly said "teams look at what the Twins are asking for to acquire Duran or Jax -- at least two top-100-caliber prospects".  Passan says 2 top-100 prospects for Duran OR Jax.  Not for a package of both.

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, jimmyc said:

The Twins Daily writer clearly cannot read.  Passan clearly say "teams look at what the Twins are asking for to acquire Duran or Jax -- at least two top-100-caliber prospects".  Passan says 2 top-100 prospects for Duran OR Jax.  Not for a package of both.

Or they made a simple mistake? Or they don't agree they can get two for one RP (since no else has in the last decade)? I doubt it is as you rudely say that they can't read....

[chpettit19]

2 hours ago, Maybe Next Year said:

I don't disagree at all with your take on Falvey and his baseball philosophy. I still can’t believe Baldelli is the guy. For example- last year he used 154 different starting lineups with the same line up being used in back to back games 6 times.  Yes, there were injuries but my issue is that the inconsistency Baldelli creates doesnt help the players. That’s on Baldelli and not Falvey. I hope the new ownership cleans house. 

Falvey meets with/talks to Baldelli every single day. They are one and the same. The lineup changes are an analytics thing. They're driven by front office data that is provided to Baldelli daily. If they fire Baldelli they aren't going to hire somebody who doesn't believe in matchup based lineup decisions.

That's the point. Baldelli is a symptom, not disease. Firing him doesn't cure anything because he'll be replaced with the same symptom. That complaint of yours is a complaint about a Falvey belief. Falvey believes in matchup based lineups. Without removing him it doesn't matter who below him is removed because he just replaces them with other people who believe the same things and will run things with the same philosophies. 

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Falvey meets with/talks to Baldelli every single day. They are one and the same. The lineup changes are an analytics thing. They're driven by front office data that is provided to Baldelli daily. If they fire Baldelli they aren't going to hire somebody who doesn't believe in matchup based lineup decisions.

That's the point. Baldelli is a symptom, not disease. Firing him doesn't cure anything because he'll be replaced with the same symptom. That complaint of yours is a complaint about a Falvey belief. Falvey believes in matchup based lineups. Without removing him it doesn't matter who below him is removed because he just replaces them with other people who believe the same things and will run things with the same philosophies. 

Also, this idea that if CC hits 4th or 5th matters to him as a hitter seems really odd to me. They are all going up there trying to get a hit. Also, so many injuries, and bad players and platoon guys....why would anyone want a consistent lineup given this roster and last year's? I just don't get this obsession so many here have. Do we really think if Lewis wakes up and he's batting 4th or 6th he groans and decides he isn't happy and can't play well? 

[TheLeviathan]

4 hours ago, SF Twins Fan said:

 I would do probably do that deal but I'm very high on Crawford.  I would prefer if they added another player to the trade through.

I'm in the same boat - I'm high on Crawford but I don't like Anthony at all.  No thanks on a 1B prospect who hits as many bombs as Ben Revere.

[USAFChief]

1 hour ago, chpettit19 said:

Falvey meets with/talks to Baldelli every single day. They are one and the same. The lineup changes are an analytics thing. They're driven by front office data that is provided to Baldelli daily. If they fire Baldelli they aren't going to hire somebody who doesn't believe in matchup based lineup decisions.

That's the point. Baldelli is a symptom, not disease. Firing him doesn't cure anything because he'll be replaced with the same symptom. That complaint of yours is a complaint about a Falvey belief. Falvey believes in matchup based lineups. Without removing him it doesn't matter who below him is removed because he just replaces them with other people who believe the same things and will run things with the same philosophies. 

Wow. 

"We cant fire a demonstrably crappy manager because the FO will just hire another one."

 

 

 

[Jacksson]

Refresh my memory.

How did the last two catchers we got from the Dodgers work out??