Twins (Paddack) vs Dodgers (Glasnow): 7/23/25, 3:10pm

[Aggies7]

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Anyone wanna revisit Rocco having Duran pitch a second inning last night??

Agree, Topa could have been tossed out there last night.

But Jax can’t puke on his shoes either 

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Agree totally but also the team is not going to compete for a while so the closer is not as impactful as it would be on a contender 

Don't need a closer if you can't score runs.....but I'd be in no hurry to deal him. Must get blown out of the water, and then some.

[jaimedude]

Twins would literally have a winning record if you could add in Wins for all the games Rocco and Jax have imploded this year. 

[BillyBallLives]

5 minutes ago, Peter said:

We got screwed betts was out on K unrea

I missed something....how was he out? 

[IndyTwinsFan]

2 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

Anyone wanna revisit Rocco having Duran pitch a second inning last night??

I wanna revisit setting it up for Jax to close.  He's one of the last arms in the pen I want closing a game.  Ever!

[mrtwinsfan]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

Anyone wanna revisit Rocco having Duran pitch a second inning last night??

OR NOT LETTING BEEF THROW A 2ND INNING -HE WAS ON FULL REST - INSTEAD HE BRINGS IN LOUIE FOR 2 WHO THREW THE NIGHT B4 ,   How the hell do you walk Ruiz  ?????  and Bader did have it in the glove also ,  total choke job  by all involved

[tony&rodney]

Damn. Jax's trade value just plummeted.

[Parfigliano]

2 minutes ago, BillyBallLives said:

I missed something....how was he out? 

Check Swinging strike not called

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, tony&rodney said:

Damn. Jax's trade value just plummeted.

After what we saw the dodgers relievers do in this series, I think they’d still be interested 😂

[mrtwinsfan]

and without all the walks ?  this team cant score  without them ,  another issue

[tony&rodney]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

After what we saw the dodgers relievers do in this series, I think they’d still be interested 😂

Oh, the Dodgers are interested. However, the price? It is down.

[USAFChief]

7 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Agree, Topa could have been tossed out there last night.

But Jax can’t puke on his shoes either 

I also dont intentionally walk the tying run into scoring position, and the winning run to 1st, either.

I don't care who is at the plate. Ohtani, or Babe Ruth..

 

[Western SD Fan]

I surmised at the beginning of the game that the first manager that goes to their bullpen will lose.  Both bullpens have been extensively used over the last week and especially in this series.  Rocco went to the bullpen first.  Roberts trusted Glasnow to get one more inning even though his pitch count was much higher.  Both teams have a day off tomorrow so we can't use that excuse.  I think it is true that the Twins have a better bullpen than the Dodgers right now, provided they are deployed correctly.  That's where the flow of the game comes into play.  Roberts just has a better understanding of the flow of the game than Rocco does and we saw it on full display today.

[BillyBallLives]

2 minutes ago, mrtwinsfan said:

INSTEAD HE BRINGS IN LOUIE FOR 2 WHO THREW THE NIGHT B4

Actually.....this was Varland 3rd appearance in a row....so I agree.....Rocco Can't Manage a Pen...today's game was Exhibit # 892

[USAFChief]

6 minutes ago, IndyTwinsFan said:

I wanna revisit setting it up for Jax to close.  He's one of the last arms in the pen I want closing a game.  Ever!

And the reason it was Jax?

 

[BillyBallLives]

3 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

Check Swinging strike not called

I missed it....I'll take your word for it, figures....

[h2oface]

1 minute ago, tony&rodney said:

Oh, the Dodgers are interested. However, the price? It is down.

BS. Trades are never made on the very last performance. Never. Whatever the value is, it is still there in whole.

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, USAFChief said:

I also dont intentionally walk the tying run into scoring position, and the winning run to 1st, either.

I don't care who is at the plate. Ohtani, or Babe Ruth..

 

But considering who was on deck, I do it every time

[BillyBallLives]

Dang....it was in the glove. What a game! Just didn't go our way.

 

[mnfireman]

5 minutes ago, mrtwinsfan said:

OR NOT LETTING BEEF THROW A 2ND INNING -HE WAS ON FULL REST - INSTEAD HE BRINGS IN LOUIE FOR 2 WHO THREW THE NIGHT B4 ,   How the hell do you walk Ruiz  ?????  and Bader did have it in the glove also ,  total choke job  by all involved

Jax should have went after Ruiz instead of trying to make him chase something, he obviously wasn't swinging, especially after ball 2. 

It would have been a highlight reel catch had Bader made it, looked like the ball, the glove, and the ground all met at the same time.

[thelanges5]

gleeman:
 

This was Griffin Jax's seventh game in which he lowered the Twins' win probability by at least 25%, the most by any AL reliever.

[AceWrigley]

2 minutes ago, BillyBallLives said:

Actually.....this was Varland 3rd appearance in a row....so I agree.....Rocco Can't Manage a Pen...today's game was Exhibit # 892

 

[AceWrigley]

Another Twin's creative loss.

[USAFChief]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

But considering who was on deck, I do it every time

And I wouldn’t. 

Fair enough. 

It IS one of those sort of unwritten managerial "rules" though. You just rarely see it.

Still and all, the bigger problem was needlessly not having Duran available today.

And there's no doubt who is responsible for that. 

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, thelanges5 said:

gleeman:
 

This was Griffin Jax's seventh game in which he lowered the Twins' win probability by at least 25%, the most by any AL reliever.

So you’re saying it hurts to lose the lead in the bottom of the 9th? Lol jk 

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, thelanges5 said:

gleeman:
 

This was Griffin Jax's seventh game in which he lowered the Twins' win probability by at least 25%, the most by any AL reliever.

And people keep saying dealing him means they can't compete the next two years and should just blow it up. One RP isn't the make or break for any team, especially this one. 

[KirbyDome89]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

But considering who was on deck, I do it every time

Way too many fans will fixate on the check swing because it's easier than acknowledging that following that pitch 4 straight hitters reached base, one of whom (Ruiz) can't hit, and never had to even take a swing. That's called choking. This game wasn't stolen, the Twins gave it away. 

[BillyBallLives]

21 minutes ago, h2oface said:

Game shouild have been over. Check swing was a strike. Umpire missed such an important call. Coiuldn't pull the trigger. They DO change games.

THANK YOU....absolutely. Someone on TD the other day was saying they don't.  Door swings both ways, but it will be a better game with ABS...100% ABS or none I say. 

[Western SD Fan]

49 minutes ago, Western SD Fan said:

Stewart is looking to come in for the 8th.  Surprising a little as this is usually Jax's spot with the middle of the order coming up.

Seems like a premonition to disaster for me.  I was surprised at the time and still befuddled now as it turned out about how I would have expected.  I didn't understand why Jax wasn't out for the 8th.  Could have used Stewart for the 9th or even had Duran warmed up in case someone got on base for a specific hitter (Ohtani or Betts comes to mind here)

[USAFChief]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

So you’re saying it hurts to lose the lead in the bottom of the 9th? Lol jk 

Actually I would have thought losing the lead bottom 9 would lower your win probability by MORE than 25%.

Turns out Jax is actually doing well there.