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Game Thread: Twins (Gray) v Guardians (Bibee), 8/30/23 @ 12:10 CT


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1 minute ago, HokieRif said:

Whatever the MLB season record is for most DPs hit into during a season, I have to believe Correa is threatening that record.

It's 36

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5 minutes ago, HokieRif said:

Whatever the MLB season record is for most DPs hit into during a season, I have to believe Correa is threatening that record.

Jim Rice holds the record - 36 in 1984.  Correa is now at 28, which is now Top-50 all-time.  Doing some quick match, he's averaging one DP per 5 games.  If that keeps up, that will mean another 6 before the season is over, for a total of 34, which will place him 3rd all-time in MLB history.

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Correa OMG.

Hes such an embarrassment by proxy Polanco drawing a lead off walk there is literally a bad AB result. We all knew what was coming.

Stop the madness. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Puckett34 said:

81 pitches or not, he was getting shaky and is known to be worse the 3rd time through the order.  Now I would've probably given him a batter or so depending on the result, but I think taking him out was the right call.  To call in malpractice is a bit of a overstatement.

You mean the allowed slash line of .212/.307/.356 the 3rd time through the order? That Sonny Gray?

     
Posted
1 minute ago, SwainZag said:

Isn't that what a baseball manager is suppose to do?  See something that repeatedly happens and change it?  Sonny Gray, almost consistently pitches well and has a late blow up inning.  Everyone can watch and see that.  

He's literally thrown 6 innings total between the 7th-9th innings. If you or Rocco have seen that Gray is guaranteed to blow up late in games based on 6 innings, I want to hire you to predict my future.

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Just now, Battle ur tail off said:

Pull, Pull, Pull, Max effort swing after max effort swing. 

I just don't get Carlos approach at the plate right now. When they batted him leadoff, he just put barrels on balls and took walks. He needs to get back to that.

He hit the same in the leadoff spot (after a hot start) as he did before they put him there.

The foot is clearly an issue batting.....I'd like to see them rest him and put Lewis at SS and ? at third. But I get why they aren't resting him. I don't get not moving him down in the order, though.

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Just now, Puckett34 said:

Looks like I stand corrected.

The bottom 1/3rd of the Cleveland order was due up as well - I am taking my chances that Gray can get through that part of the order.

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1 minute ago, SpicyGarvSauce said:

He's literally thrown 6 innings total between the 7th-9th innings. If you or Rocco have seen that Gray is guaranteed to blow up late in games based on 6 innings, I want to hire you to predict my future.

It's not based on the 7th-9th.  Gray has blown up in the 5th and 6th innings several times.  I'm done with this argument, I supported the move and if Duran shuts the door here, it will be the right move.

 

Hell if MAT didn't lollygag getting the throw back in to start the inning, it's probably still a shutout.

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Just now, SpicyGarvSauce said:

The bottom 1/3rd of the Cleveland order was due up as well - I am taking my chances that Gray can get through that part of the order.

I did say in my original reply to you that I would give him a batter or two.  We're in some agreeance here, I also understand taking him out.

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1 minute ago, Battle ur tail off said:

Pull, Pull, Pull, Max effort swing after max effort swing. 

I just don't get Carlos approach at the plate right now. When they batted him leadoff, he just put barrels on balls and took walks. He needs to get back to that.

Absolutely right. And from a guy who when he's going good will hit line drives to rightfield. Maybe he needs to talk to Max. 

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2 minutes ago, SwainZag said:

It's not based on the 7th-9th.  Gray has blown up in the 5th and 6th innings several times.  I'm done with this argument, I supported the move and if Duran shuts the door here, it will be the right move.

 

Hell if MAT didn't lollygag getting the throw back in to start the inning, it's probably still a shutout.

No, it will not mean that the right move was made. This is about not letting Gray pitch the 8th, not whether Gray or Duran would get the 9th with a lead. That is a poor way to look at it.

Just because something works out in your favor doesn't mean the right decision(s) were made - as I stated before, Gray is allowing a .700 OPS the 3rd time through an order.

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2 minutes ago, SwainZag said:

It's not based on the 7th-9th.  Gray has blown up in the 5th and 6th innings several times.  I'm done with this argument, I supported the move and if Duran shuts the door here, it will be the right move.

 

Hell if MAT didn't lollygag getting the throw back in to start the inning, it's probably still a shutout.

I decide to drink at the bar and drive home while intoxicated and make it home safely.

That doesn't mean my decision to drink and drive was the right one just because I didn't crash my vehicle or injure someone.

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Just now, SpicyGarvSauce said:

No, it will not mean that the right move was made. That is a poor way to look at it.

Just because something works out in your favor doesn't mean the right decision(s) were made - as I stated before, Gray is allowing a .700 OPS the 3rd time through an order.

And a .532 thru the 1st and ,663 thru the 2nd.  He's also given up just as many HR to a hitter in their 3rd PA of the game as the rest of the game combined.  Which is 468 PA to 150 PA.  

 

2 minutes ago, SpicyGarvSauce said:

I decide to drink at the bar and drive home while intoxicated and make it home safely.

That doesn't mean my decision to drink and drive was the right one just because I didn't crash my vehicle or injure someone.

You are extremely reaching here.  

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