Game Thread: Twins (López) v Angels (Ohtani), 5/21 @ 3:07pm CT

[h2oface]

RALLY!!!!

[Twinning Blue]

Damn, nice swing Carlos

[Montdak]

Seriously they gotta shake out their head gear and ashcan this jinx they have with bases loaded and SF situation.  And BL and SF situations in general.  Their production on that must shatter all records.

[RickOShea]

1 minute ago, Montdak said:

Seriously they gotta shake out their head gear and ashcan this jinx they have with bases loaded and SF situation.  And BL and SF situations in general.  Their production on that must shatter all records.

Is the Dahli Lama available for a team seminar?

[h2oface]

Pablo, our so called pitching savior we sacrificed Arraez for, now 2-3. His Fault? He does the best he can. 

[wabene]

3 minutes ago, h2oface said:

Pretty generic. Can you be more specific?

(Not what a "self fulfilling prophecy" means, though).

Give me a break. My point stands. It is clear as day. You would leave Pablo in for 120 pitches? Good luck with that. 

[Squirrel]

Tough loss. I might need a blizzard as consolation 

[tony&rodney]

The Twins are mostly consistently competitive and seem to be working hard. The original guess of a 82-85 win total is looking accurate, good for an AL Central crown right now.

[wabene]

2 minutes ago, h2oface said:

Pablo, our so called pitching savior we sacrificed Arraez for, now 2-3. 

[rwilfong86]

1 minute ago, h2oface said:

Pablo, our so called pitching savior we sacrificed Arraez for, now 2-3. 

His bat and ability to get on base is sorely missed. 

[Craig Arko]

Back to Firefly.

[Irishman]

Twins bullpen is real bad.   They are terrible.   

[h2oface]

3 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

The Twins are mostly consistently competitive and seem to be working hard. The original guess of a 82-85 win total is looking accurate, good for an AL Central crown right now.

It looked good until September last year, and we ended up 14 games or so behind. But I agree. This is maybe a .500 team. You are your record.

[Squirrel]

6 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

The Twins are mostly consistently competitive and seem to be working hard. The original guess of a 82-85 win total is looking accurate, good for an AL Central crown right now.

I think I had them at about 85 wins ,,, hoped that maybe it would be higher after the first couple of weeks, but back down to reality.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

5 minutes ago, wabene said:

Give me a break. My point stands. It is clear as day. You would leave Pablo in for 120 pitches? Good luck with that. 

I think the point is the hook was too quick. Maybe Lopez goes up to 110-115 pitches, but also there is a chance that the next pitch is a ground ball double play, too. 

[Squirrel]

Just now, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

I think the point is the hook was too quick. Maybe Lopez goes up to 110-115 pitches, but also there is a chance that the next pitch is a ground ball double play, too. 

No way to know. It’s a hindsight call. It might have imploded, too

[wabene]

2 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

I think the point is the hook was too quick. Maybe Lopez goes up to 110-115 pitches, but also there is a chance that the next pitch is a ground ball double play, too. 

Obviously that is your opinion I just don't agree. Send a starter out to start an inning with around 100 pitches? If they walk the first batter and get pulled, I wouldn't call that a quick hook

[cHawk]

[MABB1959]

10 minutes ago, rwilfong86 said:

His bat and ability to get on base is sorely missed. 

In my glass half empty idea is they wanted to get rid of him before they had to pay him.  Basically we can’t have more than one good thing. 

[MABB1959]

16 minutes ago, h2oface said:

Pablo, our so called pitching savior we sacrificed Arraez for, now 2-3. His Fault? He does the best he can. 

Not many good bats so not really his fault, right?

[rwilfong86]

1 minute ago, MABB1959 said:

In my glass half empty idea is they wanted to get rid of him before they had to pay him.  Basically we can’t have more than one good thing. 

I would agree 100%. Arraez hitting leadoff for this team would be a significant improvement to the daily shuffle they have now

[tony&rodney]

30 minutes ago, wabene said:

1. I am a huge Luis Arraez fan.

2. I make the trade every single time, 100%.

[wabene]

3 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

1. I am a huge Luis Arraez fan.

2. I make the trade every single time, 100%.

Me too Luis was so fun to watch and hilarious on camera behind the scenes. One of a kind, but yeah I'll take Pablo. I like what I saw from him today. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

1 minute ago, wabene said:

… I'll take Pablo. I like what I saw from him today. 

but not enough to leave him in for one more batter? 🙂

[wabene]

1 minute ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

but not enough to leave him in for one more batter? 🙂

Ha ha yeah, but you know I never said I wouldn't have let him face one more batter. I said it wasn't a quick hook. I may have left him in, at that point it would come down to matchups etc, more data than I had at that moment. Same thing with pulling Jorge L in favor of DeLeon. That was a head scratcher for me that I would like explained to satisfy my curiosity. It worked though. 

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

32 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

No way to know. It’s a hindsight call. 

In real time, I thought Pablo should have stayed in the game. 

If Pablo gets through the 7th, then you have Jorge for the 8th and Duran for the 9th. That’s what the thinking should have been, right there. 

[weitz41]

Had a chance to win most of these road games..Managed 2 of 6...More of the same.. Not down or up on the team. Meh...

[h2oface]

49 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

I think the point is the hook was too quick. Maybe Lopez goes up to 110-115 pitches, but also there is a chance that the next pitch is a ground ball double play, too. 

Agreed. Too quick. My feeling as it happened, too. It is not a hindsight call to write about your feelings as they happened later. It was still one's call in real time. One more batter wouldn't have hurt, and he deserved it after his 6 previous innings. He certainly didn't deserve the other Lopez to blow it up. He was at 94 when he started the inning. Taken out at 101. The next batter was righty/righty for either Lopez. The wrong one got the ball. Middle middle. Couldn't have been served up more middle.

[Squirrel]

58 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

In real time, I thought Pablo should have stayed in the game. 

If Pablo gets through the 7th, then you have Jorge for the 8th and Duran for the 9th. That’s what the thinking should have been, right there. 

As I said earlier in the thread, I thought so, too. But you are guessing at a favorable outcome. It could have worked or could have been worse. All I’m saying is there is no way to know. It’s easy to second guess.