GTD 8/28/2022 Twins vs Giants 1:10pm CDT

[CRF]

1 minute ago, wabene said:

Now that's a pitching pipeline! 

Cue the rim shot!

[Aggies7]

What a marathon game 

[Tlaker]

9 minutes ago, CRF said:

Agree. This is the only role for Smeltzer. Pagan? How about Uber?

Back seat to the airport or front seat driving?

[mrtwinsfan]

1 minute ago, wabene said:

Now that's a pitching pipeline! 

rumor is one got pulled out by right arm and the other left

[RpR]

Fulmer has success.

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[BH67]

I could use some help.  Who is that person wearing Jake Cave's uniform the last two days?

[Tlaker]

5 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

I like the new scheduling format, play everybody every year.

A schedule that is more balanced is a good thing 

[Squirrel]

3 minutes ago, Tlaker said:

A schedule that is more balanced is a good thing 

On many levels ... playing within the division so often reduces baseball to a regional game

[Squirrel]

Have they said yet who is warming up for the 9th ... or will Fulmer come back out for another inning?

[Squirrel]

10 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

What a marathon game 

Thankfully not quite as long as a cricket match ... unless there are a lot of extra innings ... 

[mnfireman]

5 minutes ago, Tlaker said:

A schedule that is more balanced is a good thing 

Unless an April game or series is cancelled against an opponent a team only plays once, then the fun begins trying to re-schedule.

[Parfigliano]

Just now, mnfireman said:

Unless an April game or series is cancelled against an opponent a team only plays once, then the fun begins trying to re-schedule.

That will be a problem

[LVTwinsfan]

2 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

On many levels ... playing within the division so often reduces baseball to a regional game

Still 56 divisional games, that’s enough.

[Squirrel]

4 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Unless an April game or series is cancelled against an opponent a team only plays once, then the fun begins trying to re-schedule.

It's a problem every year regardless and it gets done. How many were cancelled at TF this year?

[Squirrel]

SWEEEEEEEEEEP .... CHICKEN DINNAH WINNAH!

[Squirrel]

And Seattle is up 3-0 against Cleveland in the 6th ... hope the Mariners hold on!

[CRF]

Well, no chicken tonight though...Italian sausage on the grill for this household. Everyone enjoy your evening. Bring on the Sox!

[Tlaker]

9 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Unless an April game or series is cancelled against an opponent a team only plays once, then the fun begins trying to re-schedule.

They figured out how to do it back in my day…….?

[weitz41]

Great glad we got Lopez and Fulmer and not Hader..wow has he been bad..better the Padres then us!

[Puckett34]

[LVTwinsfan]

4-0 Mariners

bottom of 7

[Parfigliano]

Pork steak on the grill

[solomon1930]

47 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said:

4-0 Mariners

bottom of 7

4 - 0 final score

[PDX Twin]

1 hour ago, BH67 said:

I could use some help.  Who is that person wearing Jake Cave's uniform the last two days?

WPA over 0.9 for the last two games. There are some highly paid Twins who are not much above that for the season...

[Tlaker]

1 hour ago, PDX Twin said:

WPA over 0.9 for the last two games. There are some highly paid Twins who are not much above that for the season...

I am 66 years old and don’t know what WPA means nor, do I feel deprived because of that.

 I would like to start a thread elsewhere on TD , to hear what all this analytical stuff means and especially if it all started with Billy Beane with the A’s? How has that worked for them, or for that matter, any other team that utilizes it?

Tell me how to get the conversation started in a great give and take way.

[notoriousgod71]

3 hours ago, mnfireman said:

Unless an April game or series is cancelled against an opponent a team only plays once, then the fun begins trying to re-schedule.

Or a Sept series against a team they only play once.

[PDX Twin]

1 hour ago, Tlaker said:

I am 66 years old and don’t know what WPA means nor, do I feel deprived because of that.

 I would like to start a thread elsewhere on TD , to hear what all this analytical stuff means and especially if it all started with Billy Beane with the A’s? How has that worked for them, or for that matter, any other team that utilizes it?

Tell me how to get the conversation started in a great give and take way.

Good question. (Though you're a young whippersnapper to me!) I'm not much of an expert on modern metrics, but WPS is one that I think is quite useful in measuring "clutch hitting."

Win Probability Added measures how a player's at bats changes the estimated probability of his team winning the game. To take an easy example, starting the bottom of the ninth tied, the probability of the home team winning is, maybe, 0.6. (It's greater than 0.5 because the home team still has the 9th to score but the away team does not. It would be 0.5 at the beginning of the top of the 9th.) If a player hits a lead-off homerun, that probability rises to 1.0---the game is over and the home team has won. By increasing the win probability from 0.6 to 1.0, the batter gets credit for 0.4 win probability added. (And the opposing pitcher gets -0.4 because he allowed the home run, lowering his team's win probability from 0.4 to 0.0,)

I find it a very useful statistic because it gives credit for hit that are important to the team rather than first-inning solo homers that don't change the probability much.

In the case of Cave, his at-bats in the last two games have increased the Twins' win probability by nearly one, which is huge. Crudely, without his at-bats the Twins would have on average lost one of those two games.

I don't know the origins of that particular statistic, but 20 years ago I came up with the concept on my own. I had no access to the probabilities required (0.6 in my example) to put into into practice, but I was excited to find that someone with time and access had done so. I use the numbers from https://www.fangraphs.com/, though I believe there are alternatives. 

I hope I've been clear. No one statistic is a complete representation of a hitter's value, but I think WPA does tell us something important. 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

So I’m confused. When did San Francisco join the AL Central?

[sampleSizeOfOne]

Hey look, we won!
 

Whaddya know?