The band wagon

[goulik]

5-1 Check out these new age Twins!

 

5-3 Same old same old for the Twins! Here we go again...

 

All these over reactions are annoying me. Am I alone?

[drjim]

New to message boards?

[ashbury]

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[Joe A. Preusser]

New to message boards?

Yeah, Ive made my peace with the constant, rampant overreaction to a rediculous SSS. Regardless, I am still enjoying posting more this year than last.

[Craig Arko]

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

All these over reactions are annoying me. Am I alone?

No.

 

It drives me nuts. A few days ago, I didn't think this was an 85 win team. Today, I don't think they're a 60 win team.

 

Molitor was not a brilliant coach two days ago and a moron today. The rotation was not rock solid two days ago and a mess today.

 

162 games.

[KirbyDome89]

 

Agreed that as a small population here at TD the divide seems to be more pronounced than than reality says it is; but hey, at least as a whole we haven't fallen prey to the founder effect....

 

In all seriousness though it was a pretty funny video.

[Old Twins Cap]

It's baseball.  It's a long season. 

 

You are never as good as you think you are when winning.  And never as bad when losing.

 

Hope the young guys grow and contribute.

 

Avoid injuries.

 

It's a game, enjoy it.

[Bark's Lounge]

 

All these over reactions are annoying me. Am I alone?

Fans just wanted to be excited for good results. I don't know how that is annoying. 5-3 is better than I could have imagined.

[Blake]

 

Fans just wanted to be excited for good results. I don't know how that is annoying. 5-3 is better than I could have imagined.

Yeah, considering, shudder, last year, the Twins were 0-8.

[Thrylos]

[Vanimal46]

Frankly, I'm more annoyed by over the top optimism than I am about over the top pessimism. Given the state of the franchise the last 6+ years, if some view a post as pessimistic, it's probably more realistic than they care to admit.

[Bark's Lounge]

 

Frankly, I'm more annoyed by over the top optimism than I am about over the top pessimism. Given the state of the franchise the last 6+ years, if some view a post as pessimistic, it's probably more realistic than they care to admit.

Both sides get quite annoying. Realism is trapped in between two extremes.

[mikelink45]

Is your over reaction to over reaction part of what has to be a Twins phenomenon.  Of course people jumped on the wagon.  If they have been part of TD for the last five years they have been waiting to express an all out excitement.  I understand.  I feel like the Grinch when I keep saying I have to go three times through the rotation before I can judge anything, but I do understand the pent up angst.  Afterall this is MN where teams are filled with promise and seldom deliver.  Happily in the Twins 50+ year history they have two championships which is more than all the other major male sports.  Only the Lynx can match it.  So be ready for bandwagon jumping, the great Minnesota sport and relax as people do this.  To my knowledge noone has been hurt by it yet!

[Platoon]

I remember a local pro football team that started out 5-0. Even that bandwagon was overloaded, and that was a 16 game season. There are reasons to be cautiously optimistic this year, but that should be tempered by the base point from which we are judging said optimism. If this had been a good team, with good SP, and a solid manager, I could get excited. All I can do right now is keep peering up to see when the roof is going to fall in. Fool me once shame on you, fool me for like 6 years, would indicate I ain't very smart!

[twinsnorth49]

This site isn't frequented by your average, everyday fan. Swings like this are to be expected from a group of people who pretty much live and die with every game in a 162 game season.

[bird]

As a guy who probably has gotten on the case of posters who are harsh or unfair in their criticisms more than anyone, I have to say that my perception is that by and large the commenters have been extremely reasoned, pessimists and optimists alike. To me, it feels like we're seeing fewer irrational reactions to events than at any time in my history on here.

[BK432]

Meh. No biggie. Filter out the irrational. I made my peace a long time ago with the 'other side'. It's hard to change anyone.

[goulik]

I honestly was not talking about anyone here. I was listening to the radio on the way home from work and you woulda thought we had lost 5-10 in a row not two games in a three game series. 5-0 Vikings is like 50-0 in baseball statistically speaking but as was stated on KFAN on Monday, 5-1 in baseball represented 3-4 percent of the season. Some people in my RW are VERY reactionary... That's all. Probably shouldn't have vented carelessly on TD but for the most part, the TD world gets baseball and how it really works.

[Halsey Hall]

There's no bandwagon, hasn't been for years. Just us fans, some more optimistic than others. Myself, I figured about 73 wins. We can do that, anything more and I'll be thrilled. The team isn't much changed from last year so I can't expect as much as some other posters do.

 

Edit to add: Radio is radio, they try to sell the program. I don't pay much attention to those guys.

[Platoon]

I don't have to listen to talk radio to hear bandwagon, I have a son in law who I hate to watch sporting events with. He jumps on and off between at bats, or snaps. I pay attention to the Twins, keep up on TiVo, and have my irrational opinions, but after so many years of just plain yuck, it's going to take more than 5 games against mediocre competition for me to crawl back on the wagon. And I still see nothing in Molitor and his odd ball lineups to make me believe he can stay out of the way enough to make this team reach its potential. As for the extra pitcher, remember if he had a Park or Vargas, just think who would be patrolling LF at least three times a week?

[Blackjack]

 

Meh. No biggie. Filter out the irrational. I made my peace a long time ago with the 'other side'. It's hard to change anyone.

 

Thats the nature of any online forum. Shake your head, mutter to yourself 'get a life', and move on.

[mikelink45]

 

I honestly was not talking about anyone here. I was listening to the radio on the way home from work and you woulda thought we had lost 5-10 in a row not two games in a three game series. 5-0 Vikings is like 50-0 in baseball statistically speaking but as was stated on KFAN on Monday, 5-1 in baseball represented 3-4 percent of the season. Some people in my RW are VERY reactionary... That's all. Probably shouldn't have vented carelessly on TD but for the most part, the TD world gets baseball and how it really works.

No apologies needed.  The purpose of this site is to get people talking and thinking and you did that.  You made a successful posting. 

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

I honestly was not talking about anyone here. I was listening to the radio on the way home from work and you woulda thought we had lost 5-10 in a row not two games in a three game series. 5-0 Vikings is like 50-0 in baseball statistically speaking but as was stated on KFAN on Monday, 5-1 in baseball represented 3-4 percent of the season. Some people in my RW are VERY reactionary... That's all. Probably shouldn't have vented carelessly on TD but for the most part, the TD world gets baseball and how it really works.

No reason to apologize.

 

More than any other sport, temperance is needed in baseball fandom. It becomes tiring to hear over-the-top wailing a half dozen games into a 162 game season.

 

There are lots of productive things to talk about with this team, issues that need to be resolved if the team is going to post an acceptable record this season... but flailing about after a guy has one bad game isn't productive most of the time. One game is literally 0.006% of a season.

[lukeduke1980]

2 - 3 on the road.  A one run loss, a 2 run loss.  Relative to last year, still seems positive.

 

 

[Mike Sixel]

You know, I'm older than some of you, so here goes.....no place am I saying anyone should make the same choices as me.....

 

I decided over the last two years that I'd rather experience the highs and lows, than have a boring life where I was passively ok with everything all the time and didn't take risks. Last year, I got my hopes on on the Vikings before the season even started, and that just escalated when they went 5-0. And you know what? It was fun. Did the downturn end up more frustrating that way? yes. But, I've dabbled in trying to be in the middle space Buddhists talk about, where we don't let the world sway our emotions. I think they've got it wrong for me. I want the highs and lows. I want the excitement and disappointment. I want to feel alive over the next 20 or so years before I die. So, I'm never going to rip the those that jump on and off the bandwagon. Supporting a sports' team is completely irrational in the first place, and people that love a team or hate a team? Good for them if that makes them more happy.

 

All that typed......it can get annoying when people are over the top one way or the other here. But I'm learning to laugh / enjoy it more, rather than get annoyed over it. 

 

For me? Go for it. Live life, experience the highs and lows. For others? That's up to them.

 

But on this site, if Brock wants to be "too optimistic", good for him. 

[gocgo]

Perspective.  It's all about perspective.  5-3 is good.  If we win today, we have a .500 road trip which is good, but keep in mind that Chicago started last year 16-6.  Until the All-Star break, teams are trying to figure it out.  If you look at stats across the MLB, a lot of teams aren't hitting the ball well yet.  If we can win 2 of 3 at home and go .500 on the road, we will be in the playoff mix.  So, take a step back from the game to game stuff and look at our overall play.  Our defense looks pretty good right now.  Polanco looks adequate at short, our outfield looks great, Sano looks much better at 3rd than in the outfield, Castro looks good behind the plate, our pitchers are going deeper into games than they did last year.  So far, so good.  If they keep doing that, we could win 5 of 8 for the whole year.

[theBOMisthebomb]

Yeah, the Twin Cities is a notorious bandwagon town. It sure was nice to enjoy the 5-1 start. No reason to be annoyed.

[Mike Sixel]

I've never understood the negative connotation of "band wagon"....why should people pay attention to bad teams, buy tickets (give them money), and otherwise "support" them?

[Mr. Brooks]

I've never understood the negative connotation of "band wagon"....why should people pay attention to bad teams, buy tickets (give them money), and otherwise "support" them?

Yep, I don't get that either.

It's a business. Loyalty should be dependent on the quality of the product.

Nobody is going to call me bandwagon if I stop going to a restaurant that continually serves me awful food.

Nobody is going to call me bandwagon if I stop buying a specific make of vehicle because it's given me problems constantly.

Why are sports different? Never understand that.

I owe no loyalty to a business that isn't consistently giving me a quality product.