Miguel Sano is Off to a Worrisome Start

Let’s trade him for Gerrit Cole and Gleybar Torres

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He’s in year 2 of his contract, right? Trade value likely at an all time low and Kirilloff/Sabato forcing the issue here sooner or later. Twins may end up deciding between Kepler or Sano here shortly.

I am on record as being a Sano doubter. His long majestic home runs seem like just enough to keep hope for him alive for some. I might end up looking stupid for saying this. But I really think we would be better off short and long term by making Kiriloff our every day first baseman.

We need to check this on May 1; it is early. The big man is having some long at bats and a few quick ones.

Can we wait at least a month before these extreme takes?

Rookie Sano was the best Sano. Whatever he has done since then it hasn't been working. Occasionally he will get red hot but then its more of the same old, swing and miss.

My opinion does not qualify as "an extreme take." The sample size is not small and he is not going to suddenly become Big Pappi. Time to stop holding out hope IMHO.

I think it is a good sign that he is drawing some walks. His rookie year he seemed to wait the pitchers out and make them throw strikes. That went away and he has been a mess since. Like I have said repeatedly he will run into 30 cookies a year but that’s about it.

I concur--not a small sample size really. Just a continuation of who he probably is. The k's have never stopped. yes he will hit a mistake a mile, once in awhile. But you can't have a guy in the lineup every night that can't make contact.50% of the time.

I have to believe he may have a short leash this season.

Sano always does this. He's basically a league-average starting first baseman. Sure, he goes through these slumps - if he didn't, he'd be a superstar - but he's ultimately been pretty consistent throughout his career, once you account for swings in BABIP. He's keeping the spot warm for Kirilloff, Larnach, or Sabato.

My opinion does not qualify as "an extreme take." The sample size is not small and he is not going to suddenly become Big Pappi. Time to stop holding out hope IMHO.

He is what he is. Not sure how the start of this season changed your view of him at all

My opinion does not qualify as "an extreme take."

The sample size is not small 

23 ABs and we're 7 days into the season....

Troublesome, worrisome, frustrating - all of the above. But what else is new?

Sano's career in a nutshell has been marked by long, deep hitting slumps followed by short bursts of amazing power and skill. He's not 21 anymore, he's not even 24. The guy's 27 and this is who he is. His home runs are incredibly noteworthy, but so are his strikeout numbers. This spring he batted .159 with a 50% strikeout rate, he's basically not made any improvements on that so far this year.

He's fallen to batting in the 6th and 7th spots, respectively. Yesterday he was batting 7th against a lefty - I think that tells you all you need to know.

Concerning for sure.

He is what he is. Not sure how the start of this season changed your view of him at all

AZ - while I agree with this comment in general, the article had this quote "He showed a lot of potential in 2019 that made us think 2021 should be a bounce-back season."

I don't know who "us" is, but I believe that is at the crux of the posters angst.

Many of "us" are more realistic about Sano - that being he does hit some majestic HRs but the majority of time he can not be trusted at the plate, and if he hasn't figured it out at this point in his career, he never will....

No, this is not a small sample size.  Most of us thought something of Cruz had rubbed off on Sano after the 2019 Bomba squad but even in 2019 there were HUGE holes in his swing.  I was pushing all off-season for a trade of Sano.  I liked Colorado as a possible landing spot due to the temptation of his power---then they signed Cron.

He will always be a rally killer with his strikeouts.  It's not really a decision between Kepler and Sano at all.  Sano will be gone in 2021, possibly 2022.  Kiriloff, Larnach, Rooker and Sabato give the Twins plenty of BETTER options than Sano.  The sooner the Twins make a change, the better.

Have to agree with the anti-Sano crowd.  He's had enough time to prove himself.  These type of all or nothing types do little to help the team.  As things stand now, we have maybe three consistent hitters - Cruz,  Arraez, and Donaldson(if he ever stays healthy).  Simmons looks like he could join this list, but a little early.  I'm not writing Polanco off yet but his falloff from the first half of 2019 is cause for concern.

To bolster this team's ability to have a balanced lineup, I would like to see Armadillo play 1B, at least enough to see how he fields the position.  This man can just hit and should be in the lineup every day.  Rooker is more Sano-like and should not.  I believe Arraez should be playing every day and when not filling in at 3B, should be playing LF until Kirillof or Larnach prove they're ready(I like Garlick as a backup if the rooks don't make it).  When/if that happens, time to consider trading Polanco, allowing Arraez to return to 2B.  This team needs their best contact hitters in the L/U every day!

Can we appreciate Sano for what he is? A guy that will have a lot of strikeouts, low average, but a lot of home runs and good OPS. That’s still a solid player. It’s almost like you guys expect him to be a hall of Famer which is unfair expectations. I remember riding back from Beloit when he was down there. I told my buddy that Rosario would be more valuable player if he stuck at 2B. Well he didn’t stick but my initial valuation was a lot closer than anyone expected. He is still a fine player but he is what he is. He will have some hot streaks and we will be glad to have him. If you are expecting Barry Bonds out there, then sorry.

"When/if that happens, time to consider trading Polanco"

I see Polanco bouncing back from last year, but even if he never matches his best stretches, this team needs depth. I would not trade Polanco at this point especially considering his contact. Now if Lewis and another infielder emerge, then trade Polanco and his contact would be an asset in that situation.

"When/if that happens, time to consider trading Polanco" I see Polanco bouncing back from last year, but even if he never matches his best stretches, this team needs depth. I would not trade Polanco at this point especially considering his contact. Now if Lewis and another infielder emerge, then trade Polanco and his contact would be an asset in that situation.

Exactly.  Polanco is not the type of player you trade.  He is on a team friendly deal and a good 2B.  He also offers positional flexibility at SS and bottom line is a good player.  There's not a player in the Twins org that could replace him.  If you attempted to do so, we would have more stop gap career minor leaguers attempting to do so.  Makes no sense when we have a solid core.

I know that Sano usually starts off each season slow, but his performance thus far has definitely been alarming. He looks lost up there at the plate, taking close pitches with 2 strikes and hoping to draw a walk.

How is this the same hitter who tore up the league in 2015??

No, this is not a small sample size.  Most of us thought something of Cruz had rubbed off on Sano after the 2019 Bomba squad but even in 2019 there were HUGE holes in his swing.  I was pushing all off-season for a trade of Sano.  I liked Colorado as a possible landing spot due to the temptation of his power---then they signed Cron.

He will always be a rally killer with his strikeouts.  It's not really a decision between Kepler and Sano at all.  Sano will be gone in 2021, possibly 2022.  Kiriloff, Larnach, Rooker and Sabato give the Twins plenty of BETTER options than Sano.  The sooner the Twins make a change, the better.

I agree.  I think a trade would be beneficial at some point to free up the spot at 1st or permanently move him to DH.  it is what it is.

Can we appreciate Sano for what he is? A guy that will have a lot of strikeouts, low average, but a lot of home runs and good OPS. That’s still a solid player. It’s almost like you guys expect him to be a hall of Famer which is unfair expectations. I remember riding back from Beloit when he was down there. I told my buddy that Rosario would be more valuable player if he stuck at 2B. Well he didn’t stick but my initial valuation was a lot closer than anyone expected. He is still a fine player but he is what he is. He will have some hot streaks and we will be glad to have him. If you are expecting Barry Bonds out there, then sorry.

Well see where he ends up OPS and OBP % wise. 

He always starts slow. 

Good thing he is not being asked to carry the offense.  He is hitting down in the order.  It is not like we are asking that he be the number one offensive guy.  Hopefully he can pick it up, but saying we are in trouble because our normal number 6 or 7 hitter is not doing well is going a little far.  

I have never been a Sano fan. I realize "if" he does hit the ball it can travel a mile. But that seems like a big "if". He strikes out far too much for the little gain you get. 40 home runs is a lot if he gets there, but is it worth all the outs he makes and the questionable defense? I know there is the worry that he will be another David Ortiz. We gave up on one and don't want to give up on another. But Sano has never shown he can be a consistent contributor. I also realize his trade value is low at this point. BUT the organization should keep their eyes open. We have many young prospects in the organization that could take over first base today and contribute at least as much as what Sano is doing.