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Royce Lewis has long been one of the more fascinating (and frustrating) players not just on the Twins’ roster, but in all of Major League Baseball. When he’s right, Lewis looks like an All-Star-caliber player. The power is obvious, the athleticism is obvious, and there are stretches where he looks capable of taking over games in a way very few players across the entire league can. The problem has been finding that version of Lewis consistently enough. 

That inconsistency has been on full display again this season, but perhaps the most encouraging development for the Twins is that Lewis appears to be trending in the right direction at exactly the right time. On the season as a whole, Lewis is hitting .239 with a .313 on-base percentage and a .739 OPS. Those are fine numbers on their own, but they don’t exactly jump off the page. More importantly, they fail to capture just how dramatically his season has changed over the past few weeks.

For much of the first half, Lewis was struggling. Prior to the All-Star break, he hit just .219 with an on-base percentage below .300 and an OPS below .700. His 94 wRC+ further underscored those struggles, putting him below league average offensively. Eventually, things deteriorated to the point where the Twins optioned Lewis to Triple-A. That obviously wasn’t what the team had hoped to see, but the demotion may have ultimately served as something of a reset. And since the All-Star break in particular, the difference has been striking.

Across 22 games, Lewis is hitting .293 with a .359 on-base percentage and an .859 OPS. He has recorded 10 extra-base hits and five stolen bases during that span, showcasing the well-rounded skill set that has always made him such an intriguing player. His 136 wRC+ since the All-Star break may be the most telling number of all. Lewis hasn’t simply been hitting for a decent average during this stretch. He has been well above league average offensively, and he’s been impacting the game in multiple ways.

That matters because the version of Lewis the Twins need down the stretch isn’t necessarily the player who hits 30-plus home runs or produces at an MVP level for an extended period. They simply need the player who can consistently put pressure on opposing teams. When Lewis is seeing the ball well, his power changes the way pitchers have to attack him, and his speed gives him another way to create offense once he reaches base. That combination is what gives him such a high ceiling. It’s also why his recent surge is particularly meaningful for a Twins team that remains firmly within striking distance of the postseason.

Despite coming off of a disappointing series in Milwaukee, Minnesota came into the week just four games back in the American League Central and 1.5 games behind the final American League Wild Card spot. There’s obviously plenty of work left to do, and the Twins have little margin for error. But they’re close enough that a strong final month-and-a-half could completely change the outlook of their season. And if that happens, Lewis is going to have to be part of it.

The Twins’ offense, especially without Byron Buxton, has been needing some players to step up. Lewis provides a different dimension when he’s playing at his best. There is a ceiling to this lineup that simply isn’t there when he is struggling to make consistent contact or get on base. That’s what makes his current stretch so encouraging.

It would be misguided to assume that Lewis is suddenly going to maintain an .850 OPS for the remainder of the season. His track record suggests there will be some ups and downs along the way, and another cold stretch would hardly be surprising. The goal should be consistency, not perfection. If Lewis can settle somewhere around a high-.700s to low-.800s OPS over the remainder of the regular season, that would be a meaningful contribution to a Twins lineup trying to fight its way into October. And if he can do more than that, Minnesota could have something even more valuable.

His streakiness can be a gift and a curse. Right now, though, it's working in the Twins’ favor. Lewis is playing his best baseball of the season while Minnesota is trying to make up ground in a crowded American League playoff race. That doesn’t guarantee anything, but it gives the Twins something they desperately need: another potentially dynamic bat playing at a high level.

There is still a long way to go. The Twins will need better pitching, more consistent production throughout the lineup, a healthier roster, and plenty of other things to break their way if they are going to make a legitimate push for October. But Lewis doesn’t need to carry the entire team; he needs to continue being the player he has been over these last few weeks.

If he can do that, the Twins suddenly have a much more dangerous lineup than they did earlier in the season, especially if Buxton returns in the coming days. And perhaps most importantly, they have a player who is starting to look like the version of Royce Lewis everyone knew was still somewhere in there. For a Twins team still fighting for its season, the timing couldn’t be much better.


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What I struggle with is many of his plate appearances continuing to be so egregiously bad. Still seems like a lot of guesswork up there even when he's swinging well. Lewis has a 1.025 OPS in his last 12 games but a 15-to-1 K/BB ratio.

As Sam notes in the article, the Twins don't need Lewis to necessarily keep up at this rate, but they can't have him go back in the tank. That kind of plate discipline lends itself to extended slumps.

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Too much hyperbole in describing Royce’s abilities. He has legit power and he is running better which is good to see. He’s always been streaky so I am more than willing to wait until the end of the season and see how he ends up. 

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12 minutes ago, Nick Nelson said:

What I struggle with is many of his plate appearances continuing to be so egregiously bad. Still seems like a lot of guesswork up there even when he's swinging well. Lewis has a 1.025 OPS in his last 12 games but a 15-to-1 K/BB ratio.

As Sam notes in the article, the Twins don't need Lewis to necessarily keep up at this rate, but they can't have him go back in the tank. That kind of plate discipline lends itself to extended slumps.

Royce seems to go in the tank when the team as a whole goes in the tank, and he lights up the box score when the team is playing well. One could argue if there is a correlation, but history suggests that if he goes in the tank again, that means the team has already folded up shop for the year and it won't matter.

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The power is obvious, yes.  Due to multiple injuries the athleticism is largely a thing of the past, unfortunately.  Average speed, average arm, range rated as downright poor at Baseball Savant, although that may be due to learning new positions.  He's unfortunately pretty much a 1-tool player now, although if you are going to have a tool the power is a good one to have.

I'm rooting for him, and his bat is badly needed, but I'll be stunned if he ever becomes a dominant player or "star".  Solid everyday player seems likely to be his career path... and that too has value.

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28 minutes ago, Nick Nelson said:

What I struggle with is many of his plate appearances continuing to be so egregiously bad. Still seems like a lot of guesswork up there even when he's swinging well. Lewis has a 1.025 OPS in his last 12 games but a 15-to-1 K/BB ratio.

As Sam notes in the article, the Twins don't need Lewis to necessarily keep up at this rate, but they can't have him go back in the tank. That kind of plate discipline lends itself to extended slumps.

His plate discipline has looked better since coming back.  June and July was just over 2 to 1 K/BB.  The last 4 games he has struggled, of course one was against the Mis who makes many struggle.  I was encouraged last night, his first two at bats did not look good, but his last two, he looked like he was tracking the ball better and taking better swings.  It seemed like he was making some in game adjustments which he hasn't always done.

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If I remember correctly, he doesn't do slumps so I guess he will maintain this pace.  

I feel like this is a companion piece to the Ryan article.  Ryan great first half, bad second, Royce bad first half, great second half,  

And then there is Wallner who fails two seasons in a row in the first half a season, goes to AAA and goes crazy, but we won't bring him up this time. 

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I guess the move to 1st base was what he needed. Will he also try his hand @ 2nd base next year? Playing like he was a former 1st overall draft pick. We don't need more cowbell we need more Lewis.

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I am not sure if anyone gets as much scrutiny from at bat to at bat as Royce.  I get that he has struggled and made comments that I wish he would have kept to himself.  And I am still a believer in him, and as the article states he is one of the few players on this team that can take a game over by himself.  I would hope we would want somebody like that on our team.  If he can put some consistency together, he will be a contributor and maybe more on a winning team.

But it feels almost like people are waiting for him to fail.  On the game thread on Sunday, one at bat, he actually had timed up a couple of fastballs from Mis, so Mis threw his first slider and it was a filthy pitch to strike him out.  I am not sure many hitters could have laid off that pitch.  The comments that Mis broke him or that he was back to his old habits were not reasonable in my opinion.  Even last night his first two at bat's he didn't look good, and the comments came again the Mis has broken him.  The last two at bats he looked better..  

I know everyone has their opinion and it is not wrong.  But I would urge to give him some credit. he has been one of our best hitters the last two months and has had a key at bat in many of our recent wins.

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Nothing to do with first vs. second half. Lewis came up and was immediately effective after his recall on 6/6.

6/6-7/12 = .266/.328/.500 OPS .828 wRC+ 129, 8.8% BB, 23.4% K
7/17-8/10 = .293/.359/.500 OPS .859 wRC+ 136, 8.7% BB, 21.7% K

June = .279/.330/.512 OPS .842 wRC+ 132. 7.4% BB, 22.3% K, .311 BABIP
July = .217/.313/.410 OPS .743 wRC+ 99, 12.5% BB, 20.8% K, .246 BABIP
August = .405/.436/.676 OPS 1.112 wRC+ 213, 2.6% BB, 28.2% K, .542 BABIP

He's been pretty consistently hitting balls well and producing.

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21 minutes ago, PuckettPond said:

I guess the move to 1st base was what he needed. Will he also try his hand @ 2nd base next year? Playing like he was a former 1st overall draft pick. We don't need more cowbell we need more Lewis.

He needs to be given one position and right now it should be 1B or else move him back to third.  He is not a utility player.

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Throughout his career at the MLB level Lewis has just shown flashes but then has effectively be a subpar hitter the majority of the rest of the time.  His April and May were atrocious.  In 11 games in May he had a -7 OPS+.  I don't think I have ever seen a negative number before.  He had lost all confidence and approach at the plate.   He was sent down and I think most felt this was likely the end of the career.  

He started off a little slow in AAA then he seemed to have accepted his situation and for the first time in a few years started to change his approach at the plate.  He tried to adjust his mechanics last year then said he reverted back and complained about it stating its too hard to change during the year.  However he did start to change.  1st being more aggressive early in the count.  When getting to a deeper count and in general he has started to drive the outside pitch away.   Early in the year and last year,  pitchers were almost exclusively pitching him away outside the zone.  All Royce was doing was striking out or creating weak contact trying to pull it.  Now he has been more aggressive early in counts but he has done something strategically different.  He 1. Is not swinging at as many balls outside the zone forcing pitchers to come middle and in more.  2.  When it is outside he is going away and driving the ball.  Home Runs, doubles ect.   He then started drilling the inside pitches, that when the few mistakes occurred earlier in the season he was whiffing on as well.  He hit really well in AAA came back to the big leagues and seems to keep improving as time has gone on.   

He has completely transformed during the season,  and its all because of Royce.   His confidence is back as well.   His bat can be one of the few difference makers currently in this lineup.   

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31 minutes ago, mikelink45 said:

If I remember correctly, he doesn't do slumps so I guess he will maintain this pace.  

I feel like this is a companion piece to the Ryan article.  Ryan great first half, bad second, Royce bad first half, great second half,  

And then there is Wallner who fails two seasons in a row in the first half a season, goes to AAA and goes crazy, but we won't bring him up this time. 

Can't bring Wallner up because he can't play in the field and we actually have a competent DH. I like the guy and hope he gets a chance but I think it will have to be with another organization. 

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22 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

But it feels almost like people are waiting for him to fail. 

 

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

He has completely transformed during the season,  and its all because of Royce.   His confidence is back as well.   His bat can be one of the few difference makers currently in this lineup.

I couldn't agree more. For some reason I can't understand, a lot of people here seem to root for Lewis to fail. Maybe his sense of humor falls flat and I'm just more used to it being in California. The "I don't do slumps" comment was in jest, as is a lot of what he says. And we wonder why some many athletes won't talk to the press or only speak in meaningless platitudes. I lot of folks also seem to want Keaschall to forever be branded as a bad defender only a DH, Martin as overrated or dumb, all Pohlads are the same and Tom is just a cheap SOB, etc. I can be just as bad because I keep saying how Wallner has little value to a competitive ballclub. C'mon now, Baseball is supposed to be fun to follow and this team is a lot more fun than last year. I'm enjoying this season. I just don't get the negativity.   

Bottom line, I think if this team makes the playoffs and wins a round (their ceiling IMHO), it will be in large part because of contributions by Lewis and Keaschall. I'm glad to see Lewis turn it around and I think he has a high ceiling. Who knows if he'll ever reach it but I'm rooting for him. 

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45 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

I am not sure if anyone gets as much scrutiny from at bat to at bat as Royce.  I get that he has struggled and made comments that I wish he would have kept to himself.  And I am still a believer in him, and as the article states he is one of the few players on this team that can take a game over by himself.  I would hope we would want somebody like that on our team.  If he can put some consistency together, he will be a contributor and maybe more on a winning team.

But it feels almost like people are waiting for him to fail.  On the game thread on Sunday, one at bat, he actually had timed up a couple of fastballs from Mis, so Mis threw his first slider and it was a filthy pitch to strike him out.  I am not sure many hitters could have laid off that pitch.  The comments that Mis broke him or that he was back to his old habits were not reasonable in my opinion.  Even last night his first two at bat's he didn't look good, and the comments came again the Mis has broken him.  The last two at bats he looked better..  

I know everyone has their opinion and it is not wrong.  But I would urge to give him some credit. he has been one of our best hitters the last two months and has had a key at bat in many of our recent wins.

Respectfully as I perceive him to be your favorite player I think Buck and Lee get similar scrutiny. Being high draft picks almost guarantees it. Jenkins will receive the same treatment as soon as he is in the bigs and struggles. I think articles that are hyperbolic about his Royce’s upside create some of this. It’s impossible for him to live up to it and I cringe every time another writer does it. He is doing better on pitches on the outer half - hopefully he can maintain the patience to lay off or go the other way enough to get pitchers to come back inside. As far as people wanting him to fail I doubt it, maybe a few. I guess I can only speak for me and I want every Twin player to succeed which is also not incompatible with observing things they do well or not well. 

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1 minute ago, LA Vikes Fan said:

 

I couldn't agree more. For some reason I can't understand, a lot of people here seem to root for Lewis to fail. Maybe his sense of humor falls flat and I'm just more used to it being in California. The "I don't do slumps" comment was in jest, as is a lot of what he says. And we wonder why some many athletes won't talk to the press or only speak in meaningless platitudes. I lot of folks also seem to want Keaschall to forever be branded as a bad defender only a DH, Martin as overrated or dumb, all Pohlads are the same and Tom is just a cheap SOB, etc. I can be just as bad because I keep saying how Wallner has little value to a competitive ballclub. C'mon now, Baseball is supposed to be fun to follow and this team is a lot more fun than last year. I'm enjoying this season. I just don't get the negativity.   

Bottom line, I think if this team makes the playoffs and wins a round (their ceiling IMHO), it will be in large part because of contributions by Lewis and Keaschall. I'm glad to see Lewis turn it around and I think he has a high ceiling. Who knows if he'll ever reach it but I'm rooting for him. 

I agree with everything you said.  My negativity is when people fall in love with the 13th man on the roster.  Yes they have a role and there are going to be times they will contribute to a win.  But you are going to win consistently with players like Keaschall and Lewis.

The other comment about Lewis, they gave a fun fact at a game I was at earlier in the year, he played in two showcase all star games before he was drafted and was named MVP of both games.  It's not that he was named MVP, but he showed up big in that environment, he has an it factor about him.  That is why I want him to be successful because other than Buxton no one else has that on this team.

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1 minute ago, LA Vikes Fan said:

 

I couldn't agree more. For some reason I can't understand, a lot of people here seem to root for Lewis to fail. Maybe his sense of humor falls flat and I'm just more used to it being in California. The "I don't do slumps" comment was in jest, as is a lot of what he says. And we wonder why some many athletes won't talk to the press or only speak in meaningless platitudes. I lot of folks also seem to want Keaschall to forever be branded as a bad defender only a DH, Martin as overrated or dumb, all Pohlads are the same and Tom is just a cheap SOB, etc. I can be just as bad because I keep saying how Wallner has little value to a competitive ballclub. C'mon now, Baseball is supposed to be fun to follow and this team is a lot more fun than last year. I'm enjoying this season. I just don't get the negativity.   

Bottom line, I think if this team makes the playoffs and wins a round (their ceiling IMHO), it will be in large part because of contributions by Lewis and Keaschall. I'm glad to see Lewis turn it around and I think he has a high ceiling. Who knows if he'll ever reach it but I'm rooting for him. 

Personally for me Royce felt entitled,  and that he was going to do things his way.   I really think Correa was a really bad influence on him - but I have discussed that before and it likely goes no where.   This very much feels like an equivalent to Bradley with Tampa Bay except Royce's value had declined much more.   I think the organization tried everything they could to try to get him back on track.  Royce would make some odd off the cuff statements similar to Bradley and neither seemed interested in changing and both's performance collapsed.  So I wasn't rooting for him to fail,  I will always cheer for my Twins to succeed but I have stated for 2 years what his issues were and it continued to become more and more pronounced each year and I expected him to fail unless he was willing to change his approach.  You can't pull an outside pitch consistently.  That all he was seeing and the few mistakes he was whiffing on as well.    The difference was whether being demoted or Shelton getting through to him it appears he realized he had to change or he may no longer have a career in the MLB.  Once he accepted that,  he started producing more,  and having more confidence.   

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3 minutes ago, Linus said:

Respectfully as I perceive him to be your favorite player I think Buck and Lee get similar scrutiny. Being high draft picks almost guarantees it. Jenkins will receive the same treatment as soon as he is in the bigs and struggles. I think articles that are hyperbolic about his Royce’s upside create some of this. It’s impossible for him to live up to it and I cringe every time another writer does it. He is doing better on pitches on the outer half - hopefully he can maintain the patience to lay off or go the other way enough to get pitchers to come back inside. 

You are absolutely correct about being a high pick and the scrutiny that comes with it.  But it feels different to me with Lewis, but I will admit I am a believer in him so I do pick up on it.  It is more the doomsday comments after one at bat that probably frustrate me the most.  I don't see that as much with Lee and Buxton.

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2 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

You are absolutely correct about being a high pick and the scrutiny that comes with it.  But it feels different to me with Lewis, but I will admit I am a believer in him so I do pick up on it.  It is more the doomsday comments after one at bat that probably frustrate me the most.  I don't see that as much with Lee and Buxton.

You might be right about Lee but Buck gets it like crazy. I don’t pay attention to people that think one at bat or one game means anything.  There is an old baseball saying that any player can be anything (good or bad) for forty games and I think there is a lot of truth there 

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

Personally for me Royce felt entitled,  and that he was going to do things his way. 

I think there is a fine line between tweaking someone's batting approach vs. completely changing it.  And we have heard Martin and Lee voice the same concerns that they went back to what worked for them.  This actually goes all the way back to Buxton, his first few years, he was constantly changing his stance and he was not always on board with what the Twins wanted him to do.

Now I don't have the technical expertise or enough information to know how much of this is a player not wanting to change or is the team not always doing the best for the player and more worried about the system or process.

This is one reason though I think they need new leadership at least above Zoll in the baseball operations and do a critical evaluation of how they are developing their players, training and everything in between.  I do have concerns there may be group think going on with basically the same group in place for the last 10 years.  It never hurts to have a critical evaluation and improve if needed.

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Lewis has something of a long swing, which puts him in the position of having to begin his movement earlier than most batters. This causes him at times to look like he is lunging and off-balance. 

It also causes a lot of swing and miss.

But this long swing is a source of power that he demonstrates fairly consistently. He can really punish the ball. 

There is always room for improvement and growth, but on the whole what the Twins are getting from Lewis is pretty decent.

Unmet expectations are a primary source of unhappiness. Lewis had a lot of hype driving up people's expectations and fostering disappointment which at times seems a bit unfair.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

I think there is a fine line between tweaking someone's batting approach vs. completely changing it.  And we have heard Martin and Lee voice the same concerns that they went back to what worked for them.  This actually goes all the way back to Buxton, his first few years, he was constantly changing his stance and he was not always on board with what the Twins wanted him to do.

Now I don't have the technical expertise or enough information to know how much of this is a player not wanting to change or is the team not always doing the best for the player and more worried about the system or process.

This is one reason though I think they need new leadership at least above Zoll in the baseball operations and do a critical evaluation of how they are developing their players, training and everything in between.  I do have concerns there may be group think going on with basically the same group in place for the last 10 years.  It never hurts to have a critical evaluation and improve if needed.

He came out last year and it said he wasn't changing his approach even though the staff asked him to because it would mess with his counting stats.  The implication was he would do it in the offseason.  Guess what he said he made zero changes and was going to continue doing the same thing this year.  

“It’s also hard to make a full in-season adjustment because you can try that, and those 30 games or at-bats of trial go toward your stats,” Lewis said. “Do you really want to sacrifice that? And if it doesn’t work, then you go back to what you were doing before. It’s always hard. I know (Michael) Harris (II) just did a significant change. Being under contract probably helps because he knows what he’s making that year and the year after. For someone like me, I’m fighting (to take) care of myself and my family. I don’t want to put any of those stats in jeopardy. I’m trying to do what’s best as fast as possible. But feeling like I’ve been on an island, it’s kind of tough.”   -  Lewis Last August 2025

He then went outside the organization to Isenhower,  not changing his mechanics but trying to work on his timing.  It didn't work as he had an atrocious spring training and it continued in April in May.  His opinion was pretty clear he was going to take his own instruction not from the Twins.  This is the bad influence which I think Correa infected in the organization.   Thats not to take away from Correa.   

Then after the demotion he finally made some adjustments and went back to a high Kick that he had used all the way through 2021 rather than a double toe tap.  https://www.si.com/mlb/twins/onsi/twins-royce-lewis-unlocked-swing-one-quiet-adjustment    So what's changed? For starters, it appears Lewis made a notable mechanical adjustment to his swing. While he's always had a small leg kick when he plants his front leg, that leg kick is now much larger.  

 

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15 minutes ago, Hawkeye Bean Counter said:

He came out last year and it said he wasn't changing his approach even though the staff asked him to because it would mess with his counting stats.  The implication was he would do it in the offseason.  Guess what he said he made zero changes and was going to continue doing the same thing this year.  

“It’s also hard to make a full in-season adjustment because you can try that, and those 30 games or at-bats of trial go toward your stats,” Lewis said. “Do you really want to sacrifice that? And if it doesn’t work, then you go back to what you were doing before. It’s always hard. I know (Michael) Harris (II) just did a significant change. Being under contract probably helps because he knows what he’s making that year and the year after. For someone like me, I’m fighting (to take) care of myself and my family. I don’t want to put any of those stats in jeopardy. I’m trying to do what’s best as fast as possible. But feeling like I’ve been on an island, it’s kind of tough.”   -  Lewis Last August 2025

He then went outside the organization to Isenhower,  not changing his mechanics but trying to work on his timing.  It didn't work as he had an atrocious spring training and it continued in April in May.  His opinion was pretty clear he was going to take his own instruction not from the Twins.  This is the bad influence which I think Correa infected in the organization.   Thats not to take away from Correa.   

Then after the demotion he finally made some adjustments and went back to a high Kick that he had used all the way through 2021 rather than a toe tap.  https://www.si.com/mlb/twins/onsi/twins-royce-lewis-unlocked-swing-one-quiet-adjustment    So what's changed? For starters, it appears Lewis made a notable mechanical adjustment to his swing. While he's always had a small leg kick when he plants his front leg, that leg kick is now much larger.  

 

We aren't going agree on this, I remember his comments.  But I think there is more going than we are aware and that is why I pointed to other examples.  He actually went to his leg kick after talking to his dad and agent, to me that is what he was comfortable but I am assuming the Twins were trying something different.

Again both you and I don't know what is going on in the clubhouse and the field before games but if I was Tom P. I would want to know if there is a disconnect somewhere.  Because it is not just about Lewis.

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12 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

We aren't going agree on this, I remember his comments.  But I think there is more going than we are aware and that is why I pointed to other examples.  He actually went to his leg kick after talking to his dad and agent, to me that is what he was comfortable but I am assuming the Twins were trying something different.

Again both you and I don't know what is going on in the clubhouse and the field before games but if I was Tom P. I would want to know if there is a disconnect somewhere.  Because it is not just about Lewis.

To me it was Correa.   You had Lewis and Jose Miranda who Correa took under his wing.   Last year Paddack and Jax were very much doing their own thing.   I think it was an issue from the top down including the coaching.  They went too far trying to change everyone's approach thinking the cookie cutter approach of 2019 was going to work for everyone.  The only one to defy that approach was Arraez.  There was then kickback and you had voices like Correa who has gotten by doing things his way and he is not bashful about it.   His opinion was clear that players are effectively smarter than organizations and that you need to worry about yourself and not the team goals because you are the only way you are getting paid.  It almost matches up entirely with Royce's statement from last year.  

You are correct that Lewis did make a change after the Twins demoted him and he took the 72 hours to fly back home and his dad and Boras said maybe to go back to the kick.  The Twins have told him some things he needed to change.  

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@HarmonK03 after thinking some more I think we are more aligned on this topic than you think. You said Tom needed to get to the bottom of it - I think he has. Say what you will I have openly stated my concerns with Tom but there has been a divide between players and coaching:management/ownership since right sizing in 2023. Each party was doing what they felt was in their best interest. From the top down. So everything became individually oriented than team oriented. What I’ve given Tom credit for is opening up lines of communication again and regaining some trust. Coaching has drastically improved and simple things such as bunting are gradually coming back to the organization. You need to work on it throughout the season not just expect to be able to do it in the playoffs. Lastly the team dynamic is the best it’s been in years. That has value. The game is more than just home runs exit velocity and spin rates in pitching. Shelton appears to be melding old school and analytics quite well. 

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2 hours ago, HarmonK03 said:

I am not sure if anyone gets as much scrutiny from at bat to at bat as Royce.  I get that he has struggled and made comments that I wish he would have kept to himself.  And I am still a believer in him, and as the article states he is one of the few players on this team that can take a game over by himself.  I would hope we would want somebody like that on our team.  If he can put some consistency together, he will be a contributor and maybe more on a winning team.

But it feels almost like people are waiting for him to fail.  On the game thread on Sunday, one at bat, he actually had timed up a couple of fastballs from Mis, so Mis threw his first slider and it was a filthy pitch to strike him out.  I am not sure many hitters could have laid off that pitch.  The comments that Mis broke him or that he was back to his old habits were not reasonable in my opinion.  Even last night his first two at bat's he didn't look good, and the comments came again the Mis has broken him.  The last two at bats he looked better..  

I know everyone has their opinion and it is not wrong.  But I would urge to give him some credit. he has been one of our best hitters the last two months and has had a key at bat in many of our recent wins.

We need a confident competent 23 to be at our full effectiveness. I hope he succeeds because of this and also because he's a genuinely likeable guy. Is it unfair that I also see him as a fragile guy who's a couple crummy games aways from regressing? Experience says it will happen so I (and others) are keenly looking for the songs of it, not to dig on the guy but just to be ready (that is, to temper our expectations since we aren't the manager)

I want him to thrive. For a guy whose slumps seem more mental as opposed to physical (yes, no one but him knows for sure) it's something to watch for closely and always will be. For me anyway.

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