The Core Conundrum: Twins Hitters Are Trending Downward Across the Roster

[old nurse]

19 hours ago, KBJ1 said:

Flotsam on a 40 man roster should consist of no more than 3-5 players.

One could argue that 50% of the Twins 40 man is flotsam, including the entire bullpen.

 

Yup, by picking cherries one could make the argument tto get rid of every player 

[Riverbrian]

9 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

You don't get better when your best players play for other teams

I think it's a case of fans not feeling like the team is better. 

On the field it can be a different story. Surprising how often it's a different story. There are no guarantees in anything. 

When the Red Sox traded Devers to the Giants. The Giants were 41-30 and the Red Sox were 36-36. 

After the trade: The Giants were 40-51 and the Red Sox were 56-37. 

[old nurse]

13 hours ago, RpR said:

Looking at this I would say the collapse started in June.

 

The collapse started when Lopez went down and Ober pitched injured and the Twins did not have the caliber of backups to replace a Cy Young contending pitcher and one that was touted as such on this site. 

[NYCTK]

2 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

I can cite countless examples.  Bert Blylevin traded to the Rangers.  Rod Carew traded to the Rangers.  Johan Santana to the Mets.  I won't even bring up Lou Brock.  How about Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas.  I'll even cross sports.  KG.  Randy Moss.  Trading your stars just makes your team unwatchable.  Pass.

Oh alright, and you enjoyed watching the 2025 Twins? Because I sure didn't. 

[USAFChief]

2 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

I can cite countless examples.  Bert Blylevin traded to the Rangers.  Rod Carew traded to the Rangers.  Johan Santana to the Mets.  I won't even bring up Lou Brock.  How about Frank Robinson for Milt Pappas.  I'll even cross sports.  KG.  Randy Moss.  Trading your stars just makes your team unwatchable.  Pass.

When was this? Today??

[mluebker]

On 10/20/2025 at 9:00 AM, old nurse said:

Sounds like someone is attributing opinions to someone without them ever being expressed by the person 

Sounds like I stated my opinion, not anyone else's. Sorry that bothers you.

[Teflon]

This article should have a Mental Health Support Hotline number at the end.😒(my first emoji on Twins Daily)

[Craig Arko]

7 minutes ago, Teflon said:

This article should have a Mental Health Support Hotline number at the end.😒(my first emoji on Twins Daily)

867-5309.

[Teflon]

4 minutes ago, Craig Arko said:

867-5309.

Tommy Tutone, like many of the Twins prospects, is a one-hit wonder.

[Nshore]

Iceberg dead ahead!!!

[Mike Sixel]

That's quite the list of players teh FO has put together. Just a terrible job, and yet Flavey still has one.

[old nurse]

35 minutes ago, mluebker said:

Sounds like I stated my opinion, not anyone else's. Sorry that bothers you.

You stating that this was not a dream team would be your opinion  Saying that Falvey’s  opinion was that  this was a dream team is inventing attributes to rip on people for what they did not say.  

[TheLeviathan]

Development and adjustments are a major problem for this team and have been for the entire Falvey regime.

[dxpavelka]

15 hours ago, mikelink45 said:

That is easy to say, but all 30 teams are building BPs and the track record says it is not that easy except in theory.  What we need is what the Dodgers did last series - let the SP go deep and even a full nine once in a while. 

the days of SPs going deep or a full nine more than once in a blue moon are long gone.  sadly

[dxpavelka]

14 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

I think it's a case of fans not feeling like the team is better. 

On the field it can be a different story. Surprising how often it's a different story. There are no guarantees in anything. 

When the Red Sox traded Devers to the Giants. The Giants were 41-30 and the Red Sox were 36-36. 

After the trade: The Giants were 40-51 and the Red Sox were 56-37. 

how'd it work out for the twins

[dxpavelka]

14 hours ago, NYCTK said:

Oh alright, and you enjoyed watching the 2025 Twins? Because I sure didn't. 

I JUST said you don't get better by trading your good players.  Do you not understand?

[Riverbrian]

6 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

how'd it work out for the twins

The Devers trade was a disaster for the Twins. 

Minnesota was 36-34 before Devers being traded to the Giants. They went 34-58 after the deal. 

 

[mikelink45]

7 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

the days of SPs going deep or a full nine more than once in a blue moon are long gone.  sadly

A few years ago we said that about stolen bases.  The Dodgers just completed their last series with Snell going 8 in game one, Yamamato going 9 in game 2, Glasnow 5.2 in game three and Ohtani going 6 in game 4.  Baseball is a copycat league and the Dodgers might have triggered a new trend.

[dxpavelka]

1 hour ago, Riverbrian said:

The Devers trade was a disaster for the Twins. 

Minnesota was 36-34 before Devers being traded to the Giants. They went 34-58 after the deal. 

 

see

[dxpavelka]

13 minutes ago, mikelink45 said:

A few years ago we said that about stolen bases.  The Dodgers just completed their last series with Snell going 8 in game one, Yamamato going 9 in game 2, Glasnow 5.2 in game three and Ohtani going 6 in game 4.  Baseball is a copycat league and the Dodgers might have triggered a new trend.

care to put a few sawbucks on that?

 

[NYCTK]

10 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

I JUST said you don't get better by trading your good players.  Do you not understand?

But then we discussed that it actually happens often, especially in baseball. So...I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. 

[Coach Wheels]

On 10/20/2025 at 11:20 AM, RpR said:

Lurch at First -  the spirit of Sano.

I'd like to think he'd be fine at 1st base. He's an average to slightly below average RF in my opinion

[mluebker]

On 10/21/2025 at 11:37 AM, old nurse said:

You stating that this was not a dream team would be your opinion  Saying that Falvey’s  opinion was that  this was a dream team is inventing attributes to rip on people for what they did not say.

Sounds like maybe you need a refresher on the meaning of “sounds like” (speculative, an opinion) and “is” (stating a fact).

[old nurse]

50 minutes ago, mluebker said:

Sounds like maybe you need a refresher on the meaning of “sounds like” (speculative, an opinion) and “is” (stating a fact).

Coming from the person that initiated the sounds like phrase, your comment is pretty funny. 

[RpR]

1 hour ago, Coach Wheels said:

I'd like to think he'd be fine at 1st base. He's an average to slightly below average RF in my opinion

Slow and awkward.

[Mike Sixel]

9 hours ago, mikelink45 said:

A few years ago we said that about stolen bases.  The Dodgers just completed their last series with Snell going 8 in game one, Yamamato going 9 in game 2, Glasnow 5.2 in game three and Ohtani going 6 in game 4.  Baseball is a copycat league and the Dodgers might have triggered a new trend.

I'll take that bet. Those are all top pitchers....you want anyone outside Ryan or Lopez going more than 6 innings on this staff? And this is a decent staff compared to many.....

[mluebker]

6 hours ago, old nurse said:

Coming from the person that initiated the sounds like phrase, your comment is pretty funny. 

Glad you appreciate it. And much as I’d like to think I originated that particular turn of phrase, I’m pretty sure I’m not the first one to use it.

[dxpavelka]

20 hours ago, NYCTK said:

But then we discussed that it actually happens often, especially in baseball. So...I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. 

So did we get better last year by trading good players?  

[NYCTK]

1 hour ago, dxpavelka said:

So did we get better last year by trading good players?  

What a ridiculous question. 

[Coach Wheels]

21 hours ago, RpR said:

Slow and awkward.

So, he's a DH. Your profile of him makes him a poor choice for RF also