TV deal rumor....???

[mnfireman]

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/diamond-sports-group-expected-to-retain-guardians-rangers-twins-broadcasts-for-2024.html

[Major League Ready]

The question is what number are they currently using in their budget?  It's likely very conservative.  There is a decent chance the amount of available dollars could jump a bit.  Could that amount combined with the Polanco savings land a decent SP?  Would they flip DeSclafani if that happened?

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 minute ago, Major League Ready said:

The question is what number are they currently using in their budget?  It's likely very conservative.  There is a decent chance the amount of available dollars could jump a bit.  Could that amount combined with the Polanco savings land a decent SP?  Would they flip DeSclafani if that happened?

I don't see them acquiring a good starting pitcher and keeping Desclafani. It just doesn't make much sense. That means you're optioning a better pitcher in Ober or Ryan just for depth.

[FlyingFinn]

14 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I don't see them acquiring a good starting pitcher and keeping Desclafani.

He was scheduled to be in long relief for the Mariners if what I read was correct. Could fit the same role for the Twins and be a spot starter if someone gets a minor injury. Of course, if we are spending $ on a good starting pitcher, we may want to ship him out along with his contract.

[tony&rodney]

Just now, FlyingFinn said:

Of course, if we are spending $ on a good starting pitcher, we may want to ship him out along with his contract.

Montgomery and Snell are the only two good starting pitchers available. Did i miss someone?

What are the odds of Minnesota adding either pitcher? Does anyone believe there is a chance? My calculator reads 0%.

[DJL44]

22 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I don't see them acquiring a good starting pitcher and keeping Desclafani. It just doesn't make much sense. That means you're optioning a better pitcher in Ober or Ryan just for depth.

There's still room in the bullpen.

[Major League Ready]

37 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I don't see them acquiring a good starting pitcher and keeping Desclafani. It just doesn't make much sense. That means you're optioning a better pitcher in Ober or Ryan just for depth.

That's exactly why I brought it up.  Flipping DeSlafani makes the entirety of the $10.5M savings from Polanco available.  It's not hard to imagine their budget estimate for TV revenue was next to nothing based on the reported amount of payroll reduction.  There is a play here if they get this TV deal done soon.  The net result would be a good free agent SP plus Topa plus a top 100 prospect and another decent prospect plus whatever they get for DeSlafani.  He should bring something back given the team getting him would only be on the hook for $4M in salary.  That would be a great outcome.

[JD-TWINS]

2 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Montgomery and Snell are the only two good starting pitchers available. Did i miss someone?

What are the odds of Minnesota adding either pitcher? Does anyone believe there is a chance? My calculator reads 0%.

‘23……..Clevinger 9-9 with the lowly White Sox. 

131 innings with a 3.77 ERA.

He seems to work well at $16-$17M - flip DeSclafani’s salary in a trade and there’s $12M available against Clevinger’s number. 2 year deal & 2nd year mutual option.

Montgomery for 5 years is the best move to me.

[tony&rodney]

6 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

‘23……..Clevinger 9-9 with the lowly White Sox. 

131 innings with a 3.77 ERA.

He seems to work well at $16-$17M - flip DeSclafani’s salary in a trade and there’s $12M available against Clevinger’s number. 2 year deal & 2nd year mutual option.

Montgomery for 5 years is the best move to me.

Clev? No. i think Bauer has the same odds as Clev. Maybe on a minor league invite deal. Nah. I'm not against it but don't believe it could happen.

DeSclafani cost the Twins $4 million. He may be moved too for further salary relief.

I believe we should listen when the Twins indicate a strict budget. I would be pleasantly surprised at any figure above $125 million for the player payroll.

Now if by some miracle the media deal from last year is resurrected, stuff can happen. We wait.

[howeda7]

1 hour ago, JD-TWINS said:

‘23……..Clevinger 9-9 with the lowly White Sox. 

131 innings with a 3.77 ERA.

He seems to work well at $16-$17M - flip DeSclafani’s salary in a trade and there’s $12M available against Clevinger’s number. 2 year deal & 2nd year mutual option.

Montgomery for 5 years is the best move to me.

I'd much rather have Clevinger than DeSclafini for sure. Does he have options? If not and you can't flip him, it's always an option just to eat the $$ and be done if he doesn't have a good Spring.

[Major League Ready]

2 hours ago, Bigfork Twins Guy said:

The problem with the FA starting pitchers is that they want multi-year contracts and even if we resign with Bally it's probably only for one year.  I doubt that the FO would sign a long-term contract without known revenue streams into the future.

This is an interesting point.  It is possible they use whatever figure they arrive at this year as a minimum expectation.  They have Kepler coming off this year.  Vazquez / Paddack and Castro after 2025.  Perhaps they trade Castro at some point.   Point being, they could sign someone to a multi year deal with the risk being they would be handcuffed if the TV revenue continues to be less than the previous deal.   Of course, success on the field would also increase the top line which would be the best scenario.

[Major League Ready]

Anyone know how the money transfers?  The Giants agreed to pay the Mariners $6M who then agreed to pay the Twins $8M.  Can the twins keep the $8M if they find someone to take DeSclafani with his entire $12M salary?  I recognize that probably would not happen.  Just trying to understand our options.

 

[KirbyHawk75]

Back to the topic.  Does this mean another season of no Twins games?  Any advancements with Prime?

[Trov]

The TV deal is expected to be at this point a single season, so really nothing for long term cash influx.  No point in thinking of multi-year contracts if you are counting TV money in budget.  Yes, the deal may add little to this years budget but any long term signings will not be affected because next offseason Twins will be in same boat.  Report also talks about taking less than last year.  My guess there will be a deal done, but will not have a ton of affect on signings unless for 1 year prove it deals, not sure if anyone out there for that. 

[Parfigliano]

On 2/1/2024 at 7:41 AM, Major League Ready said:

The question is what number are they currently using in their budget?  It's likely very conservative.  There is a decent chance the amount of available dollars could jump a bit.  Could that amount combined with the Polanco savings land a decent SP?  Would they flip DeSclafani if that happened?

Is there even a market for DeScalfina?

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, Parfigliano said:

Is there even a market for DeScalfina?

Flea?

[AlwaysinModeration]

So, have we heard anything further on how thus might affect their budget this year?  I believe I read that the contract for this year was going to be 85% of the previous contract.  The prior contract was 50, so does that mean they have 85% if $50mm to work with?  Or even 50% of that amount, if they spend 50% of revenue and on salaries? 
 

In any event, seems like they might suddenly have some extra financial flexibility….

[Jocko87]

On 2/1/2024 at 9:05 AM, DJL44 said:

There's still room in the bullpen.

🤣 filling up fast!

[lecroy24fan]

1 hour ago, AlwaysinModeration said:

So, have we heard anything further on how thus might affect their budget this year?  I believe I read that the contract for this year was going to be 85% of the previous contract.  The prior contract was 50, so does that mean they have 85% if $50mm to work with?  Or even 50% of that amount, if they spend 50% of revenue and on salaries? 
 

In any event, seems like they might suddenly have some extra financial flexibility….

I believe the number I've seen is around $40M.