Game Thread: Twins (Gray) v Guardians (Bibee), 8/30/23 @ 12:10 CT

[SpicyGarvSauce]

1 minute ago, SwainZag said:

And a .532 thru the 1st and ,663 thru the 2nd.  He's also given up just as many HR to a hitter in their 3rd PA of the game as the rest of the game combined.  Which is 468 PA to 150 PA.  

 

You are extremely reaching here.  

LOL that is ironic.

[Mike Sixel]

1 minute ago, SwainZag said:

And a .532 thru the 1st and ,663 thru the 2nd.  He's also given up just as many HR to a hitter in their 3rd PA of the game as the rest of the game combined.  Which is 468 PA to 150 PA.  

 

You are extremely reaching here.  

No, he's pointing out an example of how just because something works doesn't make it the right decision. That's a logical fallacy, and he's giving an example of how/why ....

[SwainZag]

Just now, Mike Sixel said:

No, he's pointing out an example of how just because something works doesn't make it the right decision. That's a logical fallacy, and he's giving an example of how/why ....

He was reaching with his drunk driving falacy.

[GusGus11]

Just now, SwainZag said:

He was reaching with his drunk driving falacy.

Im gonna be honest

That analogy was so insane it actually made me laugh out loud so I awarded him 1/2 a point in his argument.

[SpicyGarvSauce]

1 minute ago, SwainZag said:

He was reaching with his drunk driving falacy.

How so? It is literally an example of making a poor choice, but ending up not reaping the negative outcome from the poor choice.

How is that difficult to understand?

[Aggies7]

Zero reliable bullpen arms.

[HokieRif]

[SpicyGarvSauce]

LMAO - let's keep hucking curveballs, baby.

[SpicyGarvSauce]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

Zero reliable bullpen arms.

And someone downvoted me earlier in the thread when I said this bullpen isn't good enough to win in the postseason.

[Azviking101]

With how the bullpen is looking, If we learn that the twins did not put in a waiver claim for both Lopez and Moore then I think we’re all allowed to riot. 

[wsnydes]

36 minutes ago, sampleSizeOfOne said:

Will it come round again?

I'm optimistic!

[SpicyGarvSauce]

Just a bit outside.

[SpicyGarvSauce]

Swing and miss on a fastball - who knew.

[Parfigliano]

Duran drops DP ball then WP's in tieing run

[GusGus11]

Dick is so senile

Yes, Naylor swung. But you have to throw him out at 1B anyways and we wouldnt have. 

 

 

[HokieRif]

Duran has a case of Ankiel

[wavedog]

Not sharp on the relief pitching or defense the last 2 innings.   Lopez and Moore just gave up runs to the Phillies this afternoon so they must be auditioning for the Twins bullpen.   

[HokieRif]

Just now, GusGus11 said:

Dick is so senile

Yes, Naylor swung. But you have to throw him out at 1B anyways and we wouldnt have. 

 

 

I'm not sure what the rule is since the play was effectively stopped by the umpire.  Naylor never made it to first base any way.

[SteveLV]

I heard on the TV broadcast about a month ago that the coaches were trying to get Duran to throw more breaking balls, arguing it is actually his best pitch.

Disagree in concept:  It CAN be his best pitch, when it is set up by his devastating FB.  They have the cart and horse mixed up on their pitch sequencing.  Get the batter geared up to hit the heat, THEN drop in the curve out of the zone to see if they will chase.

[SF Twins Fan]

13 minutes ago, SpicyGarvSauce said:

I decide to drink at the bar and drive home while intoxicated and make it home safely.

That doesn't mean my decision to drink and drive was the right one just because I didn't crash my vehicle or injure someone.

Are you drinking at a bar right now?

[Aggies7]

The duran drop off has been so sudden and sad

[Azviking101]

on one hand, losing and moving up the waiver wire order would be great, but losing the series to Cleveland could give them the confidence to claim some of those guys which we do not want. 

[GusGus11]

2 minutes ago, HokieRif said:

I'm not sure what the rule is since the play was effectively stopped by the umpire.  Naylor never made it to first base any way.

Yeah thats cause they ruled it dead and everyone stopped playing. He was running to first.

DIck keeps complaining while we bat that we coulda appealed to third and its game over. Forgetting that dropped 3rd strike is a thing.

[Aggies7]

2 minutes ago, wavedog said:

Not sharp on the relief pitching or defense the last 2 innings.   Lopez and Moore just gave up runs to the Phillies this afternoon so they must be auditioning for the Twins bullpen.   

At this point you’ve got to take a chance on any reasonable reliever. The playoffs are happening and we can’t go into them with this disaster of a bullpen

[Azviking101]

1 minute ago, SteveLV said:

I heard on the TV broadcast about a month ago that the coaches were trying to get Duran to throw more breaking balls, arguing it is actually his best pitch.

Disagree in concept:  It CAN be his best pitch, when it is set up by his devastating FB.  They have the cart and horse mixed up on their pitch sequencing.  Get the batter geared up to hit the heat, THEN drop in the curve out of the zone to see if they will chase.

All the numbers have shown that the fastball is the pitch the opponent consistently crushes, but nothing worked today, that’s for sure. 

[9moons27]

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 If Duran would have fielded the double play comebacker, chances are he would have thrown it into centerfield.

 

[IaBeanCounter]

17 minutes ago, SpicyGarvSauce said:

He's literally thrown 6 innings total between the 7th-9th innings. If you or Rocco have seen that Gray is guaranteed to blow up late in games based on 6 innings, I want to hire you to predict my future.

Coming into today Gray had pitched 128 innings in innings 1-5 and gave up 34 runs for an ERA of 2.39.  In innings 6&7 he had pitched 22 innings, giving up 17 runs for an ERA 6.95.

[SpicyGarvSauce]

2 minutes ago, SF Twins Fan said:

Are you drinking at a bar right now?

It would be easier to watch this team while doing that, but no.

[SpicyGarvSauce]

Just now, IaBeanCounter said:

Coming into today Gray had pitched 128 innings in innings 1-5 and gave up 34 runs for an ERA of 2.39.  In innings 6&7 he had pitched 22 innings, giving up 17 runs for an ERA 6.95.

SSS, love when someone's argument involves that.

[Parfigliano]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

At this point you’ve got to take a chance on any reasonable reliever. The playoffs are happening and we can’t go into them with this disaster of a bullpen

We aren't going yet