Ramirez and Anderson suspensions...

[Vanimal46]

It’s rare to see two baseball players drop the gloves and square up like boxers on the field. So far it looks like a bizarre situation that is unclear why it happened. 

Ramirez wins the fight via TKO in round 1. More to come, obviously. 

[waltomeal]

"DOWN goes Anderson!  Down goes Anderson!" may be the broadcast call of the year.

[Dman]

Only thing I can think of is Jose didn't like that Anderson straddled the bag because he couldn't move to either side of the bag to slide and had to slide right over the plate which looked like it hurt a bit.  Not sure why it got so heated so fast though. I have never seen anything like that and Ramirez is about the last guy I would think of getting into a fight.  Not sure what was said but it really got to Anderson.

[wabene]

I bet ya Jackie Robinson had a better chin than The New Jackie Robinson, lol. 

[wabene]

Ramirez swinging for the fences like a Twin, lol

[wabene]

Man the Sox defense is laughable, lol

[Jocko87]

Suspensions from this will be interesting as there were several reengagements.

I watched an inning or so previous and there was another tag thing with Anderson trying to push a hand off the base.  Looking back at that crazy replay call from yesterday I’m wondering if that’s what it came from. 

[wabene]

Welp Timmy, that chin check is now immortalized. Sorry, I've always liked and respected Mr Ramirez, Tim Anderson? Not so much

[FlyingFinn]

33 minutes ago, wabene said:

Welp Timmy, that chin check is now immortalized. Sorry, I've always liked and respected Mr Ramirez, Tim Anderson? Not so much

Anderson certainly has a mouth, saying several things about the Twins in the past like they are "weak."

[Jocko87]

1 hour ago, waltomeal said:

"DOWN goes Anderson!  Down goes Anderson!" may be the broadcast call of the year.

Holy cow, love that call.  Baseball on the radio is the best. 

Unfortunately, he also points out that this is wildly out of the ordinary for Ramirez. This is just the thing to get Tito’s bloop troop up and running. AL Central will be a race, buckle up boys. 

[Jocko87]

45 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

Suspensions from this will be interesting as there were several reengagements.

I watched an inning or so previous and there was another tag thing with Anderson trying to push a hand off the base.  Looking back at that crazy replay call from yesterday I’m wondering if that’s what it came from. 

Ramirez took offense to a hard tag but probably a lot of Anderson tag shenanigans previous. 

[Seth Stohs]

1 hour ago, wabene said:

Ramirez swinging for the fences like a Twin, lol

But... Ramirez made contact... Buh-dump-bump... 

[Squirrel]

I still can’t figure out what all happened, what started it, and how both managers were ejected along with those who weren’t Anderson and Ramirez

[AceWrigley]

Great call by the broadcaster, sounded like a prize fight.

[KirbyDome89]

Tim Anderson stirring up ****? I'm shocked....

[Dave Borton]

Had to chuckle. MLB.com has no mention of the fight on page 1. Nothing. "Kids, we don't fight."

Always interesting to watch as the bullpen slowly trots in, BP catcher with guards on. Love it.

[Squirrel]

4 hours ago, KirbyDome89 said:

Tim Anderson stirring up ****? I'm shocked....

It takes two to tango. Whatever was said everyone else certainly played their part

[lecroy24fan]

9 hours ago, Squirrel said:

I still can’t figure out what all happened, what started it, and how both managers were ejected along with those who weren’t Anderson and Ramirez

The managers got into it with each other on the mound that started the second part of things.

[Parfigliano]

10 hours ago, FlyingFinn said:

Anderson certainly has a mouth, saying several things about the Twins in the past like they are "weak."

Not as "weak" as his chin.  He looked out on his feet before hitting the dirt.

[CRF]

Went to a ball game...and a boxing match broke out! Anderson probably got exactly what he deserved. 

[Squirrel]

1 hour ago, Parfigliano said:

Not as "weak" as his chin.  He looked out on his feet before hitting the dirt.

He wasn’t knocked out just down. He got up and his teammates had to forcibly remove him from the field. Vaughan literally picked him up and put him in the dugout, the first time. And his teammates had to take him off the field a second time

[Squirrel]

1 hour ago, lecroy24fan said:

The managers got into it with each other on the mound that started the second part of things.

Yeah. Francona said Gilfol said something to him. To get Francona that irate must’ve been something good

[Jocko87]

25 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

He wasn’t knocked out just down. He got up and his teammates had to forcibly remove him from the field. Vaughan literally picked him up and put him in the dugout, the first time. And his teammates had to take him off the field a second time

 

 

[Vanimal46]

Boxers also walk out of the ring after they get knocked out. Tim Anderson got clocked and didn’t know what day it was. 

[Squirrel]

21 minutes ago, Jocko87 said:

 

 

Watch the whole video when he comes back out on the field. He knew what he was doing. I'm not saying Ramirez didn't get in a good one, but as they were heading to the dugout he was fighting it, didn't want to go in, until Vaughan picked him up and put him in there. He was lucid enough to come back out.

[Jocko87]

6 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

Watch the whole video when he comes back out on the field. He knew what he was doing. I'm not saying Ramirez didn't get in a good one, but as they were heading to the dugout he was fighting it, didn't want to go in, until Vaughan picked him up and put him in there. He was lucid enough to come back out.

[Squirrel]

Here is the whole video. You can see that Anderson is fighting being pushed off the field. And it was the second time Vaughan just picks him up and takes him down the dugout steps. He might have initially been dazed, but he was fighting, both times, from being pushed off the field by his teammates.

In the end, imo, Anderson was the instigator. He'd already received one warning from the umpire about his jawing at a rookie player for the Guardians. And the other night pushed someone off base with a hard tag, and Ramirez said he'd been making really hard tags on people. That's why you see Jose get up and gesture 'Wtf, man?' (At least that's how I interpreted it.) I don't know what fines or suspensions will get handed out, but I hope Anderson gets the most in both. And I'd really like to know what Grifol said to Francona that triggered Francona. But Francona's response 'Boys will be boys' (in his post game presser) just made me want to throw up a little. Ugh. Poor excuse for grown men letting their emotions run away.

 

[KirbyDome89]

5 hours ago, Squirrel said:

It takes two to tango. Whatever was said everyone else certainly played their part

If Jose Ramirez had a similar history of being a ****head I'd be more inclined to spread the blame evenly.

[KirbyDome89]

1 hour ago, Squirrel said:

He wasn’t knocked out just down. He got up and his teammates had to forcibly remove him from the field. Vaughan literally picked him up and put him in the dugout, the first time. And his teammates had to take him off the field a second time

Obviously not out cold but he was clearly dazed. You could see it while he was being forced/helped to the dugout. The dude looked like he didn't know where he was.

[Squirrel]

11 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

Obviously not out cold but he was clearly dazed. You could see it while he was being forced/helped to the dugout. The dude looked like he didn't know where he was.

See the video I posted. He may have been dazed immediately after but he wanted back in there. You could see it on his face. He was determined. So much so he came out a second time. 

And it still takes two to tango. I agree that Anderson was the aggressor, but Ramirez could have walked away. I'm well aware of Anderson's reputation vs Ramirez', still, it takes two. And for the whole melee that followed. Boys will be boys doesn't cut it for me. It's a stupid rationalization.