Game Thread: Cleveland @ Twins 7:10 8/16/2021

[SanoMustGo]

1 minute ago, h2oface said:

Jax totally missed his target. Low and outside and he gave it middle inside and was crushed for the go ahead run. 

Don't believe any of this is on Jax. Worst defense in MLB.

[RickOShea]

Cave, keep your head down on the ball and quit closing your eyes.

[h2oface]

4 minutes ago, SanoMustGo said:

Don't believe any of this is on Jax. Worst defense in MLB.

That pitch was.

Let me repeat the rest of the comment "Still, 4 errors, and only 2 earned runs. Not bad. Baldelli has these guys focused and playing the field with aplomb ..."

[RickOShea]

Twins lead the majors in most errors..  When is the last time you ever heard that?

[SanoMustGo]

Just now, h2oface said:

That pitch was.

Yes, but think of how many extra pitches he had to throw due to the ****ty defense.

[h2oface]

1 minute ago, SanoMustGo said:

Yes.....

Thank you. See how quotes work?

[howeda7]

What do Simmons or Cave have to do to be DFA'd? 

[RickOShea]

3 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

Twins lead the majors in most errors..  When is the last time you ever heard that?

Has any kid ever forfeited his position in the draft, to avoid Minnesota?  That's ok Mr. Manfred, I gotta pee, he can ahead  go of me.

[Brock Beauchamp]

39 minutes ago, RickOShea said:

JD has to be a guess hitter.  If he guesses wrong on location or speed, he does a great Sano impersonation.

His K% is just under 20% and he is widely regarded as a hitting savant. He’s anything but a guess hitter. 

[Vanimal46]

Now I know the struggle of not being able to watch. Parents have YouTube TV and MLB.tv is blacked out. Oh well. 

[h2oface]

2 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

His K% is just under 20% and he is widely regarded as a hitting savant. He’s anything but a guess hitter. 

His K% is just under 20% and he has been widely regarded as a hitting savant. He’s anything but a guess hitter. 

Emphasis on the has been instead of the is

.... and not necessarily meaning he is a has been...... 

[cHawk]

Why not PH Kirilloff?

[Brock Beauchamp]

5 minutes ago, h2oface said:

His K% is just under 20% and he has been widely regarded as a hitting savant. He’s anything but a guess hitter. 

Emphasis on the has been instead of the is

.... and not necessarily meaning he is a has been...... 

He has a 122 wRC+ and a 127 OPS+. He's still a way above average hitter.

[RpR]

9 minutes ago, cHawk said:

Why not PH Kirilloff?

For whom?

[cHawk]

3 minutes ago, RpR said:

For whom?

Cave

[insagt1]

Totally not surprised about sending Larnach down. He was really struggling. But having both Cave and Simmons in the lineup doesn't help much. Anyone have that pit feeling that the first game Buxton plays will result in a season ending injury of some kind.?

Twins can still win this one.

[h2oface]

12 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

He has a 122 wRC+ and a 127 OPS+. He's still a way above average hitter.

Well, I still like high average hitters. I will always struggle to consider .250 hitters and less above average, but I know that it is in vogue to not care about batting average these days. I certainly feel that we are getting the downside of Donaldson's career and output, that's for sure. There were years he was on the top of the heap. Not now.

[Aggies7]

Is it possible to make the indians earn ANYTHING tonight?

[RickOShea]

24 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

His K% is just under 20% and he is widely regarded as a hitting savant. He’s anything but a guess hitter. 

I'm going by what I see.  When the count is in the hitter's favor and swings and misses by a wide margin, that to me is what I consider a guess hitter.  You can regard him however you choose.

[Brock Beauchamp]

5 minutes ago, h2oface said:

Well, I still like high average hitters. I will always struggle to consider .250 hitters and less above average, but I know that it is in vogue to not care about batting average these days. I certainly feel that we are getting the downside of Donaldson's career and output, that's for sure. There were years he was on the top of the heap. Not now.

I’m not a fan of the low batting average in today’s game but Donaldson is still a handful of points higher than the AL average. He’s definitely aging but many people aren’t mentally adjusting just how low batting average has fallen in the past few years. 

[Danchat]

With 4, should be 5 errors committed, it's somewhat impressive that the Indians have been held to only 4 runs.  

[Brock Beauchamp]

1 minute ago, RickOShea said:

I'm going by what I see.  When the count is in the hitter's favor and swings and misses by a wide margin, that to me is what I consider a guess hitter.  You can regard him however you choose.

It’s not me regarding him that way, it’s basically all of baseball. Anecdotal swings in individual plate appearances doesn’t change his current numbers and strong history of hitting. 

[h2oface]

Time for Garver to poke one out!!

[RickOShea]

1 minute ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

It’s not me regarding him that way, it’s basically all of baseball. Anecdotal swings in individual plate appearances doesn’t change his current numbers and strong history of hitting. 

I don't believe there's anything wrong with being a guess hitter.  To me, it's one approach to hitting.

[h2oface]

2 minutes ago, h2oface said:

Time for Garver to poke one out!!

Damn. Almost called it.

[h2oface]

15 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

I’m not a fan of the low batting average in today’s game but Donaldson is still a handful of points higher than the AL average. He’s definitely aging but many people aren’t mentally adjusting just how low batting average has fallen in the past few years. 

I guess I hesitate to make the criteria lowered because all are hitting worse. I never liked getting a 98 on the test (which actually happened sometimes!), and the rest of the class got no higher than 82, and the whole class being graded on the curve. I get it though. (The instructors in college had to make it look like they were educating the students......) Just because most hitters are not hitting well anymore, doesn't mean, to me, we should change the standards of what is a great hitter, and grade then on the curve, so to speak.

[h2oface]

No Dick..... you have to find a place for Miranda to play!

[RpR]

Yep, cover your head with your glove if the ball is coming your way; no wonder the twins have so many errors.

[h2oface]

If Colome would have pitched like this early in the season, we would still have Berrios and Cruz on the team. I don't know if I will ever like Colome now.

[Aggies7]

Wonder how this year would have turned out if colomé hadn’t been so terrible early on