Coronavirus

[stringer bell]

There are many individual topics to address regarding the COVID-19 pandemic. We seemed to have at least temporarily managed to keep enough people out of intensive care to have enough space for all who need such care (and ventilators). Yea, that is a win. The PPE needs hospitals seem to be meeting the minimums, but there isn't an abundance, so the problem is not solved, but it isn't a crisis now. Testing is lagging far behind demand and will be necessary to safely restart not only activities like MLB, so many other things like flying, getting or keeping malls open, you name it. Also, people aren't being as good about sheltering in place. I think this is a function of "quarantine fatigue".

 

Personally, I agree with and have supported what Minnesota has done. However, it is wearing on me. I'm tired of staying at home every weekend and not feeling comfortable walking into the Kwik Trip when I get gas. I understand the frustration of people, and more than that I get that losing one's job from an invisible enemy is tough to take, or owning a small business and not being able to have customers can't be easy. I think it is too soon to open up businesses and certainly resuming things as they were.

 

What people are refusing to see is that this pandemic isn't going to be over on June 1 or September 1 for that matter. Until there is a vaccine and herd immunity life is going to be changed significantly. There won't be crowds at Target Field, there can't be concerts or other gatherings like the State Fair or any local festival. As someone who falls in one of the risk categories, I will probably be wearing a mask in public until well into 2021. I'll be hesitant to be around people for a long time. The federal money will be long gone before we get behind this, not to mention that of the trillions spent most of it went to the rich getting richer. Our lives are changed for the long term and eventually someone I know will pass away. The numbers are going to be staggering and our health system will be strained. Despite what the politicians are saying, this will effect our economy for a long time. 

[obtusebanter]

 

You’re young and will probably be fine, but then I’d keep my distance from people who are more at risk and compromised. 

 

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk. 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk. 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

I'm truly sorry to hear of your loss. I know that sounds feeble in the wake of your sorrow but thank you for sharing.

 

My thoughts are with you.

 

I wish I had something to say but as a person who has suffered loss, I know words don't mean a lot right now.

All I can say is that if you need help, Twins Daily will give what it can. PM me if you need more info.

[stringer bell]

 

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk. 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

So sorry for your loss. 

[ashbury]

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk. 

 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

She passed away on my birthday. That means nothing to you, but it somehow brings into bright light for me, yet again, just how this world can be.

 

Thank you for sharing your tragic news. I hope you have a strong family/social network. Get all the help you need.

[Squirrel]

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk. 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

I am truly sorry, and I didn’t mean to sound so cavalier. Truly.

[Vanimal46]

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk.

 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

Heart breaking. Sorry for your loss. I’ve also read stories of people our age (early 30s) dealing with strokes and blood clots and it’s terrifying.

[obtusebanter]

Thanks everyone. This disease is serious business.

[akmanak]

With Wisconsin’s Supreme Court striking down the stay at home order , this now will go to the US Supreme Court and may very well come to an end all together. God help us all.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

With Wisconsin’s Supreme Court striking down the stay at home order , this now will go to the US Supreme Court and may very well come to an end all together. God help us all.

It should be a huge concern to Walz and Minnesotans that none of Minnesota’s neighbors have shelter in place orders, and that Minnesotans itching to get out for their own sanity will go to those states for leisure. Then bring the virus back with them.

 

But again, it was probably already too late even in March to contain the virus, no vaccine is on the horizon, and people won’t tolerate being cooped up indefinitely.

[AlwaysinModeration]

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk.

 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

I’m so sorry for you and your kids, that is truly awful. You are right, this disease is serious business and should not be trivialized in any manner.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

Cook county surpassed Queens county as the county with the most Covid-19 cases reported in the US.

 

Stay safe Squirrel and the other Chicagoans

[KirbyDome89]

 

It should be a huge concern to Walz and Minnesotans that none of Minnesota’s neighbors have shelter in place orders, and that Minnesotans itching to get out for their own sanity will go to those states for leisure. Then bring the virus back with them.

But again, it was probably already too late even in March to contain the virus, no vaccine is on the horizon, and people won’t tolerate being cooped up indefinitely.

Just because states like Iowa aren't calling it a "shelter in place," doesn't mean there haven't been restrictions, or that their approach has been any less effective. 

 

https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2020/04/06/if-iowa-is-already-practicing-shelter-in-place-why-not-call-it-that/

 

Minnesota is on par with Iowa and Wisconsin in terms of reported cases, and far behind both of the Dakotas. I'm just as likely to come into contact with COVID walking in my actual neighborhood as I am crossing the border into neighboring states. 

[biggentleben]

 

Just because states like Iowa aren't calling it a "shelter in place," doesn't mean there haven't been restrictions, or that their approach has been any less effective. 

 

https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2020/04/06/if-iowa-is-already-practicing-shelter-in-place-why-not-call-it-that/

 

Minnesota is on par with Iowa and Wisconsin in terms of reported cases, and far behind both of the Dakotas. I'm just as likely to come into contact with COVID walking in my actual neighborhood as I am crossing the border into neighboring states. 

Walz likes words. When asked about the fact that multiple counties in South Dakota were more restrictive than Minnesota's at-home order, Walz dismissed the question and dodged it completely. It's buzzword sort of stuff.

 

The mayor in the city with the worst outbreak in South Dakota fought with the governor because his city had poor wording in their charter rather than working with his city commissioners to put together an emergency declaration with sunset rules to ensure there wasn't any issue with overstep beyond COVID. Now another meat packing plant is having an outbreak after the county it is in basically opened things wide open again.

 

The reporting on one state without being informed on the legalities within that state has been pretty egregious nation-wide.

[Squirrel]

Cook county surpassed Queens county as the county with the most Covid-19 cases reported in the US.

Stay safe Squirrel and the other Chicagoans

Thanks. Just got home yesterday. I don’t plan on going anywhere. At least not for now.

[biggentleben]

 

Thanks. Just got home yesterday. I don’t plan on going anywhere. At least not for now.

 

My grandparents were brought back home to South Dakota from their winter home in Arizona just in time for my grandmother's 85th birthday (grandpa celebrated 90 in Arizona earlier this spring, but would have usually been home before his birthday as well). They're looking forward to getting out of their house just to work in the yard after a two-week quarantine from flying home with my uncle (who then drove to Wisconsin).

[ewen21]

 

This was not addressed to me and I'm not trying to attack it. Rather, I'd like to make a point about age. Young folks truly are at less risk. But not no risk. 

To that point, my wife of eleven years died at the age of 33 in the early morning of April 22nd. It appeared to be a massive stroke. I watched it occur after we had put our kids to bed that evening. I'm still a month out from being able to receive an official cause of death but I'm sure you all have read about the odd relationship between Covid-19 and blood clots. Time will tell.

Oh my God.  I don't even know, but I am so leveled by this.  I can't even comprehend it man.  I am sorry.

 

I live in New York state.  I am not in the metro area, but I am not that far from it.  I could be in Manhattan under two hours.  My cousin and his wife have lived there for 25 years, not too far from the UN building. My wife and I were down there on February 22nd.  It was only her 4th or 5th time and the first time we went together. I am glad we went because I am not sure when I am going there again.  It has had a major impact around here.  We were supposedly "opening it up" here yesterday, but I didn't notice quite frankly.  It has been nearly 2 and a half months now.

 

I was allowed to go into my classroom for the first time since school closed.  It was like a time capsule.  I had to bag student items.  Lockers, folders, books....it took hours.  I work gloves and a mask.  The date on my desk cube still read Friday, March 13th.

 

I am sad for you.  Sorry.

[ewen21]

I live in a small town in northern Dutchess County, NY state.  Not too far from Poughkeepsie.  We are supposed to be opening things up here, but whether it is reluctance on the part of shop owners or the worst case scenario (they are never opening) is hard to say.  I can say I have not seen ANY small shop opening these last couple of days and that is heartbreaking.  The Galleria Mall in Poughkeepsie has a Dick's Sporting Goods and I wanted to order a set of 25lb dumbbells for curbside pickup.  I guess exercise equipment is nearly impossible to get here since we have been hunkered down for 2 and a half months now and people need to exercise.  I am still waiting to know when the items come in so I can pick them up.

 

I am married, but my wife lives in FL (she will move after my stepdaughter finishes high school next summer).  Over the last two years we have logged a lot of flights, but it has not been hard at all, but at this point the game has changed.  We have not seen each other since February.  I made (and cancelled) flight arrangements 3 times because of restrictions, cold feet on both of our parts.  It has been taxing for both of us.  I am going to fly out of Albany on June 11th and will pretty much stay until school starts.  We play on flying up here together sometime in late July/early August to get away from the heat.  This has been particularly hard on me.  My aunt passed away from a respiratory illness in mid-March (but tested negative for the virus--I have my doubts about that though).  Since it was so sudden and she was very close to my mom it hit my mom real hard.  Making matters worse for her my step father has been having more and more trouble with memory, etc....(ex-offensive lineman in college).  They have a great relationship and I couldn't ask for a better second dad but he isn't the same as he was even a year ago.  Suddenly I am keeping watch on both of them as my sister lives in those famous northern suburbs of Chicago and my brother has relocated to the Orlando area with his family.  I have visited my parents once a week since after my aunt passed, mostly to support my mom.  I have not even hugged her.  We have practiced social distancing and when I am down there we are mostly outside walking or sitting outside and grilling for lunch.  Last weekend was the first time we had a meal together indoors.  It was the second time I was indoors in someone else's house since early March.  I have a friend that lives across the street with multiple myleoma (doing very well with treatment, but still likes a few beers) who convinced me to come over and knock back Mooseheads on his deck on warm Friday several weeks ago (It actually snowed here May 9th).  Thank heaven I live right near Main Street and not where I lived several years ago.  I have walked with a two different people several times (wearing masks).  I have talked to neighbors outside when I have seen them.  That is it.  That is the extent of my human interaction outside of saying hello to people when I walk through the village in my town.

 

I haven't shook a hand or so much as touched another human being since Monday, March 16th when my neighborhood pub closed for business at 8:00 that evening.  I shook hands with two guys who I have known for years as we had out last call and that is it.  That is how long it has been.  From March 16th until now and counting.  Of course, I have made weekly trips to Hannaford (local grocery store) and Walmart.  I have filled my gas tank up just twice in two and a half months.  I have done some hikes in solitude out in the Woodstock area.  There just isn't much I can do other than distance teach.  All I can say is THANKS BE TO GOD that I am working from home and getting paid.

 

That said, I do know that I am leaving here June 11th for Florida and things are opened up more there.  My wife and I have agreed we aren't going out to eat for a long long time.  It will be almost four months by then.  It is so crazy.  When she was up here in February our conversations were about real estate and where we were going to move.  We can't live here because it needs to have 3 bathrooms.  Since this broke we have not talked about real estate at all. As a matter of fact, her mother took a fall on Palm Sunday and broke her wrist and she has been caring for her a few times a week helping her shower and do her hair.

 

It really is unreal how much priorities have changed.

 

 

[ewen21]

You know what?  Both New York City and Minneapolis are the two least desirable places to be right now.  That is kind of messed up and sad

[Squirrel]

 

You know what?  Both New York City and Minneapolis are the two least desirable places to be right now.  That is kind of messed up and sad

 

Chicago ain't so great, either. It's all messed up.

 

Stay safe ... and sorry about your Aunt. It's never easy losing someone, but especially now, is even worse.

 

 

[ewen21]

 

Chicago ain't so great, either. It's all messed up.

 

Stay safe ... and sorry about your Aunt. It's never easy losing someone, but especially now, is even worse.

Hey, my sister lives in Kenilworth.  You know where that is?

[Squirrel]

 

Hey, my sister lives in Kenilworth.  You know where that is?

 

Yeah ... I drive through there in the summers as I work way up north. Well, not this summer, hopefully next summer. I live south of downtown, but in the city.

[Killer 3]

I don't think this should be a political thread. We got a work email today detailing plans to deal with the virus - a lot of suggestions to work from home. I now actually know someone in MN that unofficially has it but seems likely to be the real thing.

 

I'm actually not overly concerned with the virus but some of my co-workers are germaphobes and are absolutely freaking out. They send emails and facebook posts hourly.

It’s absolutely ridiculous. Fear fear fear shoved down our throats.

[Richie the Rally Goat]

It’s absolutely ridiculous. Fear fear fear shoved down our throats.

in the span of 9 weeks, 100,000 Americans have died as a result of Covid, even while most of that time, the majority of Americans have quarantined. It’s serious

[Craig Arko]

Commentary in the journal Nature about the other virus - disinformation.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01452-z

[ashbury]

It’s absolutely ridiculous. Fear fear fear shoved down our throats.

You're being fed this point of view by canny politicians who want to have it both ways. They know what needs to be done to save lives, and mostly are doing it by this point (after a lot of stalling), but want to deflect all the negative effects of those efforts to the other side.

 

[nicksaviking]

 

It’s absolutely ridiculous. Fear fear fear shoved down our throats.

 

It's not fear, it's compassion. I'm not afraid, and I doubt most quarantined are either. We are choosing to do our part so as to not to put our vulnerable population at risk. It's pretty disappointing that there is such a large portion of our country that doesn't give them that same consideration. 

[Richie the Rally Goat]

This really hit home for me the impact of the virus

 

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2645529/?fbclid=IwAR2CFswoQaYdtyyuNZRHxLkaQjkgaAUftSyM9v8iF8ruu0HZMc2oqWD3I_U&utm_campaign=MMS_Newsletter_20200626&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sfmc_This%20is%20nuts&utm_content=&utm_term=101718923

[Squirrel]

This really hit home for me the impact of the virus

https://public.flourish.studio/visualisation/2645529/?fbclid=IwAR2CFswoQaYdtyyuNZRHxLkaQjkgaAUftSyM9v8iF8ruu0HZMc2oqWD3I_U&utm_campaign=MMS_Newsletter_20200626&utm_medium=email&utm_source=sfmc_This%20is%20nuts&utm_content=&utm_term=101718923

There are things missing on that comparison chart, though, but still, in general, it’s a pretty telling thing.

[Squirrel]

The U.S. has approx. 4% of the world’s population, and has approx. 25% of the coronavirus deaths. Not sure what that says specifically, but I have my opinions on that.