jimmer Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Nothing on that list justifies Hosner's presence among the finalists. I'd call his inclusion over Mauer's an outrageous snub.Exactly
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I think you can make an argument just based on innings played, amd based on the volatility of defensive metrics, giving some weight to previous seasons is not egregious. Plus, there is a decent chance that Mauer ended up 4th. Is it really an outrageous snub to.be 4th instead of 3rd?Agree to disagree that previous seasons should be a consideration at all.This is a yearly award. WLFINN 1
jimmer Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Agree to disagree that previous seasons should be a consideration at all.This is a yearly award.exactly
davidc3915 Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 The selection process for the Gold Gloves has become a complete joke in recent years, and to me at least, devalues the award. That said, if Buxton does not win, we riot!!!!! spinowner, 70charger and bobs 3
bobs Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 The eye test says Mauer should be a finalist. Even today's hallowed advanced metrics say Mauer should be a finalist. Further evidence that the Gold Glove is the biggest joke of the major awards. 17 errors total from left side of Twins' infield says it all...that number is doubled if not for Mauer. We probably shouldn't get too worked up about it b/c I doubt Joe gives a s--t if he wins it or not. spinowner 1
bobs Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 The selection process for the Gold Gloves has become a complete joke in recent years, and to me at least, devalues the award. That said, if Buxton does not win, we riot!!!!!Torches and Pitchforks!! Thrylos 1
Circus Boy Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Just a beauty contest. It all comes down to how much you fill the swimsuit.
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 Just a beauty contest. It all comes down to how much you fill the swimsuit.Then why is Mitch Moreland a finalist?
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 I think you can make an argument just based on innings played, amd based on the volatility of defensive metrics, giving some weight to previous seasons is not egregious.Plus, there is a decent chance that Mauer ended up 4th. Is it really an outrageous snub to.be 4th instead of 3rd?Since I think the GG award is pretty much useless at this point, I don't think anything is truly egregious, except maybe the award itself, I do think it laughable Mauer not receive consideration. If innings played is a consideration, then they should up the line for qualifying, especially if it is the difference maker for voters. I also think one of the above posters made an interesting point ... errors saved ... although that's truly hard to qualify, but from my eye test, I'd say Mauer had plenty of those from Polanco and Sano. But then ... I couldn't say how many of those any of the others had, either.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted October 27, 2017 Posted October 27, 2017 The selection process for the Gold Gloves has become a complete joke in recent years, and to me at least, devalues the award. That said, if Buxton does not win, we riot!!!!! Torches and Pitchforks!! Get 'em ready. Buxton is a no brainer to us who watch him, probably the most amazing CF I've ever seen. Baseball likes to honor the usual suspects tho, and Mauer's treatment is pretty typical of how I expect this to go down.
spinowner Provisional Member Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 I guess Hrbek never getting one should have taught us that lesson.Don Mattingly won 9 GG's while Kent Hrbek was also active. While Mattingly was a good defensive 1B he was no Kent Hrbek. Well intentioned though it may be, GG is the most farcical of all annual awards. milldam, Circus Boy, Halsey Hall and 1 other 4
Circus Boy Verified Member Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Don Mattingly won 9 GG's while Kent Hrbek was also active. While Mattingly was a good defensive 1B he was no Kent Hrbek. Well intentioned though it may be, GG is the most farcical of all annual awards.Hrbek was so good he could keep opponents out of contact with the bag ninja-like. Jerr and 70charger 2
Circus Boy Verified Member Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 Then why is Mitch Moreland a finalist?East Coast bias.
ashbury Verified Member Posted October 28, 2017 Posted October 28, 2017 East Coast bias.He's from Amory, Mississippi.
IndyTwinsFan Verified Member Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 He's from Amory, Mississippi.However, he plays for an upper East coast team. Hence, the bias. Jerr 1
Doomtints Verified Member Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I dunno man ... I remember getting bashed for saying Mauer would not be a finalist due to the Gold Glove being a popularity contest ....And now people are acting surprised? Hmm... Seems to me this was predictable as all hell! Sometimes some of you just want to fight, I think.If Mauer is as good next year he will be considered, probably. One good year isn't enough to get him on voter's radar. If he bashes 25 home runs (which yes has nothing to do with defense) then even moreseo. Edited October 30, 2017 by Doomtints
spinowner Provisional Member Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 I dunno man ... I remember saying Mauer would not be a finalist due to the Gold Glove being a popularity contest and getting bashed for it....And now people are acting surprised? Hmm... Seems to me this was predictable as all hell!If Mauer is as good next year he will be considered, probably. One good year isn't enough to get him on voter's radar.I for one am not surprised. As I said before, the Gold Glove winds up going to undeserving recipients more often than any other award in the game. Doomtints and Jerr 2
Doomtints Verified Member Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) I for one am not surprised. As I said before, the Gold Glove winds up going to undeserving recipients more often than any other award in the game. Yes. The Gold Glove is a popularity contest, and thus an utterly useless award. It's an award designed to sell baseball gloves to kids. It's the award equivalent of all star game voting. Edited October 30, 2017 by Doomtints Jerr 1
notoriousgod71 Verified Member Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 The eye test says Mauer should be a finalist. Even today's hallowed advanced metrics say Mauer should be a finalist. Further evidence that the Gold Glove is the biggest joke of the major awards. 17 errors total from left side of Twins' infield says it all...that number is doubled if not for Mauer. We probably shouldn't get too worked up about it b/c I doubt Joe gives a s--t if he wins it or not. It's also doubled if MLB allowed errors to be charged.
ashbury Verified Member Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 East Coast bias. He's from Amory, Mississippi. However, he plays for an upper East coast team. Hence, the bias. Well, sure, there's that. Circus Boy 1
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted October 30, 2017 Posted October 30, 2017 East Coast bias. Well, sure, there's that.Amory IS in NE MS, I believe. So there's that. Circus Boy, ashbury, IndyTwinsFan and 1 other 4
D. Hocking Verified Member Posted November 1, 2017 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Mauer trying to find ways to move on from the snub. I suspect those girls might have him wrapped around their little fingers. Edited November 1, 2017 by D. Hocking Circus Boy, Jerr, drjim and 3 others 6
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