What will the roster moves be today?

[Vanimal46]

I'm trying to understand what direction this FO is heading in.... Are they still trying to win games even though they were just sellers yesterday? 

[USAFChief]

 

I'm trying to understand what direction this FO is heading in.... Are they still trying to win games even though they were just sellers yesterday? 

speaking of which, I was actually alright with giving Colon a shot, provided they thought he gave them a better shot at winning games in 2017 than internal options.  But...if you're selling, and officially calling the 2017 season over, why would you give Colon any more run?

[Otto von Ballpark]

speaking of which, I was actually alright with giving Colon a shot, provided they thought he gave them a better shot at winning games in 2017 than internal options. But...if you're selling, and officially calling the 2017 season over, why would you give Colon any more run?

I hope it's not the "we're selling, but if the veteran doesn't have value we'll let him play out the string" strategy. Biding time for Santiago, maybe?

 

We've given Colon 3 starts, and I hope we didn't promise him any beyond July 31.

 

Not a whole lot of alternatives, though, unless we dip down to AA again.

[HitInAPinch]

 

Gee last pitched on 7/26, so he is available as a long reliever/mop up man, in case one of the other Twins' starters messes up.  Not a starter per se.

So, what league is this Per Se guy playing in? 

[drjim]

 

They didn't need a starter until Saturday, and Gibson would be eligible to return Friday.

And if Gee is up in the emergency pitcher role -- do we really need that guy anymore? Don't we have moderately better uses of the roster spot by now? Weren't we meaning to get a look at Turley in a bullpen role at some point?

 

Turley is probably the guy I would go with too. At least there is a small chance he performs well enough to stick next year. I do wonder if this is just a really short term hold until Gibson makes the next start.

 

I personally am not too offended with any of the other pitchers left in AAA at the moment. Maybe Curtiss when Belisle is finally traded in August.

[drjim]

 

I hope it's not the "we're selling, but if the veteran doesn't have value we'll let him play out the string" strategy. Biding time for Santiago, maybe?

We've given Colon 3 starts, and I hope we didn't promise him any beyond July 31.

Not a whole lot of alternatives, though, unless we dip down to AA again.

 

Too early to dip into AA in my mind. Of course, I don't really think any of the prospects down there need to make an mlb start this season.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Too early to dip into AA in my mind. Of course, I don't really think any of the prospects down there need to make an mlb start this season.

Would you still consider Romero in relief? Or has that ship sailed too?

[drjim]

Would you still consider Romero in relief? Or has that ship sailed too?

Yes. I specifically said start. I'd call up Romero as soon as possible.

 

And I wouldn't be stunned if they called up Gonsalves for a handful of September starts if there is a need and the minor league season is over.

[drjim]

Yes. I specifically said start. I'd call up Romero as soon as possible.

 

And I wouldn't be stunned if they called up Gonsalves for a handful of September starts if there is a need and the minor league season is over.

Does seem they have a pretty specific plan for Romero, not sure if major league relief appearances is part of it. Could make some sense in September if he had innings left and is comtrolled.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Yes. I specifically said start. I'd call up Romero as soon as possible.

 

And I wouldn't be stunned if they called up Gonsalves for a handful of September starts if there is a need and the minor league season is over.

Chattanooga is going all the way, baby! There may only be a couple weeks left of the MLB season after their playoffs wrap up. I suspect we see neither pitcher, but I'd root for your scenario.

[mazeville]

 

But why would anyone care about giving Gee a shot? He's a free agent after this year and the Twins have already committed to next year.

 

Why do you think he was promised a start? Plenty of former MLB players end up getting a minor league contract with another club and never see the big leagues with that team. The Twins can't promise starts to all of these guys. Particularly when they pick up a half dozen of them throughout the season.

 

He was likely given a strong indication that he would get a shot with the major league club. 

 

As I said, I don't have a problem with it. This is hardly some sort of devastating move that is going to block some young guy for years to come. It's not as if Slegers or someone else won't get a shot. They're just not pounding the door down right now.

 

Let's put this into context. It's not as if they signed some mediocre guy for two or three years here. He's a borderline major leaguer on a minor league contract who will not be here next year unless he lights the world on fire. He's a placeholder. And that's probably what the team needs for the next few weeks. 

 

Would I prefer to see a young guy? Sure. But I'm also not the one watching AAA and AA games on a routine basis. I don't have scouts telling me who is ready and who is not. And I'm hardly an expert on the inner workings of service time and pitcher development. 

 

I also recall distinctly how people screamed for Jose Berrios last year. He destroyed AAA pitching. And yet when he got to the major league club he was awful. Slegers doesn't come close to the numbers Berrios posted last year. So be careful what you wish for. 

[drjim]

Chattanooga is going all the way, baby! There may only be a couple weeks left of the MLB season after their playoffs wrap up. I suspect we see neither pitcher, but I'd root for your scenario.

I wonder if the new front office puts value on keeping winning minor league teams together.

 

I do agree, if they go all the way, likely eliminates a call up. Maybe Gonsalves goes to Arizona.

[Riverbrian]

speaking of which, I was actually alright with giving Colon a shot, provided they thought he gave them a better shot at winning games in 2017 than internal options. But...if you're selling, and officially calling the 2017 season over, why would you give Colon any more run?

Possibility of establishing some value for a waiver trade?

 

Injuries could happen in August to a contending teams rotation and Bartolo might bring back some player to be named down the road that is a long shot to make it... but might. Teams get desperate when losses occur and they might look at Bartolo and think he can hold a spot down... eat some innings for a little while.

 

If we just release Bartolo... we won't be able to get that player to be named that probably won't make it... but might.

 

That's all I got.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Possibility of establishing some value for a waiver trade?

 

Injuries could happen in August to a contending teams rotation and Bartolo might bring back some player to be named down the road that is a long shot to make it... but might. Teams get desperate when losses occur and they might look at Bartolo and think he can hold a spot down... eat some innings for a little while.

 

If we just release Bartolo... we won't be able to get that player to be named that probably won't make it... but might.

 

That's all I got.

Not sure if it is in the realm of possible to actually get a player, of any kind, for Colon anymore. Maybe "cash considerations" (approximately the waiver fee?) like Jamey Carroll got us in August a few years back.

[Squirrel]

 

My vow to be OK with no major moves by this front office if they feel they need a year to do evaluations is really being tested when they are doing the evaluations on meatball veterans who won't be here next year.

Yep ... it's ... well, it's ... disheartening. For me. Why?

[Tuba]

I wonder if Kintzler had gone due to injury would everyone be so eager to tank? I get that selling sends a message but it doesn't mean you have to intentionally tank (in August anyway). Maybe they they called up Gee because they think he has the best chance to win. 

[Twodogs]

Dillon Gee, I thought they lost him? They should have tried him right before they brought in Bartolo, should have given Bartolo one more minor league start. Gee now seems like a moot point?

[Mike Sixel]

 

I wonder if Kintzler had gone due to injury would everyone be so eager to tank? I get that selling sends a message but it doesn't mean you have to intentionally tank (in August anyway). Maybe they they called up Gee because they think he has the best chance to win. 

 

I don't think they are "tanking" at all. They still have nearly every veteran that isn't nailed down on the roster. There is no evidence of tanking.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Gibson announced as the starter for Saturday. Presumably Gee will go back down...

[Shaitan]

 

Gibson announced as the starter for Saturday. Presumably Gee will go back down...

Or Busenitz. Then they keep Gee as swingman. They don't have a long reliever without since dropping Hughes and Haley, do they? (I seriously can't keep track of which pitchers on the roster anymore.)

[Mike Sixel]

I'm so excited!

[Mike Sixel]

Good luck selling tickets next year. Bad team, no young players added this year.

[old nurse]

 

Good luck selling tickets next year. Bad team, no young players added this year.

Granite, Busenitz and Hildenberger say Hello. Mejia had but a cup of coffee last year. Polanco extended time. Felix Jorge  got a cup of coffee this year, so you are right, no young players were added as the team will likely never see any of these players ever again because they fail so miserably

[DJSim22]

 

Granite, Busenitz and Hildenberger say Hello. Mejia had but a cup of coffee last year. Polanco extended time. Felix Jorge  got a cup of coffee this year, so you are right, no young players were added as the team will likely never see any of these players ever again because they fail so miserably

 

And it's not even September yet.

 

 

[Mike Sixel]

Granite, Busenitz and Hildenberger say Hello. Mejia had but a cup of coffee last year. Polanco extended time. Felix Jorge got a cup of coffee this year, so you are right, no young players were added as the team will likely never see any of these players ever again because they fail so miserably

I bet the fans are very excited about a few relief pitchers, and polanco is no rookie. Nor did I say we would never see this exciting collecting of newcomers again.

 

Jorge is not on the roster, not is he likely a long term starter. Mejia is not new this year.

 

So , your argument is the fans will be excited by three relief pitchers?

[Danchat]

 

I bet the fans are very excited about a few relief pitchers, and polanco is no rookie. Nor did I say we would never see this exciting collecting of newcomers again.

Jorge is not on the roster, not is he likely a long term starter. Mejia is not new this year.

So , your argument is the fans will be excited by three relief pitchers?

For all intents and purposes, Mejia is a rookie. He pitched in one game last season - just one! He is definitely "new" for this year.

[KirbyDome89]

 

Granite, Busenitz and Hildenberger say Hello. Mejia had but a cup of coffee last year. Polanco extended time. Felix Jorge  got a cup of coffee this year, so you are right, no young players were added as the team will likely never see any of these players ever again because they fail so miserably

Turley, Rucinski, Wheeler, Wilk, Colon, Tepesch, Breslow, Wimmers, Boshers, Heston, Gee.....not exactly an influx of young talent.

 

The Twins set their franchise record for # of pitchers used in a season tonight. A quick read through the names is all it takes to assess which side they've favored.  

[howeda7]

There are things they can do to see younger players without tanking. Let's have Garver up here catching half the time. Let's have Vargas DH'ing instead of Grossman. Let's try Hildenberger as closer rather than Belisle, etc. 

[old nurse]

 

I bet the fans are very excited about a few relief pitchers, and polanco is no rookie. Nor did I say we would never see this exciting collecting of newcomers again.

Jorge is not on the roster, not is he likely a long term starter. Mejia is not new this year.

So , your argument is the fans will be excited by three relief pitchers?

No, my argument was that somehow you missed seeing the young players added this year.  Young players is the word you used not rookies. Of course Sano , Kepler and Buxton are now just old, boring pos yesterday's news like Berrios.  No. The Twins do not have any young players.  That Rosario is going to be 26. Get that old fart out of here.

[old nurse]

 

Turley, Rucinski, Wheeler, Wilk, Colon, Tepesch, Breslow, Wimmers, Boshers, Heston, Gee.....not exactly an influx of young talent.

 

The Twins set their franchise record for # of pitchers used in a season tonight. A quick read through the names is all it takes to assess which side they've favored.  

So, no player over the age of 25 is ever supposed to play?   That logic would also prevent  the team from signing any free agents to augment the team