Twins Void $3 Million Deal With Jelfrey Marte

[Seth Stohs]

Let the speculation begin... or become enhanced.

 

Baseball America's Ben Badler learned that the Twins have voided their $3 million deal with Dominican SS Jelfrey Marte for something that came out during a recent physical. According to the article, it is believed to be something related to his vision.

 

UPDATED - Per JJ Cooper, this does not give the Twins an extra $3 million. They have $3.2 million to spend internationally still. 

 

 

 

http://www.baseballamerica.com/international/twins-void-3-million-contract-dominican-shortstop-jelfry-marte/

 

[Tom Froemming]

Holy smokes! Do you ever remember anything like this happening, especially with such a high-profile signing? 

[Vanimal46]

Wow, this is a potential game changer for the Twins... 

[Jerr]

Something must be in the works, and the Twins' front office? Sure are not acting like that of old....

 

[Seth Stohs]

 

Holy smokes! Do you ever remember anything like this happening, especially with such a high-profile signing? 

 

I'm sure it has. I can't think of an example. 

[Seth Stohs]

Please note... I have updated the original post after JJ Cooper tweeted that this does not give the Twins an extra $3 million. 

 

 

Likely, this decision on Marte was made a few weeks ago and that's why the Twins go to $3.2 million available... Otherwise, they would have been at $0.2 million.

[Jerr]

Well, hopefully this does not blowup, on the Twins' medical staff as a misdiagnosis          

[Tom Froemming]

Man, I sure hope the Twins are able to do something with that $. Kind of a bummer things didn't work out, Marte was a very highly thought of prospect. 

[gunnarthor]

Real bummer. Hope the kid is ok in the long run. 

[gunnarthor]

 

Please note... I have updated the original post after JJ Cooper tweeted that this does not give the Twins an extra $3 million. 

 

 

Likely, this decision on Marte was made a few weeks ago and that's why the Twins go to $3.2 million available... Otherwise, they would have been at $0.2 million.

But there were reports before Marte's release came out that the Twins had something like 3m+ (along with Yankees and I think the Rangers).  

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/latest-on-shohei-otani-4.html

 

MLBTraderumors says we have 6m+ https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/twins-void-contract-of-international-signee-jelfry-marte.html

 

[GP830]

So now-- we still have the same intl pool money but no Marte? 

[nicksaviking]

It seems odd that no one here has implicitly stated the obvious conspiracy theory involving the Twins and international bonus money. 

 

Just so we're clear, we have silently decided as a group not to not speak out loud the name of everyone's most hopeful holiday wish baseball player?    

[gunnarthor]

 

It seems odd that no one here has implicitly stated the obvious conspiracy theory involving the Twins and international bonus money. 

 

Just so we're clear, we have silently decided as a group not to not speak out loud the name of everyone's most hopeful holiday wish baseball player?    

I linked to two articles about him ...

[Tom Froemming]

 

It seems odd that no one here has implicitly stated the obvious conspiracy theory involving the Twins and international bonus money. 

 

Just so we're clear, we have silently decided as a group not to not speak out loud the name of everyone's most hopeful holiday wish baseball player?    

What could this possibly have to do with Yu Darvish

[Craig Arko]

 

It seems odd that no one here has implicitly stated the obvious conspiracy theory involving the Twins and international bonus money. 

 

They found out he's Roy Moore's illegitimate son?

[Seth Stohs]

 

But there were reports before Marte's release came out that the Twins had something like 3m+ (along with Yankees and I think the Rangers).  

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/latest-on-shohei-otani-4.html

 

MLBTraderumors says we have 6m+ https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/11/twins-void-contract-of-international-signee-jelfry-marte.html

 

There's definitely some confusion here. I'll trust JJ Cooper and Ben Badler, but obviously MLBTR usually is pretty accurate too.

 

I looked it up. The Twins went into the International signing period with $5.25 million to spend. I don't have a full listing of who all they have signed. I know there were two other big name guys besides Marte that they signed. 

 

$5.25 million + the $0.5 million from the Nationals (Kintzler trade) = $5.75 million total.

[Seth Stohs]

JJ Cooper clarifies:

 

 

 

To try to clear up any confusion. The AP reported last week the Twins had $3.2 million to spend internationally. The Marte voided deal was $3 million of that $3.2 million they have available, but the Marte voiding wasn't known publicly til @BenBadler reported it today.

 

[Squirrel]

 

Real bummer. Hope the kid is ok in the long run. 

Thank you.

[twinsfanstreif]

JJ Cooper clarifies:

 

https://twitter.com/jjcoop36/status/930829687231860739

Still doesn't add up though, what happened to the 500k we got in the Kintzler deal?

[Seth Stohs]

 

Still doesn't add up though, what happened to the 500k we got in the Kintzler deal?

 

I don't know why that wouldn't have been factored into this... I'm sure it was.

[Winston Smith]

My guess is the other 4 players used up the other 2+ mill in money. If Urdaneta and Andijar signed for anything over $300k that would likely use up the money. 

 

Jelfry Marte, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 13 prospect), $3 million.
Carlos Aguiar, of, Venezuela (No. 30 prospect) $1,000,000
Luis Baez, of, Dominican Republic, $300,000.
Nomar Urdaneta, ss, Venezuela  ??$
Jose Andujar, of, Dominican Republic ??$
 

[Steve Lein]

 

There's definitely some confusion here. I'll trust JJ Cooper and Ben Badler, but obviously MLBTR usually is pretty accurate too.

 

I looked it up. The Twins went into the International signing period with $5.25 million to spend. I don't have a full listing of who all they have signed. I know there were two other big name guys besides Marte that they signed. 

 

$5.25 million + the $0.5 million from the Nationals (Kintzler trade) = $5.75 million total.

 

This is the signing list from Baseball America:

 

Minnesota Twins
Jelfry Marte, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 13 prospect), $3 million.
Carlos Aguiar, of, Venezuela (No. 30 prospect), ($1 million per Berardino)
Luis Baez, of, Dominican Republic, $300,000.
Nomar Urdaneta, ss, Venezuela
Jose Andujar, of, Dominican Republic
 

5.75 - 4.3 = 1.45.

 

For this to make sense Urdaneta and Andujar had to sign for a total of 1.25 million. Which for some reason I don't believe, but have nothing to back that up.

[twinsfanstreif]

I don't know why that wouldn't have been factored into this... I'm sure it was.

So prior to trading Kintzler and this move we were 250k over our allotment?

[Seth Stohs]

 

This is the signing list from Baseball America:

 

Minnesota Twins
Jelfry Marte, ss, Dominican Republic (No. 13 prospect), $3 million.
Carlos Aguiar, of, Venezuela (No. 30 prospect), ($1 million per Berardino)
Luis Baez, of, Dominican Republic, $300,000.
Nomar Urdaneta, ss, Venezuela
Jose Andujar, of, Dominican Republic
 

5.75 - 4.3 = 1.45.

 

For this to make sense Urdaneta and Andujar had to sign for a total of 1.25 million. Which for some reason I don't believe, but have nothing to back that up.

 

I'm pretty sure they signed more than just these five players. I would bet another 10-12 players, at least, and most of them for over the $10K that goes into the math.

[Seth Stohs]

 

So prior to trading Kintzler and this move we were 250k over our allotment?

 

I don't think Aguilar signed until August or something. 

[amjgt]

Here's what I don't understand.... If the Twins have been widely reported to have around $3M that could be used to sign Otani, and we all know the Twins started with $5.25M and added $500k, as well as the widely reported $3M signing bonus to Marte, how did nobody do the math and ask how $3M bonus money left was possible?

[gunnarthor]

 

Here's what I don't understand.... If the Twins have been widely reported to have around $3M that could be used to sign Otani, and we all know the Twins started with $5.25M and added $500k, as well as the widely reported $3M signing bonus to Marte, how did nobody do the math and ask how $3M bonus money left was possible?

We're dumb?

[Seth Stohs]

 

Here's what I don't understand.... If the Twins have been widely reported to have around $3M that could be used to sign Otani, and we all know the Twins started with $5.25M and added $500k, as well as the widely reported $3M signing bonus to Marte, how did nobody do the math and ask how $3M bonus money left was possible?

 

That's a great question... one I've asked myself several times this morning already. 

[Guest]

You have to wonder what they found wrong with the eyes of a 16 year-old. Most things can be fixed simply. Is there any kind of legal risk for cutting him if the medical report is insignificant?

[Winston Smith]

 

Here's what I don't understand.... If the Twins have been widely reported to have around $3M that could be used to sign Otani, and we all know the Twins started with $5.25M and added $500k, as well as the widely reported $3M signing bonus to Marte, how did nobody do the math and ask how $3M bonus money left was possible?

It's an unwritten rule, no math on Twins Daily!!