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    Will Pohlad Family Cut Minnesota Twins Payroll Another $30 Million in 2026? Dan Hayes Thinks So

    On an appearance on the YouTube show "Foul Territory" last week, The Athletic's Twins beat writer speculated that the club's payroll could dive all the way to $100 million by Opening Day 2026.

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    In the wake of the team's aggressive moves at the trade deadline and the subsequent announcement that the Pohlad family will retain control of the franchise, Twins fans have spent much of the last three weeks wondering whether the team will enjoy more investment from ownership over the next few years. On the contrary, when he appeared on the YouTube show "Foul Territory" on August 14, The Athletic beat writer Dan Hayes speculated that payroll will shrink in 2026—perhaps by $30 million or more.

    It's too early to assume this is an accurate projection; that's why Hayes himself has yet to write a story around that forecast. It will be at least mid-October before the team settles on its budget for 2026, and even then, we saw more money shake loose for the team late last offseason. Teams don't make final decisions about how to allocate resources for the coming offseason in August; Hayes's reporting is strictly based on background chatter and his own assessment of the team's payroll as it projects right now.

    We can already begin to do that assessment ourselves, though, and it's not terribly hard to see what Hayes is seeing—especially if one assumes, as is always wise, that he's plugged in as well as is possible to the team's thinking at this early stage of turning toward next year. Let's take a look at the current payroll picture, to understand what it means when Hayes speculates such a slashing of spending this winter.

    Locked-in Money
    It makes sense to start with the player who isn't going anywhere, and the monetary obligation that can't be traded. The former is Byron Buxton, who continues to profess his love of playing for the Twins and who has a no-trade clause. The $15 million he'll make in 2026 is a non-negotiable cornerstone of the payroll, just as he's the cornerstone of the team.

    The other cornerstone was supposed to be Carlos Correa, of course, but he went to Houston via trade on July 31. In the process, the Twins agreed to pay the Astros $10 million per year from 2026 through 2028. (In case you're wondering, trading obligations like those in other, later deals is not allowed.) That brings us quickly to $25 million, and there are still 25 Opening Day roster spots to fill. Let's talk, then, about the guys who will soak up the majority of the remaining money—unless they're sent packing.

    Big But Movable
    Unlike Buxton, Pablo López doesn't have a no-trade clause in the extension he signed with the team in 2023. He's set to make $21.5 million in 2026, but it's not at all clear that the Twins will be the ones paying that. López is a great pitcher and an even better presence in the clubhouse, but for those very reasons, he'll also have terrific trade value this winter. For the moment, stack him with Buxton and the ghost of Correa and we're up to $46.5 million, but it wouldn't be surprising at all if he's dealt.

    Two players are in line to receive smaller but substantial salaries via the arbitration process this winter, too. Ryan Jeffers will be arbitration-eligible for the final time before becoming a free agent at the end of the 2026 season, and is already making $4.55 million this year. Expect that number to be around $7.5 million next year. Joe Ryan could make just as much, despite only being in his second year of arbitration eligibility; being one year further from free agency; and making just $3 million this year. His All-Star season and career-best run of health and reliability will send that number skyward.

    Both Ryan and Jeffers are good candidates for contract extensions, but at this moment, it's hard to guess whether the Twins see themselves as being in position to offer them those deals. Certainly, the deadline fire sale did little to engender any interest in such a commitment from the players' side. Right now, let's call this group $36.5 million in projected salary—but write it in pencil, instead of pen.

    Stalled-Out Players in Arbitration Phase
    Ryan and Jeffers have had strong years, and Jeffers is at a stage of the arbitration cycle where players get more earning power almost by default. Thus, they're likely to get the hefty raises we just described. On the other hand, Bailey Ober ($3.55 million), Trevor Larnach ($2.1 million) and Royce Lewis ($1.625 million) are all having inconsistent, even discouraging seasons after their first trips through arbitration. None of them will get to what Jeffers and Ryan will make next year.

    Ober has been the best of that set and has the highest platform salary, so it's possible he'll make $7 million. Some of that, like everything else we're talking about here, depends on how the final six weeks of the season go. Larnach could be in line to make as much as $5 million, but if the Twins project him to earn that much, he's likely to be non-tendered. A better estimate might be $4.5 million. Lewis should get to the north side of $3 million, but his season has been a disaster and he has less earning power than Larnach right now.

    We'll use that same pencil, again, to write in $15.5 million for these three. Along with the bundles above, we're up to $77 million already. But now, we get to the part where the team racks up some savings.

    Locked in at the League Minimum
    Several players whom the team seems almost certain to retain won't be eligible for arbitration even next year. Each of them represents a roster spot for which the club will only pay roughly $800,000 over the full season. In rough order of clear utility and security as parts of the team's future, those guys are:

    That's a vital sextet for the team, and it'll cost only $4.8 million. Though their places are not quite as established or secure, another handful of players in the same bracket can also be penciled in, averaging that same $800,000 per person.

    This is half a roster (although not a very good one) making a total of just $10.4 million. If we discount the possibility of non-tendering Larnach or trading any of the López-Jeffers-Ryan class, for now, we're at 20 roster spots accounted for and $87.4 million. There are just a few more cases to consider, before we start imagining all of this in a more concrete way.

    Low-Dollar Arb Dudes
    We're putting them last, but almost no one has a safer roster spot for next year than this small group of guys who have almost no earning power and have played major roles on the 2025 team. Kody Clemens is almost a lock to get over the line and be eligible for arbitration as a Super Two guy. Cole Sands will have more than three years of service time, so he's automatically eligible, and Justin Topa will be eligible for the final time before becoming a free agent. Even before the fire sale, these guys had roles on the big-league team, but Clemens has been the starting first baseman for weeks now and Topa and Sands are the aces of this war-torn bullpen.

    Multiple Twins have pointed to Clemens as one of the best teammates in the whole clubhouse. Though he's not an elite slugger, he's more than worth the paltry $1.3 million he might make next year. Ditto for Sands and Topa. As a group, these three might get to $5 million, or they might not even make it that far. It would be a mild shock to see the team non-tender any of them, although they'll probably draw a hard line with each and keep them only if they can get a deal done before arbitration figures need to be exchanged.

    What's Left to Do, and What's Left to Do It With
    We're over $92 million now, and the team we're sketching is not a good one. There are just a few roster spots left to fill, but trades or non-tenders could create another four or five such spots. It sure seems like, even if the Twins have only $100 million or $110 million to spend on 2026, they have money to spend in free agency. The question is how much—and whether those free agents will be tasked with replacing more outgoing guys, or with filling the gaps left by last month's trades (bullpen depth, the back end of the rotation, the outfield) and by expected free-agent departures (backup catcher).

    Twins fans are right to demand real upgrades, rather than such patches. The team has several great prospects in the upper levels of the minors who should make their debuts next year, but they also have several players penciled into major roles who were great prospects a few years ago and now look like parts of the problem, rather than the solution. If Hayes is correct in his speculation, though, no such influx of high-end talent is forthcoming. The Twins can run a payroll around $30 million lower than this year's even if they keep López, Ryan and Jeffers, but in that case, they're likely to be back in the same place next July, and perhaps those three would be traded then. For the club to move forward and have a more successful 2026, it seems as though they'll need to either match (or increase) spending or make savvy trades of at least one of that high-earning trio. Since Hayes's ballpark figure makes the former feel unlikely, the latter possibility will continue to be a hot topic as the offseason comes into view on the horizon.

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    15 minutes ago, terrydactyls said:

    A question about position #23.  Wouldn't Wallner>>>Gonzales/Rosario make league minimum instead of the $2.2M you have?

    Wallner starts the season in the OF and is forced into a primary DH role by an OF prospect that plays better defense.  Of course, it's possible he gets traded at some point in 2026.  The 2.2 assumes allows for the possibility he steps up and remains with the team or remains with the team in a diminished role.  It won't make much difference ($1.4m) either way so in terms of payroll it's not much of an issue.

    1. The Twins are not looking to be a playoff contender in ‘26.   They know they don’t have the roster and they don’t have the money to do anything about that.  Besides, Rocco is supposed to be back and there is no way Rocco can win with a young roster.

    2. The Pohlads are looking to cut costs and reduce their losses in what is certainly going to be a down year in ‘26.  Why throw good money after bad, especially when TV money can’t bail you out.

    3. There is not going to be baseball in ‘27, at least not very much of it (best case scenario). This is another reason to cut payroll and hoard young talent in ‘26.  It also means that high cost players currently under control for two more years (Lopez, Ryan, and even Jeffers and Ober) really only have one year of control left.  And none of them are coming back in ‘28.  Zero chance of that. Given the intention is not to win in ‘26, but to develop young talent, there is much more value in trading those players this off-season for even more young (cheap) projectable talent than there is in paying/keeping them for a futile ‘26. Lopez and Ryan should and will be traded.

    4. The Pohlads do want to sell.  They didn’t sell this year because they couldn’t get the price they wanted given the team’s poor financial condition, performance and outlook.   They think they can get more value by holding on to the team into ‘28 by cutting costs, getting a new TV deal, a better CBA, and effecting a rebuild.  Look for the team to be back on the sale docket in ‘28. Sadly, this is probably the smart decision.

    So it’s going to be an additional couple of tough years for us Twins fans.  But we can all comfort ourselves by reading TD articles about how good and can’t miss our prospects are.

    Just now, Major League Ready said:

    Why must we trade Pablo's salary?  With him they are still under $100M.   Ryan will be the first to be traded because he would bring back two top 100 prospects and one of them would be a 1-3 ranked prospect for most teams.  Those are key components in getting to the next level.   Then, trade whichever player brings back the best package between Pablo and Ober.  Keep one of them around for veteran presence.  Pablo impresses me as the better veteran presence. 

    Waiting until the deadline to trade Ryan is a huge mistake unless for some reason a great return is not presented this winter.  The return should be better this winter and they avoid injury risk.   My guess is that Ryan is by far the most likely of the three to be traded.  Keeping him would be a failure to commit to a rebuild which is the would be truly unfortunate.   

    This would leave us with Ober/Matthews/Festa/SWR/Bradley/Able/Morris who are ready and a couple of Rojas / Raya / Prelipp / Culpepper and should be ready at some point in 2026.  Of course, it's possible perhaps even likely they get a SP for Ryan or Ober that will be ready for 2026 or at some point in 2026.

    Trading Pablo's salary isn't a must, but it seems like the most cost impactful move. It will be an easier trade to make than Ryan. There are young, cheap arms to bring up to back fill the rotation. It will be the same with Ober. 

     

    A Ryan trade would have nothing to do with salary, but instead be a compensation move. The tough part is it will be a very scrutinized deal and a difficult one to do. Also, new partners might be less inclined to be ok with getting rid of one of the two most recognizable players the Twins have. 

     

    The idea is to pay off the debt that is making the sale unattractive, and prepare for the potential lockout. Not necessarily deal everyone of value.

    Hmmm... Do all the naysayers out there still believe that Lopez and/or Ryan will be a part of the rotation next year? Do all the naysayers still believe the Twins will carry a payroll north of $100m? Everybody that is suggesting that the Twins will spend this offseason has not been paying attention.

    You have to truly look at Ober and Larnach as move candidates as well. The only move that would really surprise me would be Jeffers because of positional scarcity.

     

    2 minutes ago, Nashvilletwin said:

    1. The Twins are not looking to be a playoff contender in ‘26.   They know they don’t have the roster and they don’t have the money to do anything about that.  Besides, Rocco is supposed to be back and there is no way Rocco can win with a young roster.

    2. The Pohlads are looking to cut costs and reduce their losses in what is certainly going to be a down year in ‘26.  Why throw good money after bad, especially when TV money can’t bail you out.

    3. There is not going to be baseball in ‘27, at least not very much of it (best case scenario). This is another reason to cut payroll and hoard young talent in ‘26.  It also means that high cost players currently under control for two more years (Lopez, Ryan, and even Jeffers and Ober) really only have one year of control left.  And none of them are coming back in ‘28.  Zero chance of that. Given the intention is not to win in ‘26, but to develop young talent, there is much more value in trading those players this off-season for even more young (cheap) projectable talent than there is in paying/keeping them for a futile ‘26. Lopez and Ryan should and will be traded.

    4. The Pohlads do want to sell.  They didn’t sell this year because they couldn’t get the price they wanted given the team’s poor financial condition, performance and outlook.   They think they can get more value by holding on to the team into ‘28 by cutting costs, getting a new TV deal, a better CBA, and effecting a rebuild.  Look for the team to be back on the sale docket in ‘28. Sadly, this is probably the smart decision.

    So it’s going to be an additional couple of tough years for us Twins fans.  But we can all comfort ourselves by reading TD articles about how good and can’t miss our prospects are.

    Yeah I hate to say it, but they are just trying to get into better position to sell the team.  Lowering payroll should enable them to help pay down the debt which helps them up their return. 

    There also could be a long lockout and who knows how that will work out and if there truly is no baseball for a year getting rid of older expensive assets makes some sense for teams like the Twins. Also if expansion is included in the CBA and happens it sounds like all the owners will get a cut  of whatever the franchise cost is so I'm sure they won't want to sell until that money comes in.

    It's a business, I get it, but I don't know if my fandom can survive it.  I guess we'll find out. Maybe if the young guys can find a way to get it done it won't be so bad?

    11 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

    Why must we trade Pablo's salary?  With him they are still under $100M.   Ryan will be the first to be traded because he would bring back two top 100 prospects and one of them would be a 1-3 ranked prospect for most teams.  Those are key components in getting to the next level.   Then, trade whichever player brings back the best package between Pablo and Ober.  Keep one of them around for veteran presence.  Pablo impresses me as the better veteran presence. 

    Waiting until the deadline to trade Ryan is a huge mistake unless for some reason a great return is not presented this winter.  The return should be better this winter and they avoid injury risk.   My guess is that Ryan is by far the most likely of the three to be traded.  Keeping him would be a failure to commit to a rebuild which is the would be truly unfortunate.   

    This would leave us with Ober/Matthews/Festa/SWR/Bradley/Able/Morris who are ready and a couple of Rojas / Raya / Prelipp / Culpepper and should be ready at some point in 2026.  Of course, it's possible perhaps even likely they get a SP for Ryan or Ober that will be ready for 2026 or at some point in 2026.

    A true and deep rebuild gets rid of veteran salary and that's why you trade Pablo. I am NOT FOR THIS, just saying why. Pablo will bring back a stud prospect for sure. On Joe Ryan - we will enter 2026 with perhaps the #2 or #3 farm system as it stands, especially if Pablo gets traded. We don't NEED to trade Joe to have a top tier system - and keeping him gives us a chance. Now if we stink it up in 2026 Joe still brings perhaps what he'd bring this winter, at the 2026 trade deadline. We give up hardly nothing by keeping him till next July, unless he gets hurt, or sucks. A #1 starter is really hard to come by. Joe can be/and might already be a #1. Pablo is good, and a real good #3, but Joe could be special. Too special to trade yet I think.

    1 hour ago, hitterscount said:

    I'll save the Pohlands 8 million. Dump Rocco and I will manage the team for 2 mil....1 million if you keep Lopez, Ryan and bring up Abel next year. That's the offer, waiting by the phone.

    For a team going to ridiculous lengths to save money they would never pay that kind of money in a guaranteed contract to a fired employee. Plus firing him would be admitting mistake. That will never happen. 

    17 minutes ago, P Meyer said:

    It's largely going to be the same team we are seeing now.  

    A few of the players will be back but if the roster still contains most of the current group all hope for the franchise is lost. There must be a half dozen transactions to change the team dynamics. Slow, defensively challenged players who cannot hit don't need more experience. They need new uniforms. I expect major changes. That is my last hope.

    2 hours ago, Dennesey55347 said:

    The past decade has been the beginning of the end of quality Twins baseball. It's also the end of the difference-making, offensive free agent era, unless we overpay. Every talented position player brought up from the minors turns out to be another underdeveloped, expendable guy the Twins hold onto for too long. The current tank might net us yet another solid player, but I already know his fate based on the dozens before him. Fully detached, personally, but glance at stats here and there after checking on the quality org's players first. So, so many exciting studs out there.

    On a positive note, trimming payroll increases the chances of having a row of seats all to myself should I ever purchase a ticket. 

     

     

    Why is it every talented player they bring up from the minors turns out to be underdeveloped and expendable - one word, Baldelli! The worst manager in all of baseball.

    16 minutes ago, T.O. said:

    For a team going to ridiculous lengths to save money they would never pay that kind of money in a guaranteed contract to a fired employee. Plus firing him would be admitting mistake. That will never happen. 

    Analytic guy didn't believe Rocco was making 10 mil/year. Digger deepiing it appears it is more like 2.4 million. AI let me down and cannot be trusted.

    With that I withdraw my offer. I need a roster with MLB talent to right this ship.

    Here we go again talking about what the Twins payroll will be.  Or should be?

    I believe the Brewers payroll this year is just a bit over $100M.  Isn't Cleveland a bit under $100M?  The topic we should be talking about is what the Twins are doing with their payroll.  Whatever level it is at.

    The Twins can win with a +/- $100M payroll as others are doing it.  Can this front office and on field coaching staff do what is needed to make the Twins a winner?  That's the question.  At least for me.

    35 minutes ago, Nashvilletwin said:

    4. The Pohlads do want to sell.  They didn’t sell this year because they couldn’t get the price they wanted given the team’s poor financial condition, performance and outlook.   They think they can get more value by holding on to the team into ‘28 by cutting costs, getting a new TV deal, a better CBA, and effecting a rebuild.  Look for the team to be back on the sale docket in ‘28. Sadly, this is probably the smart decision.

    I think this is partly right. They didn't sell controlling interest because they couldn't get the price they wanted...but also because they found a solution to their cash issues that let them keep the team, which is an asset that will continue to appreciate. If they get back to their bottom tier spending ways and start turning an operating profit again, they'll be perfectly happy to continue on owning the team and letting Joe Pohlad keep steering the ship for the family.

    They've likely generated between $450-$500M in cash from what we've heard so far (more than 20% sold and at a valuation above the $1.7B, supposedly); if they use that to wipe the debt off, there's still money left to do a distribution to the Pohlad family to give them a cash infusion for other businesses/activity. They can run 2026 at a profit by not spending on players and dropping the payroll to $75M, and use that to get through the lockout we're likely to see in 2027. If they're in a better financial position in 2028, why would they sell? The asset will continue to appreciate, they're not losing money any longer, and they have a family member willing & eager to be the front man. We could be stuck with them for another 10-15 effing years.

    I mean, I hope you're right: I hope the Pohlads sell the rest after 2027, if not sooner. But I'm not betting on it. And I'm certainly not going to bet that fan hatred will move them one bit. Most people wouldn't know a Pohlad if they came up and bit them on the leg, and it's easy enough for them to skip out on going to games, especially since most of them aren't all that into baseball anyways.

    Our ownership situation sucks.

    2 hours ago, In My La Z boy said:

    A true and deep rebuild gets rid of veteran salary and that's why you trade Pablo. I am NOT FOR THIS, just saying why. Pablo will bring back a stud prospect for sure. On Joe Ryan - we will enter 2026 with perhaps the #2 or #3 farm system as it stands, especially if Pablo gets traded. We don't NEED to trade Joe to have a top tier system - and keeping him gives us a chance. Now if we stink it up in 2026 Joe still brings perhaps what he'd bring this winter, at the 2026 trade deadline. We give up hardly nothing by keeping him till next July, unless he gets hurt, or sucks. A #1 starter is really hard to come by. Joe can be/and might already be a #1. Pablo is good, and a real good #3, but Joe could be special. Too special to trade yet I think.

    We just see the situation differently.   I don't subscribe to the theory that we should hold onto players during a rebuild because we already have a highly ranked farm system.  Improving the system improves the likelihood of success in the post rebuild years and Ryan is the type of player that brings back premium prospects. That's always key to building a new core.   

    I don't agree we give up nothing to keep him until the trade deadline.  The return is generally better in the off-season and we avoid the risk of injury or underperformance which is substantial.  The most attractive players to trade during a rebuild are the star players.  Garrett Crochet for example.   The Royals most likely don't win the WS had they held on to Greinke.  Holding on to that type of player has the highest future cost which is a bad idea when there is little present benefit in terms of playoff aspirations, and you have decided to play for the future.  

    1 minute ago, Major League Ready said:

    We just see the situation differently.   I don't prescribe to the theory that we should hold onto players during a rebuild because we already have a highly ranked farm system.  Improving the system improves the likelihood of success in the post rebuild years and Ryan is the type of player that brings back premium prospects. That's always key to building a new core.   

    I don't agree we give up nothing to keep him until the trade deadline.  The return is generally better in the off-season and we avoid the risk of injury or underperformance which is substantial.  The most attractive players to trade during a rebuild are the star players.  Garrett Crochet for example.   The Royals most likely don't win the WS had they held on to Greinke.  Holding on to that type of player has the highest future cost which is a bad idea when there is little present benefit in terms of playoff aspirations, and you have decided to play for the future.  

    Wish I had more faith in our player development department. I'd agree if I thought we could turn these kids into stars. Big fail on position players in the Falvey era, and now with the kind of year Lewis, Wallner and Larnach have had - those 3 were each 1st round draft picks, and along with Lee, who looks like a bench player, what have we got with our last 5 or 6 #1 picks? Kirilloff & Rooker were also #1's. Falvey seems good w/Pitchers and awful with position players on drafting & developing.

    I don't see the Twins spending much this offseason, just some bullpen help.  Will their payroll be under $100M...who knows.  Nobody knows what the Twins number is, but it is likely they will have to have a payroll close to $100M to avoid a grievance from MLBPA.  

    I do see the them being active on the trade market.  I can see them making moves that help now and in the future.  For example, there is quite a bit of speculation that Aaron Judge is moving to first base after this year  That moves Ben Rice behind the plate and the need to fill RF.  Austin Wells has been seeing limited playing time recently .  I can see the Twins trading Larnach or Wallner (plus a prospect if needed to even out) for Austin Wells (who can play C or 1B) who would be under team control through 2029.  That is purely a hypothetical trade, but I can see the Twins making moves similar to that.   

    Don't look now but perennial All-Star and two-time Hall of Fame inductee Luke Keaschall is OPSing .604 in his last ten games.  Buckle up and strap in - 2026 will be a bumpy ride.

    4 minutes ago, ashbury said:

    Don't look now but perennial All-Star and two-time Hall of Fame inductee Luke Keaschall is OPSing .603 in his last ten games.  Buckle up and strap in - 2026 will be a bumpy ride.

    As an optimist i prefer to look at this as a renewed opportunity to ink "The Luke Abides" to a team friendly lifetime contract.

     

    3 hours ago, Cory Engelhardt said:

    You mean to tell me that when the Pohlads say they want to win that they may not mean exactly that? Ugh

    I think their definition of 'winning' is different than the fan's version of the same word.  

    3 hours ago, Doug Y said:

    If they trade Pablo Lopez and Joe Ryan, it’s a 3-4 year rebuild. The Pohlad’s are terrible owners, but don’t you think it’s about time for a salary floor and salary cap?

    If they arent going to spend might as well totally rebuild. 

    If the Pohlands don't use the money they got from selling minory stakes in the team to pay off THEIR own debts, the teams gonna lose more fans and revenue. Extending Baldelli already is gonna lose fans, and games! I see us being around a 60-75 win team next season at MOST. If we truly want to go in a new direction we'd hire on a new skipper and hitting coach. Id probably keep Maki around as pitching coach but that's it!

    2 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

    Here is a projected payroll for next year.  Of course, we have to make some assumptions.  I come up with around $77M if they trade Pable and Ryan which I suspect they will.  Larnach is traded as well.  This also includes adding two RPs at a salary of $5M each.  Correa's $10M is included.

    There are a couple other assumptions here that don't mean much in terms of payroll.  Culpepper eventually takes over for Lee at SS moving Lee to a utility IF role.  The year starts with Fitzgerald in that utility role but it could be Eeles or they could sign a Wili Castro equivalent for a bench role.  Of course, the return for Ryan/Lopez has a good chance of containing pieces that fit in at some point in 2026.

    1 Bailey Ober 7,000,000
    2 Zebby Matthews 820,000
    3 Taj Bradley 820,000
    4 David Festa 820,000
    5 SWR 820,000
         
      Relief Pitchers  
    6 Cole Sands 820,000
    7 LH Free Agent  5,000,000
    8 RH Free Agent  5,000,000
    9 Michael Tonkin 1,750,000
    10 Justin Topa 1,750,000
    11 Travis Adams 820,000
    12 Andrew Morris 820,000
    13 Funderburk 820,000
         
         
      Catchers  
    14 Ryan Jeffers 6,500,000
    15 Cardenas  /  Trade  /  FA 6,000,000
         
      Infielders  
    1B Fedko / Julien / Sabato 820,000
    2B Luke Keaschall 820,000
    3B Royce Lewis 3,000,000
    SS Brooks Lee  >>> Kaelen Culpepper 820,000
         
      Utility Players  
    20 Kody Clemens  820,000
    21 Fitzgerald  >>>  Brooks Lee 820,000
    22 Kyler Fedko 820,000
    23 Wallner  >>> Gonzalez / Rosario 2,200,000
         
         
      Outfielders  
    24 Wallner  >>> Jenkins 820,000
    25 Byron Buxton  CF 15,142,857
    26 Roden  >>> Gonzalez or Erod 820,000
         
      Carlos Correa 10,000,000
         
      TOTAL PAYROLL    76,462,857

    I can't see this happening - too optimistic for me when it comes to the Pohlads.

    While I think you're right that they'll move on from Lopez and Ryan - I can't see them giving $7M to Ober when he's been hurt and we have so much CHEAP young pitching supposedly ready to go.  Abel?

    I also can't possibly imagine they pay 2 relievers $5M each!  They've never invested in relief pitching - I expect 2 more min salary guys here.

    Lastly - They are certainly not going to pay $6M for a backup catcher.  I think we'll be lucky to keep Jeffers around, his back-up will certainly be a min salary guy.

    Other than that - I think you're pretty close.  Using most of your figures and swapping out my thoughts above - my payroll prediction would be around $56,742,857

    Not sure how low we need to go before MLB steps in and tells the owners they need to spend money (like they did with the A's), but I expect they'll try to find out.

    1 hour ago, Woof Bronzer said:

    I'd be more interested in an argument for why the Pohlads WON'T be running lean payrolls.  Does anyone seriously think they did what they did at the deadline for baseball reasons?  What in the Pohlads history for the past 3 decades would lead anyone to believe they are going to suddenly care about winning?  

    It's a lot easier to understand the Pohlads when you understand that everything they do is related to money.  They do not care about the baseball at all.    

    They brought on a couple investors to pay off their debt (billionaire rule #1: never ever spend your own money if you can spend someone else's instead), so the goal for the next few years will be paying back the investors.  They'll drive costs down as far as they can.  From a baseball perspective the goal will be to field A Team.  Not a good team, not a serious team, not a well-constructed team, but just a list of cheap players that fill out a roster.  (For a preview, look at their current roster.)  They'll sign a bunch of 34-year old washups on 1 year deals and keep young guys in the minors as long as they can save a few arb nickels in 2032.  Just a collection of guys they can trot out at Target Field 81 times a year for that sweet, sweet gate.  

    They're not reloading, they're not rebuilding, they're just recalibrating the operating budget downward.  

    From everything I've heard - Joe wants to win.  Problem is he only gets one vote, and the rest of the family really doesn't care about on-field performance much.

    14 minutes ago, farmerguychris said:

    From everything I've heard - Joe wants to win.  Problem is he only gets one vote, and the rest of the family really doesn't care about on-field performance much.

    What a mess. My business landlord runs a major shopping center. He is the youngest son with 6 older siblings. The siblings only care about getting their money, while this landlord cares about running a good center. He's thinking about selling and cannot take the family pressure always for more money out of the tenants. Family business is this way when most of the family members are outside the business and are reliant upon the business to fund their lifestyle. This is where we're at.

    42 minutes ago, In My La Z boy said:

    Wish I had more faith in our player development department. I'd agree if I thought we could turn these kids into stars. Big fail on position players in the Falvey era, and now with the kind of year Lewis, Wallner and Larnach have had - those 3 were each 1st round draft picks, and along with Lee, who looks like a bench player, what have we got with our last 5 or 6 #1 picks? Kirilloff & Rooker were also #1's. Falvey seems good w/Pitchers and awful with position players on drafting & developing.

    I understand their track record with position players is pretty bad but what's the alternative.  They need to replace 5 of the 8 position players.  The only players that wouldn't need to be replaced are Buxton, Jeffers, and Keaschall and you need 4-5 RPs.  You can't come remotely close to putting a dent in those needs through free agency.  The alternative is to trade away pretty much every good prospect they have and bet on making a run in 2026 and hoping there is a meaningful 2027.  Post 2027 you would be assuring a very long rebuild where they would be horrible.  

    They have the 2B of the future in Keaschall.  With the preface that no prospect is a lock, There is a pretty good chance Culpepper and Jenkins are here by July 1, 2026.  Wallner is decent so he stays until one of Rodriguez/GG/Rosario or Fedko push him to the bench or out all together.  We should not give up on Lewis just yet.  At least Lewis has become a good defender.  Add to this list whatever they get for Ryan/Ober/Lopez and what should be a top 5 pick next year.  

    By 2027 they should field a respectable team and the potential to sustain a run of several years in the playoffs by 2028.  Granted, that's an optimistic view but it does not change the odds that staying the course on this rebuild provides the best probability of success.

    At this point, the payroll is not important. The team needs position players who can be counted on in 2-3 years and forward. The pitching side can always be improved but looks better. Of course, trading the established starters weakens the pitching but it is the only path towards acquiring talent. 

    The dark side of the transactions and roster building is that it is impossible to know if any team is willing to trade a top prospect (much less more) for Ryan and whether the Twins can return anything worthwhile for their other tradable players (Lopez, Ober, Jeffers, Lewis, Larnach, Wallner). Another concern is whether the Twins front office can identify talented players.

    The franchise is a mess and the ownership problem is just the tip of the iceberg.

    This is the perfect Pohlad scenario.  They can say that they are open to spending a little, as in getting the payroll to the $110-$120 million range, but never actually achieve it.  They will send Falvey and Zoll out into the ether and make phone calls on all of the quality free agents available so they can get the story out to the Star Tribune and Dan Hayes at the Athletic that they were in on this guy and that guy and every guy that makes them look like they are trying to reload and compete in 2026.  It will read like a bad Dr. Seuss book.  They already have the fanbase so crushed that they will look at it, see that they have seen this song and dance before, and go back to their lives forgetting that they were supposed to be outraged.  Falvey will get to say that they just couldn't get any impactful free agents to sign with the Twins and while the Pohlads were willing to run a higher payroll, it just didn't work out.  

    As for the Twins trading Lopez or Ryan, sadly enough, Ryan seems to be the better candidate to be traded.  I think trading Lopez may draw the ire of the MLBPA to file a grievance, much like they threatened to with the A's this year.  The A's responded by signing Rooker to an extension and signing Severino to a decent contract.  The Twins may end up trading Lopez but given his return from injury and the MLBPA peering eyes, Lopez is a better trade deadline candidate for next season than an offseason trade chip.

    One suggestion for the Pohlads to keep fans coming to the game.  Steal the idea from the Rockies.  Have a bar at the stadium sell cheap beer so that fans will buy cheap tickets just to get into the ballpark and drink cheap beer all game long.  It works for the Rockies as the younger people pack into the bar for the cheap beer, as it's cheaper than anywhere else in the area.  It works because the Rockies, even as bad as they are this season, will outdraw the Twins this season and I would argue that there are many more things to do in the Denver area than there is in downtown Minneapolis.

    Perfect scenario for the Pohlads.  They get to slash payroll, prepare for a lockout for the 2027 season, and likely come out of the lockout with a better team valuation so they can cash out during the 2027 season.




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