Should the Twins Pursue Wil Myers?

35 minutes ago, Dman said:

I think I would skip. Adding around the margins isn't going to change this teams trajectory.  I don't think turning into the MinniCinci Twins is going to work well that is why Cincinnati is getting rid of these guys and building a better younger team.  One that already looks like it might be better than this current Twins team.  

Not a day goes by where I don't think about what this team would look like if they still had Spencer Steer not to mention Christian Encarnacion-Strand waiting at Triple-A. I agree though, I just think Myers could be the right-handed hitting corner outfielder/first baseman this Twins team needs. Also, I think Myers is better option than Kyle Garlick at this very moment. 

35 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Would rather see them add Dalton Guthrie.

Guthrie is an intriguing player. He has performed really well in Triple-A, plus he is younger than Myers. The reason I value Myers more at this very moment is because of his pedigree and what he was able to do with the Padres the last seven-or-so years. With that being said, Guthrie still has options which adds a great amount of value. I would be content with the Twins adding Myers or Guthrie. 

Prone to huge slumps with a lot of swing and miss- we have enough of those guys.

4 minutes ago, Hans Birkeland said:

Prone to huge slumps with a lot of swing and miss- we have enough of those guys.

Do you think the fact that he is right-handed makes him more rosterable than Kepler or Gallo?

1 hour ago, Dman said:

I think I would skip. Adding around the margins isn't going to change this teams trajectory.  I don't think turning into the MinniCinci Twins is going to work well that is why Cincinnati is getting rid of these guys and building a better younger team.  One that already looks like it might be better than this current Twins team.  

Take a look at their rotation though. Hunter Greene is the best of the bunch, but he still hasn't ever put it together. Nick Lodolo looked fun for a bit, then he struggled and got hurt. Right now its Andrew Abott (who's been great but its 4 starts) Ben Lively and Luke Weaver, who may be the worst starter in baseball.

9 minutes ago, Cody Schoenmann said:

Do you think the fact that he is right-handed makes him more rosterable than Kepler or Gallo?

I see your point, but any benefit would probably be marginal, and I have heard Myers isn't the best clubhouse guy.

4 minutes ago, Dman said:

Yeah they still need pitching help but I believe they just put together a 10 game winning streak so they must be limping by better than the Twins are.

Yeah, their lineup is definitely electric and I predict that will sustain itself to a degree, but the Reds rotation is far worse than the Twins lineup. Now, if the Reds were to acquire Lucas Giolito or Shane Bieber while having Greene and Lodolo healthy, I do think the Reds would cement themselves as the best team in the NL Central. Personally, I hope they win the NL Central because they are a fun and exciting team to watch and keep up with. 

20 minutes ago, Hans Birkeland said:

I see your point, but any benefit would probably be marginal, and I have heard Myers isn't the best clubhouse guy.

Oh really? I didn't know that about Myers. 

2 minutes ago, chpettit19 said:

Chase Petty and another prospect or 2 is a realistic package for Gray. I wouldn't be mad at that return.

Chase Petty and Casey Legumina for Sonny Gray lol

36 minutes ago, DocBauer said:

I admit to being interested in this idea. Myers was one of the RH bats I wanted signed in the offseason before they switched gears and went defense/speed with Taylor. 

Here is my basic problem: When something isn't working, you need to change course. And the offense didn't work on a consistent basis last year...when healthy...and isn't clicking on any sort of consistent basis this year either. It's time to change gears. And I think Myer is adding a RH version of what already isn't working for the Twins now.

I've seen the Braves switch gears recently, though some of that was injury related as well, and they got dividends. I saw Cleveland run with some kids and it worked last year, not so much this year. And the aforementioned Reds are doing the same and it's starting to work there, seemingly.

I don't hate Kepler by any means. I don't root against him. I'm happy when henhas a good game, gets a hit, or the occasional HR. But the proof of his dwindling production/career is obvious and right up front for everyone to see. It's time to move on and give Larnach and Waller their extended shot. Gallo, pre his recent injury, was looking very much like his former All Star self when in Texas; low AVG, but good OB, BIG power, and good defense wherever he played. But not only is he not part of 2024 and beyond, he's looked pretty bad on his return from the IL. I'm not ready to jettison him just yet. But I'm starting to seriously consider it for all the reasons previously stated.

I honestly think it's time for Larnach and Wallner to just be handed the corners and see what they might turn in to. The Twins would still have the likes of Contreras and Stevens sitting in St Paul if someone got hurt, as a couple depth options. Further, call me crazy if you want, I have hopes Helman will be back soon, and might be a 2nd half RH bat and versatile player as an interesting role player.

Kirilloff can also play both corner OF spots. And while NOT an OF in any way, Miranda just might be ready for another look at some point come July. 

AK, Julien, and Lewis are showing real life. Farmer is a really nice role player and gamer, though not necessarily any sort of daily piece. Solano has been productive in his role, even though he's not part of the future, and I don't see him going anywhere soon because he's actually doing his job, though it's as a smaller piece, role player. Correa and Buxton aren't going anywhere, obviously, and it's important to get them going or the offense might not go anywhere. 

I don't see a spot for Myers unless he passes through waivers and can be brought on cheap, maybe to St Paul initially on a look-see.

When things aren't working, you need to make changes and go a different direction. I think that different direction is no Kepler, maybe no Gallo, and give the younger kids a shot to develop. 

An interesting thought that I heard getting brought up recently was that maybe the Twins don't view Wallner as a long-term corner outfield option either, so that is why they haven't given him an extended look the same way they have Larnach. While I could see that being the case, then one has to ask, what is the long-term corner outfield plan for the Twins? Maybe they are lucky enough to select Wyatt Langford in the upcoming MLB Draft and he can advance through the Twins system quickly like Brooks Lee, maybe the expect Emmanuel Rodriguez to be ready to make his Major League debut by the end of the 2024 season, or maybe they plan on signing or trading for a new left fielder and right fielder this upcoming off-season. It is an interesting conundrum, but no matter what it appears that Kepler and especially Gallo's days with the Twins are numbered. For the rest of this season, the Twins need to find a way to manufacture some sort of offense and more specifically power from the corner outfield spots if they want to win the AL Central. Whether that be from Kepler and Gallo actually being able to turn it around, Larnach being able to produce during his next opportunity, or the front office giving Wallner a real opportunity is yet to be seen. 

30 minutes ago, SteveLV said:

No way with his current contract, possibly as a waiver claim at the pro-rated league minimum.

Doesn't seem to move the needle much, but might add to depth depending on health of existing roster.

I don't think the Twins or any team will claim him, I just threw that out there as being one of the plausible routes they could go down to acquire Myers. If the Twins add Myers, it will be after he is released by the Reds. 

41 minutes ago, DocBauer said:

And this all part of the conundrum of our FO, who I largely like and agree with. They seem to be very progressive, and look at the big picture, and the future, while also being just blinded to certain stats that don't measure up, and have a veteran, scholarship tendency. Despite what's right in front of their eyes, they seem obsessed with "what if" scenarios. They trust some young players, but seem afraid to remove a poorly performing veteran because he MIGHT unlock his potential, even if he's 30 or over 30. Blinders or pride, IDK. But they need to get out of their own way once in a while and keep moving forward. Being stagnant does no good.

Falvey and his constituents are a very process oriented bunch. To me, it has always felt as though they will go to great lengths to not make a reactionary decision or do something significant that may alter the course they have planned for themselves for the sake of avoiding unfavorable outcomes. Now, this is a very good way to approach many situations, including life itself, as it more likely than not will produce more favorable situations for oneself, but when you are managing a baseball organization that is hyper analyzed day in and day out by thousands of people it will eventually be expected that you make a high variance move. I think it is good that Falvey and company are big picture oriented and don't do things on a whim like, say, Jerry DiPoto, for example, but it nonetheless makes the majority of fans upset when things are going poorly and they just sit there and do nothing in the name of the process.