Let’s Make a Deal! What Players Can the Twins Acquire From Colorado?

PLEASE.  Don't even mention Jake Cave.

Click bait article. These suggestions are just band aids on a cut jugular. The Twins have again shown that they aren’t ready for prime time, are just a fringe playoff team with no number one starter and too many under performers like Correa, Buxton, Kiroloff, Vasquez. Margot, and Farmer. And Vasquez is virtually untradeable due to his $10 million contract and dismal performance. So a trade for backup catcher Diaz does little to address the bigger issues. 

Nothing that moves us forward in this article.  Underperforming players include most of our players lately but the names that stand out are Vazquez, Buxton, Farmer and (you fill in the blank).  Get Edward back from St. Paul is my choice of non-money moves. 

Don't trade!  Just bring up our future. Can't be worse than half the team.  Not sure the chances of winning the ALC and not sure they could win a series especially if they face NYY.  

Blackmon is their best player, he can play CF or RF with ease, and he can hit. Trade Buxton for Blackmon and I'm interested.

15 minutes ago, Coach Wheels said:

Blackmon is their best player, he can play CF or RF with ease, and he can hit. Trade Buxton for Blackmon and I'm interested.

Blackmon is hitting as bad as Buxton and is mostly a DH at this point in his career. He hasn't played CF since 2018.

1 hour ago, Otaknam said:

Click bait article. These suggestions are just band aids on a cut jugular. The Twins have again shown that they aren’t ready for prime time, are just a fringe playoff team with no number one starter and too many under performers like Correa, Buxton, Kiroloff, Vasquez. Margot, and Farmer. And Vasquez is virtually untradeable due to his $10 million contract and dismal performance. So a trade for backup catcher Diaz does little to address the bigger issues. 

I don't know if I would call this click-bait, but if TD continues to pump out these types of articles, they need to open a new article section titled "wishful thinking".

The Twins will not make any moves that will increase payroll.  Discussions of acquiring ANY player from ANY team needs to stop.  They will not trade a cheaper prospect for a more expensive veteran.  Ownership is counting by nickels, not millions.  There is no "help" to be had from outside the organization.  We just get to sit and watch half the team underperform and the SP try their best to reach a cumulative 5.00 ERA.

46 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

If we throw in a prospect or three, can we trade managers?

You really want Roger Black? 

There isn’t a real good reason to trade unless we bring in a high performing rental to jump start the offense or build long term talent upgrades.  We have that option on the farm but always be open to improving the team immediately.  Lee and Erod are prime timers like Lewis. Try those options first. The cost is ZERO $.

I really like Elias Diaz & wish we had him in our system but what do we do with Vazquez & his $10MM/ yr.? Vazquez is catching more games is because he's a much better catcher & Jeffers has 60% more ABs because he's a much better hitter, The last 2 game trend Vazquez has 1 HR, 1 double, 1 BB, 0 Ks 6ABs against RHPs Gil & Stoman. Jeffers is 0-8, 0 BB, 2 Ks, against Brown & LHP Rodon. Vazquez is a very good back-up the problem is price tag 

I really don't think the twins will be buyers this year, we're just not making the playoffs. I don't think we'll be sellers either though because aside from maybe Kepler or Miranda, maybe Larnach or AK, what do we have that other teams want that were willing to trade? If we could somehow dump Vasquez Farmer Margot or Santana for any return at all that would be a huge win, but I don't see it happening.

  Larry Walker?

1 hour ago, Doctor Gast said:

You really want Roger Black? 

I would even take Roger Rabbit

Twins should focus on internal help from Lee, Festa, Julien, Wallner, and possibly others in their MiLB system. Finally decide what they have in Kirilloff and Larnach. Doesn’t look like there is enough talent on this team to compete with NYY, Orioles, or Cleveland. 
The cost of bringing in impactful talent at the deadline would hurt down the road. If they were one pitcher or bat away from beating NYY, then go for it. But that is not the case.

That was a waste of time!

What is most interesting is that the Rockies are drawing over 6,000 more fans a game compared with the Twins.   Denver/Colorado is a great baseball town with terrible teams seemingly forever. 

3 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

Wow - that’s the problem - the Manager?

How about (2021 level) $124M payroll??

Louie Varland sucked in 4 outings due to zero 5th starter option ….. Lopez looks like a guy that’s in his own head in most outings…….6 walks last night & 0-2 count Hit Batsman - that sucks a bunch!!

That’s 5 of the 29 losses, w/o much thought, squarely on starting pitching! Joe Ryan gave up somewhere near 4 HR in a start in last couple weeks. Starters are going to blow up occasionally - understood - it’s not a Manager problem though. They have been competitive to pretty good in a whole bunch of games as well but Managers can’t pitch or stop run scoring onslaughts - guys gotta perform.

Don't disagree with much of what you said, JD.  But cannot understand your and other comments about the payroll.  Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but don't the White Sox have the largest payroll in the Central Division?  By a lot?  And don't the Guardians, Royals and Tigers all have payrolls smaller than the Twins?  But you hit it on the nail when talking about the ineffective starting pitchers.  

With Diamond sports still in bankruptcy court and Comcast no longer paying for their games there is a real chance that Bally doesn't make it thru the season.  So here we are in early June and the Twins still aren't certain what their TV revenue will be.  Expect I may be in the minority, but I sure as heck can understand why they put restrictions on spending this year.  Hopefully, come opening day 2025 MLB will finally have put together the broadcasting program they have talked about for several years.  If not, don't know whether any of us will see games next year.  Or maybe even want to see them.

The broadcasting situation MAY have a solution on the horizon. Marc Lore(36% Twolves owner) has brought in Michael Bloomberg as a “partner”? A guy that works for Bloomberg is the same guy that helped create YES (Yankees) regional broadcast system. Sounds like the plan is to create regional sports network here. Twolves & Wild are in same situation with Bally as Twins are so it makes sense they join forces to offer one package deal for all. 

Austin Gomber. Cheap and experienced. 

14 hours ago, 1985Fan said:

The broadcasting situation MAY have a solution on the horizon. Marc Lore(36% Twolves owner) has brought in Michael Bloomberg as a “partner”? A guy that works for Bloomberg is the same guy that helped create YES (Yankees) regional broadcast system. Sounds like the plan is to create regional sports network here. Twolves & Wild are in same situation with Bally as Twins are so it makes sense they join forces to offer one package deal for all. 

Thanks!  Very interesting.  However, I would think the reasons for bring in Lore are much broader than creating a TV network.  That said, a Twins only product is not a solution for many of us, so it makes sense the Timberwolves, Wild, and Lynx would work together on a product.  This would explain why they went with an interim solution.

TD could have picked any number of teams to feature for an article like this and they picked Colorado.  Honestly, there is not a single player on their roster who makes any sense for us or would be a good fit.  We need SP.  Colorado has none.  We need a backup catcher to Jeffers and while Diaz wouldn't be a BAD option, you've got to find someone willing to take Vasquez.  That ain't Colorado.  

We're all correct in thinking the guys we have now just need to play better.  If they do start playing better and we get to the end of June/early July, that would be the time to see what SP they could add with a couple of years control remaining.  And before they would consider that, I think Festa needs to replace Paddack in the rotation.  May as well see what Festa can do NOW before making a deal.  

3 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

Thanks!  Very interesting.  However, I would think the reasons for bring in Lore are much broader than creating a TV network.  That said, a Twins only product is not a solution for many of us, so it makes sense the Timberwolves, Wild, and Lynx would work together on a product.  This would explain why they went with an interim solution.

Lore is bringing in Bloomberg (former mayor of NYC and one of the richest people in US) for part of the $300M installment payment to assume 80% ownership with ARod. Once Lore and ARod take over ownership(if they win arbitration case against Glen Taylor) they want to work with Redbird capital to create a regional sports network similar to YES. Apparently Redbird helped create the Yankees regional network. All this is according to a recent article in the Athletic. I read this in Hoops Rumors post on June 6th. 
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/06/bloomberg-to-join-wolves-ownership-group-led-by-lore-a-rod.html

19 hours ago, 1985Fan said:

Lore is bringing in Bloomberg (former mayor of NYC and one of the richest people in US) for part of the $300M installment payment to assume 80% ownership with ARod. Once Lore and ARod take over ownership(if they win arbitration case against Glen Taylor) they want to work with Redbird capital to create a regional sports network similar to YES. Apparently Redbird helped create the Yankees regional network. All this is according to a recent article in the Athletic. I read this in Hoops Rumors post on June 6th. 
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/06/bloomberg-to-join-wolves-ownership-group-led-by-lore-a-rod.html

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.  I came to the conclusion a couple few months ago there was something in the works and what made the most sense was a collaboration among all the local teams.  That conclusion was not popular with the people who insisted the Twins opted for a quick buck and did not care about the future.  This sounds like a great long-term solution.