ashbury Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 minute ago, LewFordLives said: It's only been a couple months, and this is completely subjective, but I feel Shelton has a much better feel for the game than Rocco. Rocco never had the horses to work with, like Derek Shelton does. RpR, LA Vikes Fan, Danchat and 1 other 3 1
RpR Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Very good Memorial Day, I got to watch the exciting ending to two sporting events! Patzky, Peter, Mortimerkenny21 and 1 other 2 2
hitterscount Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 4 minutes ago, LewFordLives said: It's only been a couple months, and this is completely subjective, but I feel Shelton has a much better feel for the game than Rocco. It’s no contest Twins_Fan_in_NJ 1
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 I'm shocked how bad Boston is this year. Nice win! Danchat, thelanges5, MN Brian and 2 others 5
mrtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 14 minutes ago, Blyleven2011 said: Who's more of a wild thing, Gomez or Rojas??? Banda
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 7 minutes ago, hitterscount said: It’s no contest The manager who won a playoff series? With a winning percentage over .500? I really think people have forgotten how bad most managers have been for this team, winning wise.... And that's with the GM destroying the team after the break last year. Squirrel and Patzky 2
SS MagicMark Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 If the season ended today, it would be a really short season. Church of Kreidler, Mike Sixel and ashbury 1 2
Mortimerkenny21 Verified Member Posted May 24 Author Posted May 24 Awesome, a sweep! Wish I could've seen them end of the game. Happy with the results.
Jack207 Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 It is really nice just watching this team play now. They are not the most talented team in the AL but I love teams that play for one another like TB and MIL. Let's keep it going in CHI this week. Church of Kreidler 1
Patzky Old-Timey Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 46 minutes ago, SS MagicMark said: If the season ended today, it would be a really short season. Might be dress rehearsal for '27 Mortimerkenny21 1
Twins_Fan_in_NJ Verified Member Posted May 24 Posted May 24 Again late to the party....but, dare I say it, this team is exciting! Mortimerkenny21 and Patzky 2
tony&rodney Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 3 hours ago, ashbury said: Rocco never had the horses to work with, like Derek Shelton does. FWIW, I never disparaged Rocco, but you might need to give a lengthy explanation of "horses" since the current roster was picked for the worst record in recent Twins play and that was before the loss of stalwarts Lewis and Wallner. Or .... did you mean the current set of coaches? hitterscount 1
ashbury Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 1 hour ago, tony&rodney said: FWIW, I never disparaged Rocco, but you might need to give a lengthy explanation of "horses" since the current roster was picked for the worst record in recent Twins play and that was before the loss of stalwarts Lewis and Wallner. Or .... did you mean the current set of coaches? Or .... maybe I was being playful and today is Opposites Day. tony&rodney 1
Sjoski Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 5 hours ago, sampleSizeOfOne said: Double check your work... Re-read the original post.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 6 hours ago, ashbury said: Or .... maybe I was being playful and today is Opposites Day. The current roster was not even close to predicted to be the worst team. Not by any national site I saw.
hitterscount Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 15 hours ago, Mike Sixel said: The manager who won a playoff series? With a winning percentage over .500? I really think people have forgotten how bad most managers have been for this team, winning wise.... And that's with the GM destroying the team after the break last year. It’s night and day difference, plate approaches, defense (yesterday’s game saving relay), starting pitchers getting an extra inning or two… basic fundamental baseball… plus the job Shelton has done with this group of arms in the BP. Rocco did less with more….. IMO it’s noticeable that the effort and team first approach is different.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 4 hours ago, hitterscount said: It’s night and day difference, plate approaches, defense (yesterday’s game saving relay), starting pitchers getting an extra inning or two… basic fundamental baseball… plus the job Shelton has done with this group of arms in the BP. Rocco did less with more….. IMO it’s noticeable that the effort and team first approach is different. It's one of the worst defenses in the game. That's an interesting choice....
hitterscount Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 9 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: It's one of the worst defenses in the game. That's an interesting choice.... You might be the wrong poster, if so my bad…. but aren’t you the guy arguing all last year how valuable Matt Wallner was? If that is accurate I think enough has changed,… let’s see what the defense looks like with Wallner and Lewis being where they belong, can’t bat their weight and arguably two of the worst defensive players on the team, . Sorry my view of Rocco gets you so defensive, well not really it’s my view.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 23 minutes ago, hitterscount said: You might be the wrong poster, if so my bad…. but aren’t you the guy arguing all last year how valuable Matt Wallner was? If that is accurate I think enough has changed,… let’s see what the defense looks like with Wallner and Lewis being where they belong, can’t bat their weight and arguably two of the worst defensive players on the team, . Sorry my view of Rocco gets you so defensive, well not really it’s my view. Certainly removing those two should help, but they were on last year's team, so how do we judge the previous manager for that? I'm not defensive, I'm stating that imo people have short memories for how bad most winning percentage have been for this team's managers... People also have a tendency to rate managers great when teams are winning, when it's really the players. I'm happy we can disagree politely! Have a great day. hitterscount 1
hitterscount Verified Member Posted May 25 Posted May 25 15 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: Certainly removing those two should help, but they were on last year's team, so how do we judge the previous manager for that? I'm not defensive, I'm stating that imo people have short memories for how bad most winning percentage have been for this team's managers... People also have a tendency to rate managers great when teams are winning, when it's really the players. I'm happy we can disagree politely! Have a great day. I had a two word response to someone’s post on Shelton versus Rocco. The last two years of Twins baseball was miserable, canceled my MLB subscription when he was given an extension, was the teams poor play all Rocco, absolutely not. But from my point of view they were undisciplined, poor fundamentals all over the field, his handling of SP’s, pinch hitting at weird times, I could go on…. my expectations for this year were 70-74 wins…. they’re playing damn good ball and have been fun to watch again….. hence why I believe Shelton has hands down been better. Mike Sixel 1
sampleSizeOfOne Verified Member Posted May 26 Posted May 26 21 hours ago, Sjoski said: Re-read the original post. My apologies, then for not realizing the below description was meant to describe if the matrix remained unbroken rather than reality.
Sjoski Verified Member Posted May 26 Posted May 26 19 hours ago, sampleSizeOfOne said: My apologies, then for not realizing the below description was meant to describe if the matrix remained unbroken rather than reality. It was rather cryptic I admit... I saw the pattern of each team scoring and even number of run....then Gomez choked it...but hey....a sweep is sweet.
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