Austin Martin Has Solidified Himself as an Integral Member of 2026 Minnesota Twins

[JD-TWINS]

On 9/8/2025 at 10:03 AM, DJL44 said:

OAA has him at -1

-2 in CF, +1 in LF and 0 at 2B

It's all based on very small sample sizes. As a utility player he doesn't have much utility.

If the 2026 bench players are Austin Martin, Kody Clemens and Brooks Lee, that would cover the positions they need to cover but the defense would be bad at SS and CF. They could slide Jenkins over to CF when Buxton needs a break, but they don't have a good backup at SS.

Any thoughts on either the ‘24 or ‘25 First Round picks being able to play SS at some point in ‘26? Was hoping Lee may move to 2B or bench guy (back-up across the dirt) at some point unless his level of play elevates.

[JD-TWINS]

7 hours ago, Doctor Wu said:

I'm happy that Martin has been hitting better since his callup, and his OBP is very impressive. But I'm still not convinced that he has earned a starter's role or permanent place on the team. Let's see how he is doing a month from now and re-visit the question. But one that that puzzles me is seeing many people asking the Twins to trade Larnach and/or Wallner. I have no problem with that concept, but honestly how many teams will actually want to trade for either player and give us anything remotely of quality in return? 

Wallner, as much as I struggle with his plate approach, certainly deserves another year to look over ………. Larnach being considered “too expensive” is nuts ……. he may make just north of $4M in ‘26 ………. he can DH or play either corner OF spot & has a career .765 OPS v. RH pitching. He should certainly hold a spot until Rodriguez or Jenkins are 100% ready for an MLB spot. Can’t take on Roden or Outman as the only placeholders!

[Major League Ready]

18 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

Any thoughts on either the ‘24 or ‘25 First Round picks being able to play SS at some point in ‘26? Was hoping Lee may move to 2B or bench guy (back-up across the dirt) at some point unless his level of play elevates.

Culpepper is way ahead of Houston and will start the year at AAA and be up as soon as he can string 4-6 good weeks together at AAA.  Obviously, this is purely opinion, but it sure seems to be setting up this way.  The OF situation will be similar.  I guess Jenkins could be there to start the season but my guess is that Culpepper and Jenkins are in the same boat.

[Riverbrian]

19 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

I think they could fill a relief slot or 1B with a Larnach trade.

I don't know if they could or couldn't. 

I honestly can't say what approach I would take this off-season because the Twins are in an interesting situation right now with paths to choose from. 

My personal feeling at the moment.

A. If they are going to deepen this sell off in the off season which can certainly be justified.

Then DEEPEN the hell out of it. You trade your highest value players such as Joe Ryan and acquire a bigger better more awesome young 1B. 

B. If you are going to take your starting staff as something to build around... that could also be justified. Don't fill gaps by creating more gaps by moving players that are exhibiting better talent than the ones you are keeping. This means you keep Larnach and Wallner and attack the bottom end until there is less of a bottom end.   

Which direction would I take. I really don't know... both could be justified and I won't argue either approach. 

The one thing that I won't do. I won't say we are overstocked anywhere at the moment. I won't declare any positions of strength with excess. That includes left handed hitting outfielders. When you consider the group of Larnach, Wallner, Outman, Roden, Erod, Jenkins and Mendez. Granted that's a lot of names and a lot of potential but only Larnach and Wallner have performed above average at the major league level out of that group. 

We need to add to the above average pile. I'd keep them until others join them.      

[DJL44]

34 minutes ago, JD-TWINS said:

Any thoughts on either the ‘24 or ‘25 First Round picks being able to play SS at some point in ‘26? Was hoping Lee may move to 2B or bench guy (back-up across the dirt) at some point unless his level of play elevates.

I think signing Isaiah Kiner-Falefa as a stopgap SS is a good idea for 2026.

[rdehring]

4 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

Cull from the bottom and be very careful on who you declare is the at the top. In my opinion, that's how you get better quicker.

Martin, Wallner and Larnach are nowhere near our current bottom and we only have two position players who I think should be in the lineup nearly every day... those two players are Buxton and Keaschall. Even those two will need occasional rest and the present of Keaschall is still small sample and his future is still TBD. 

Everybody else can compete for playing time. Martin, Wallner and Larnach can compete for playing time with others rising through the system and let the players decide through performance who gets more playing time and eventually who stays and who goes.

Austin Martin is nowhere near arbitration, Wallner will be pre-arb with both making the minimum, they don't need to play every day unless every day playing time is earned by either of them. They do need to play enough to compete for more playing time, they need to play enough to develop, to become worthy of every day playing time. If they get by-passed by others, they get by-passed by others but the by-passing needs to happen on the field. 

Larnach is a little different than Wallner and Martin because he will cost extra money next year in his 2nd year of arbitration. 4 million? I don't know but he made 2 million this year and arb raises are typically double the previous year. 

After the deadline deals, budget isn't much of a concern now. The Twins have room for that 4 million for a player that will be potentially back for in 2027. Spending 4 million on Larnach is 100% better than spending 4 million on a one year contract that won't be back the following year.

Decision time on Larnach comes when the budget is tight, it's his 3rd year of arb with 8 to 10 million the payroll expenditure and he becomes a free agent the following year making it likely he won't be back.

If Larnach has a nice year in 2026... maybe he provides more trade value and then you can move him at the 2026 trade deadline or off-season.   

Bottom line... They don't have to move Larnach and I hope they don't and I don't care how many left handed corner outfielders the Twins have on the roster. It's about those left handed corner outfielders competing for playing time and earning it and right now... nobody is out playing Larnach out of the current available options... no matter how many Clemens, Roden, and Outmans to join the hopefully upcoming Jenkins, Erods and Hendry Mendez's of our weirdly constructed farm system. 

Trade Larnach now? I don't know what he brings back. Could we fill the massive hole at 1B or SS or even CF with corner OF trade? Maybe... but the Twins haven't done him or Wallner any favors in regards to improving their trade value with their strip mining them for parts over the past 100 years of their development.   

Right now... Larnach is on my 2026 roster and I'm counting on him to help us turn this thing around... along with Wallner and Martin. Somebody from the system has to actually out hit them first. Cull from the bottom before you move on from those not at the bottom.

In other words, Keirsay loses his 40 man spot, McCusker loses his 40 man spot first since they are not getting major league opportunity anyway. 

If for some reason, we collect enough talent in 2026 to force Larnach, Wallner or Martin off the 26 man roster because we just plum out of space and we are brimming with talent better then those 3. Good for us... we should be winning a lot of baseball games if we reach the point that we have a team full of players  who are playing better.          

 

 

 

Fantastic outline of what the Twins should be doing in 2026.  But do you really think the Twins FO and Rocco are capable of following said plan?  I'm not.

[Mike Sixel]

35 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

I think signing Isaiah Kiner-Falefa as a stopgap SS is a good idea for 2026.

Why? To what end? They aren't winning with him, just play Lee until Culpeper is ready. 

[Riverbrian]

3 minutes ago, rdehring said:

Fantastic outline of what the Twins should be doing in 2026.  But do you really think the Twins FO and Rocco are capable of following said plan?  I'm not.

In my opinion. The Front office and Rocco is how we got here. If they continue doing what they have been doing... they will fail.

If they would rather sign Ty France and play him every day because the farm can't do produce equal to or better. They will fail. They will not be capable of getting us back. 

If they would rather bring in recently DFA'd players like Bride and Clemens instead of turning to players produced out of their own farm system. They will fail... they will not be capable of getting us back. 

If they continue to rely upon players developed by other organizations instead of the fruits of their highly ranked farm system. They will fail... They will not be capable of getting us back. 

If they continue to staff the 26 man roster like the Yankees staff their 26 man roster without Yankees type money. Meaning instead of 100 million dollar free agent going with a one year 4 million guy. They will fail... They will not be capable of getting us back. 

On the other hand... If they do a 180 degree shift and work on development to the point where they trust the product coming out of their system over the players coming out of other systems. Then Yeah... They can do it. 

If they stop strip mining young players for parts in the name of development instead of trying to cobble together a patch work handcuff. 

Right now... the answer to your question... in my opinion of course... Is... No they can't. 

Yet... They can but they got to commit to it. 

[DJL44]

6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Why? To what end? They aren't winning with him, just play Lee until Culpeper is ready. 

Lee is a really bad SS who will make the stats of all the pitchers look worse. Why acquire a groundball pitcher like Bradley and then play a bad SS behind him? It's really hard on a young pitching staff if they have to get an extra couple outs every game.

An extra 20 pitches a game is an extra 120 pitches a week. Who is going to throw those 120 extra pitches? The worst relievers on the team are going to throw those extra 120 pitches.

[Mike Sixel]

12 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Lee is a really bad SS who will make the stats of all the pitchers look worse. Why acquire a groundball pitcher like Bradley and then play a bad SS behind him? It's really hard on a young pitching staff if they have to get an extra couple outs every game.

An extra 20 pitches a game is an extra 120 pitches a week. Who is going to throw those 120 extra pitches? The worst relievers on the team are going to throw those extra 120 pitches.

Then you wont see Culpeper next year, because this FO does not move on from veterans until there is an injury. I'm not interested in bad veterans all year.

[DJL44]

3 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Then you won't see Culpeper next year, because this FO does not move on from veterans until there is an injury. I'm not interested in bad veterans all year.

They had no trouble bringing Keaschall in to play 2B when Julien underperformed. I don't think they will have any trouble moving Kiner-Falefa to a utility role or onto another roster if they think Culpepper is ready.

[Mike Sixel]

3 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

They had no trouble bringing Keaschall in to play 2B when Julien underperformed. I don't think they will have any trouble moving Kiner-Falefa to a utility role or onto another roster if they think Culpepper is ready.

Julien wasn't signed as a free agent they just brought in. In any event, I'm bored with bad, old, veterans. We just disagree. We'll see in a few months.

[DJL44]

4 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Julien wasn't signed as a free agent they just brought in. In any event, I'm bored with bad, old, veterans. We just disagree. We'll see in a few months.

I'm tired of bad, old minor leaguers like Gasper, Julien, Fitzgerald, Keirsey, Outman and half the bullpen. Give me an actual major leaguer over any of them.

[Mike Sixel]

16 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

I'm tired of bad, old minor leaguers like Gasper, Julien, Fitzgerald, Keirsey, Outman and half the bullpen. Give me an actual major leaguer over any of them.

Ikf won't even put up one war this year. He can't hit. I'm not sure this is the guy you want. 

[RpR]

31 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

They had no trouble bringing Keaschall in to play 2B when Julien underperformed. I don't think they will have any trouble moving Kiner-Falefa to a utility role or onto another roster if they think Culpepper is ready.

Keaschall is not a good fielder, but 2nd base is where he is least a problem; he is up for his bat.

[DJL44]

25 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Ikf won't even put up one war this year. He can't hit. I'm not sure this is the guy you want. 

I would rather have IKF than no-hit no-field Julien. They need a SS who can field. There aren't very many stopgap options. They aren't going to pay for Ha-Seong Kim. A 1 WAR player isn't good but is still worth more than a -1 WAR player like Julien or Fitzgerald.

[thelanges5]

Outman looks cooked at the plate and in the field. Martin could be the 4th OF. He’s been better but needs to continue to work on routes and heads up base-running. Color me interested. 

[Riverbrian]

16 hours ago, DJL44 said:

I think signing Isaiah Kiner-Falefa as a stopgap SS is a good idea for 2026.

With all of the complaining that I've done.

I have never asked for the firing of Falvey or Baldelli. 

I've reached the point of expressing a lack of confidence lately but I've never typed the words Falvey or Baldelli must go. 

If they sign IFK... that'll get me to type those words. 

[NYCTK]

16 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Then you wont see Culpeper next year, because this FO does not move on from veterans until there is an injury. I'm not interested in bad veterans all year.

Yesterday I called comments like this stupid and uninformed, and this remains true. 

Name a single young, deserving Twins player that hasn't received sufficient playing time thanks to the presence of a veteran. Instead of just repeating stupid talking points thrown around constantly here, try actually supporting your comments. 

[NYCTK]

1 hour ago, Riverbrian said:

If they sign IFK

Signing IFK would be quite similar to signing Bader. An obviously good move **** on by know nothing fans. 

That THIS would be your breaking point is pretty telling. 

Fire Falvey. Fire Rocco. But not because of good things. 

[NYCTK]

16 hours ago, Mike Sixel said:

Julien wasn't signed as a free agent they just brought in. In any event, I'm bored with bad, old, veterans. We just disagree. We'll see in a few months.

Guys like Bader? 

[DJL44]

2 hours ago, Riverbrian said:

With all of the complaining that I've done.

I have never asked for the firing of Falvey or Baldelli. 

I've reached the point of expressing a lack of confidence lately but I've never typed the words Falvey or Baldelli must go. 

If they sign IFK... that'll get me to type those words. 

Would you rather go without a shortstop? They don't have an MLB caliber shortstop on the current roster.

[Riverbrian]

44 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Would you rather go without a shortstop? They don't have an MLB caliber shortstop on the current roster.

Someone will play SS. 

Someone will play 1B. 

Someone will play C. 

If you are looking for the greatest defensive team in the world. You could scrape that together on the waiver wire but you got to hit the ball in this game as well.  

Please understand that I'm not going to get into any debates over Brooks Lee and I'm not going to let opinions on Brooks Lee get in the way of the most important point.  

I understand that there are some who feel that Brooks Lee is not worthy of further investment at age 24. That conversation doesn't interest me. My opinion on Brooks Lee isn't worth anything and yours isn't either. None of us have the ability to predict what Brooks Lee will be at age 26.  

It's really simple... We have a budget. Any thought that they are going to keep raising payroll is not going to happen.

Development is everything. We can't sustain our team with a series of one year contracts. Not producing a significant number of pre-arb talent leads to the wall we just hit. We need to be cranking out enough major league talent that makes the minimum like Milwaukee, like Cleveland, like Tampa so we have the money to spend on extensions or better free agents. We could be like them with 40 million extra dollars to spend and we won't get there with IKF followed by IFK doppelganger followed by IKF doppelganger. 

The next argument is... Well... who do the Twins have in the system right now. I don't know... Don't care... If they don't have someone who can field the SS position and produce a 77 OPS+. The front office needs to go. I'm not asking for Bobby Witt Jr. I'm asking for someone who will be back next year and could get better incrementally so the farm production is incremental as well which will eliminate the need to do it all at once like we just did at the trade deadline. 

 

[DJL44]

5 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

If they don't have someone who can field the SS position and produce a 77 OPS+. The front office needs to go. 

I think they will - in the second half of 2026 - when Culpepper is ready to debut. Until then I would like to see them put someone at SS who can field so Taj Bradley can have an ERA below 7.

7 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

If you are looking for the greatest defensive team in the world. You could scrape that together on the waiver wire

If this was true, then the Twins would have a really good defensive team right now. Their current team is lousy on defense and lousy on offense.

[NYCTK]

52 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

The next argument is... Well... who do the Twins have in the system right now. I don't know... Don't care...

Why do you constantly engage in conversations you are unwilling to actually have? 

This is a pretty big thing not to care about if you're going to rally against signing ANY veterans. Instead you sit on this site and just complain about something we literally all agree on, yes the Twins have been pretty bad at developing Major League talent. 

[Riverbrian]

58 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

I think they will - in the second half of 2026 - when Culpepper is ready to debut. Until then I would like to see them put someone at SS who can field so Taj Bradley can have an ERA below 7.

If this was true, then the Twins would have a really good defensive team right now. Their current team is lousy on defense and lousy on offense.

I haven't learned how to separate quotes easily so I'll just do it this way. 

First Statement: That's subjective player opinion and I won't go there because it leads to missing the point.  There is no guarantee on Culpepper either. So tossing Brooks aside just to bide additional time with IFK waiting for Culpepper to hopefully be the man in the 2nd half only solves things on paper. In order for me to support this plan. I'd have to believe that you got this down pat and if you have it down pat... I'll will nominate you to be our GM next year. Currently... I don't believe the front offices of all 30 teams have the ability to nail these types of future calls because they miss frequently. Do I support Culpepper over IKF... Yes I do. Sight unseen... I support Culpepper over IKF because Culpepper will be back the following year and the year after that and the year after that. Call him up... let him break camp with the club if you feel this strongly about him. Let him grow through his pains. One state over in Milwaukee, the Brewers identified Brice Turang, they endured 1,000 AB's from him in 2023 at 23 and 2024 at age 24 of 61 and 86 OPS+ and are enjoying a 122 OPS+ in 2025 at age 25. BTW... they won 92 games in 2023 and 93 games in 2024 with a 61 and 86 OPS+ dragging them down. Not to mention Sal Frelick who is the same age in 2023. And many others. Chourio at age 20... leading to 17 Pre-Arb players in Milwaukee. For me... this isn't about 1 specific player in regards to Lee or Culpepper. 1 player doesn't fix our development issues. It's about multiple players rising up from the farm.   

Culpepper will be 23 next year. Call him up instead of signing IKF.  

2nd statement. We can cheaply Myles Straw our way into a defensive 2026 roster to support our pitching. We could probably bring Vazquez back for a pretty low dollar figure on a one year deal. We could fill the roster with defensive talent and do it cheaply.  

I don't disagree that the defense and offense needs improvement which goes back to the crux of my opinion and attitude. What's the problem? Why are the Twins in the position? That's what needs to be solved. That's why I'm struggling to support this front office. Paving over this problem with one year contracts just keeps the problem going. It has to stop. IKF keeps the problem rolling. Enough with the temporary fixes. 

Why are the Twins lacking in position player development... Why are they behind nearly everyone? I don't know but it has to be fixed.  

[jorgenswest]

Just some data. 

Brooks Lee is a -4 OAA in 468.1 innings or -1 for every 117 innings.

Isaiah Kiner-Falefa didn’t play SS at 24. He played 3B. At 25 he had a -1 OAA in 121 innings at SS. At 26 he was a regular SS and had an OAA of -6 in 1360 innings. He then grew into an average fielding shortstop for a while. Now 30 he has an OAA of -3 in 815 innings or -1 in every 272 innings.

 

 

[DJL44]

8 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

I haven't learned how to separate quotes easily so I'll just do it this way. 

First Statement: That's subjective player opinion and I won't go there because it leads to missing the point.  There is no guarantee on Culpepper either. So tossing Brooks aside just to bide additional time with IFK waiting for Culpepper to hopefully be the man in the 2nd half only solves things on paper. In order for me to support this plan. I'd have to believe that you got this down pat and if you have it down pat... I'll will nominate you to be our GM next year. Currently... I don't believe the front offices of all 30 teams have the ability to nail these types of future calls because they miss frequently. Do I support Culpepper over IKF... Yes I do. Sight unseen... I support Culpepper over IKF because Culpepper will be back the following year and the year after that and the year after that. Call him up... let him break camp with the club if you feel this strongly about him. Let him grow through his pains. One state over in Milwaukee, the Brewers identified Brice Turang, they endured 1,000 AB's from him in 2023 at 23 and 2024 at age 24 of 61 and 86 OPS+ and are enjoying a 122 OPS+ in 2025 at age 25. BTW... they won 92 games in 2023 and 93 games in 2024 with a 61 and 86 OPS+ dragging them down. Not to mention Sal Frelick who is the same age in 2023. And many others. Chourio at age 20... leading to 17 Pre-Arb players in Milwaukee. For me... this isn't about 1 specific player in regards to Lee or Culpepper. 1 player doesn't fix our development issues. It's about multiple players rising up from the farm.   

Culpepper will be 23 next year. Call him up instead of signing IKF.  

2nd statement. We can cheaply Myles Straw our way into a defensive 2026 roster to support our pitching. We could probably bring Vazquez back for a pretty low dollar figure on a one year deal. We could fill the roster with defensive talent and do it cheaply.  

I don't disagree that the defense and offense needs improvement which goes back to the crux of my opinion and attitude. What's the problem? Why are the Twins in the position? That's what needs to be solved. That's why I'm struggling to support this front office. Paving over this problem with one year contracts just keeps the problem going. It has to stop. IKF keeps the problem rolling. Enough with the temporary fixes. 

Why are the Twins lacking in position player development... Why are they behind nearly everyone? I don't know but it has to be fixed.  

The problem with using prospects before they're ready is you throw away the seasons when they're actually good. If Culpepper was ready to play for the Twins next season, he probably wouldn't be in Double-A right now. If they bring him up and he sucks they throw away a season of team control when he is 29 and might actually be good. Which year of Culpepper's career do you want - age 23 where he's overmatched and struggling or age 29 when he might be an above-average starter?

Adding IK-F is exactly "filling the roster with defensive talent cheaply". I'm surprised you aren't equally upset that they would block Tait with Vazquez. I could make the same argument. in reverse Why sign Vazquez when they can go with top prospect Tait and let him develop at the MLB level? Tait is only one level behind Culpepper in the minors.

[jorgenswest]

13 minutes ago, Riverbrian said:

Enough with the temporary fixes. 

Concur. I really believe this is critical for position players. 

I have been diving into the 2016 Twins and 2017 Twins. The 2016 Twins won 59 games. The 2017 Twins won 85 games. How did that happen?

One thing I noticed is the Twins had the second youngest batter age in the AL at 26.9. The Astros were the youngest at 26.4. The Astros improved by 17 games in 2017 and won the World Series. The Rays were 3rd by average batter age in the AL. They went from 68 to 80 to 90. Over in the NL the DBacks were 26.4. They went from 69 wins to 94 wins. I should add the Phillies also. They were 26.9. They did not improve the next year.

This is not a deep dive. Mauer’s PAs skew that 26.9 number up. The Phillies didn’t have any starter that was 30. The season to season improvement of Buxton, Sanó, Rosario, Polanco and Escobar were a big contribution to the success. They did sign one free agent in Castro. He was a very nice upgrade over Suzuki.

As for Martin and the others under 27. I would prefer the Twins bet on the improvement of their own players as opposed to trying to squeeze one more year out of a player in the decline phase of their career. I would bet on Martin rather than spend the 10-20 million it might take to get Bader back for one year. The pay off of finding a pre-arb player that contributes to wins is worth the gamble.

[Riverbrian]

14 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

The problem with using prospects before they're ready is you throw away the seasons when they're actually good. If Culpepper was ready to play for the Twins next season, he probably wouldn't be in Double-A right now. If they bring him up and he sucks they throw away a season of team control when he is 29 and might actually be good. Which year of Culpepper's career do you want - age 23 where he's overmatched and struggling or age 29 when he might be an above-average starter?

Adding IK-F is exactly "filling the roster with defensive talent cheaply". I'm surprised you aren't equally upset that they would block Tait with Vazquez. I could make the same argument. in reverse Why sign Vazquez when they can go with top prospect Tait and let him develop at the MLB level? Tait is only one level behind Culpepper in the minors.

Believe me... please believe me... I Fully understand the CBA limitations. I understand each timeline every step along the way. I understand how long an organization has with a high school draft pick and how long an organization has with a college draft pick before they must roster them on the 40 man roster. I understand that a 16 year old IFA worth his salt must be placed on the 40 man roster at a much much earlier age which probably causes a lot of crash and burn and also causes the talented IFA's to typically be the ones who reach free agency at a young age and end up with the monster 10 year contracts. I understand options and I understand Arb 1, Arb 2, Arb 3 and free agency. Culpepper came out of college so we can theoretically keep him off a 40 man roster until he's 25 years old. Then they will have 3 option years. Then they will have 6 years of service time. In theory,,, if the Twins choose to do so... they can keep Culpepper from reaching free agency until he is 34 years old. And of course if the Twins attempt to maximize the on the farm seasoning of Culpepper. He will be 28 years old when he runs out of options and we have plenty on Twinsdaily that will be saying he is too old at this point and not worth the time. 

Let me be clear... They won't do that... I'm just illustrating this to show that I understand the process as outlined in the CBA.

However, the most important point is this. I'm not offering a strong opinion on Culpepper. I'm only talking about Culpepper because you brought him up. You like Culpepper eventually... you don't like Lee. Got it. OK... hope your right. I don't have an opinion... other than I'll take anyone who will be back the following year over the parade of one year guys who are filling the holes they couldn't fill internally. 

Tait? Same thing. I'm not asking for TAIT TO BE UP TOMORROW! I'm not going to get passionate about specific players no matter how hard you try to make me.

I'm asking where is our catcher produced from our system. 3 Years of Vazquez and nobody can do what he did? I'm upset that nobody from our farm could be developed to the point that they can match his defense and also not hit for 9 million dollars less per year.