Twins (Ryan) vs Blue Jays (Scherzer): 8/25/25, 6:07pm

[Doc Lenz]

Just now, Parfigliano said:

Other teams don't bring in infield with 1 out guys on 2nd and 3rd do they

N the first inning- no way it is ridiculous. He should be fired tonight. Manager malpractice!

[Dave Borton]

6 hours ago, Dave Borton said:

Best odds out of Vegas seem to disagree:
Twins: +115
Jays:  -137

Ryan will hold his own but the pen will cave.

Ah, whoops.

[USAFChief]

1 minute ago, Dave Borton said:

Ah, whoops.

You can still be half right. The "pen" will collapse.

[Aggies7]

Well, I see I haven’t missed anything 

[Vanimal46]

The inevitable 2nd half decline is happening for Joe 

[hitterscount]

I just can’t take listening to how great these offenses we are facing are, whether it’s the A’s, White Sox, Jays… they are all great…. Should be able to easily get a lineup put together, seems everyone else has.

[IndyTwinsFan]

I see no way we score at least 4 times this game, which means yet another loss.

[Blyleven2011]

I wonder if rocco or front office ever sat down with Ryan after the deadline trades and talked to him about a lost season but he Ryan still had lots to play for , Like a Cy young award  ....

He definitely hasn't been Joe Ryan since the deadline  .....

[Patzky]

Decreasing trade value 📉 

Increasing odds of staying 📈 

[Patzky]

Just now, Blyleven2011 said:

I wonder if rocco or front office ever sat down with Ryan after the deadline trades and talked to him about a lost season but he Ryan still had lots to play for , Like a Cy young award  ....

He definitely hasn't been Joe Ryan since the deadline  .....

The Yankees game was his swansong

[Blyleven2011]

Just now, IndyTwinsFan said:

I see no way we score at least 4 times this game, which means yet another loss.

Solo homeruns aren't going to be enough ....

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, hitterscount said:

I just can’t take listening to how great these offense we are facing are, whether it’s the A’s, White Sox, Jays… they are all great…. Should be able to easily get a lineup put together, seems everyone else has.

We should hire the blue jays hitting coach 

[Vanimal46]

Just now, Patzky said:

Decreasing trade value 📉 

Increasing odds of staying 📈 

He is the complete opposite of Brian Dozier. Dozier was ice cold until June then he would go on a tear for 3 months. 

[Parfigliano]

1 minute ago, hitterscount said:

I just can’t take listening to how great these offense we are facing are, whether it’s the A’s, White Sox, Jays… they are all great…. Should be able to easily get a lineup put together, seems everyone else has.

I wonder if TC "hitters" could manhandle TC pitchers like other teams do

[USAFChief]

4 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

The inevitable 2nd half decline is happening for Joe 

I don't think Joe Ryan is a 2-something ERA pitcher. Regression happens.

[bunsen82]

3 minutes ago, Blyleven2011 said:

I wonder if rocco or front office ever sat down with Ryan after the deadline trades and talked to him about a lost season but he Ryan still had lots to play for , Like a Cy young award  ....

He definitely hasn't been Joe Ryan since the deadline  .....

He had 2-3 great outings after the deadline. Seems you are having a recency bias.

[mnfireman]

Just now, USAFChief said:

I don't think Joe Ryan is a 2-something ERA pitcher. Regression happens.

After that 1st inning it's at 3.19...

[hitterscount]

3 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

We should hire the blue jays hitting coach 

No doubt… and their scouting department while we are at it.

[Vanimal46]

Just now, USAFChief said:

I don't think Joe Ryan is a 2-something ERA pitcher. Regression happens.

Agreed. We will find out if he ends up in the low or high 3s. Things aren’t trending well for him lately 

[USAFChief]

It'd be easy to be impressed with Scherzer tonight--and honestly he's been pinpoint with location--but then you gotta remember Random Waiver Wire Dude shut down the Twins yesterday in Chicago. 

[Patzky]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

Agreed. We will find out if he ends up in the low or high 3s. Things aren’t trending well for him lately 

I'm starting to think that TBA guy wasn't half bad.

[Aggies7]

Has Joe checked out?

[Parfigliano]

Jimenez hammered that Ryan FB like he knew it was coming

[Patzky]

6 minutes ago, Parfigliano said:

I wonder if TC "hitters" could manhandle TC pitchers like other teams do

The unprovable enigma. My guess is the hitting is so piecemeal that any pitcher beside Chris Paddack would have an ERA under 3.

[tony&rodney]

11 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

The inevitable 2nd half decline is happening for Joe 

Defense is an idea that is rejected by the Twins, which makes evaluating the pitchers nearly impossible.

When I watch Ryan I see a dejected guy. We can't know what is going on within the clubhouse. The team looks uninterested.

[Patzky]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

Has Joe checked out?

Won't help him long run. 

Bet a phantom IL trip is forthcoming. 

 

[mnfireman]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

Has Joe checked out?

He shouldn't be, he's only on round 2 of arbitration this winter...

[hitterscount]

1 minute ago, Vanimal46 said:

Agreed. We will find out if he ends up in the low or high 3s. Things aren’t trending well for him lately 

The entire team isn’t trending in the right direction. I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to get fired up to play for this current team. Falvey and Rocco have to go…. There needs to be a fresh start next season. Hopefully Toronto feels sorry for us and let’s off by the 5th inning.

[Aggies7]

3 minutes ago, tony&rodney said:

Defense is an idea that is rejected by the Twins, which makes evaluating the pitchers nearly impossible.

When I watch Ryan I see a dejected guy. We can'y know what is going on within the clubhouse. The team looks uninterested.

Playing out the string, which is crazy considering how few of them are certain to return next season. An interim manager would probably have helped a bit in the enthusiasm department at least. A fresh voice in the clubhouse is badly needed 

[USAFChief]

4 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

Has Joe checked out?

Well to be fair, most of us have.

'Cept for those actively cheering for losses.