Stewart, Romero Up... Cave, Duffey Down

[wsnydes]

 

I think it's usually when lumping together the positionally-inflexible players for purposes of roster discussion.

Wouldn't slotting a positionally-inflexible player to a position he's never played before make him more positionally-flexible?!

 

Where's Riverbrian when we need him?

 

Not arguing or giving you crap, I just find it amusing!

[wsnydes]

 

Sure, but it's still probably longer than Magill could give us tonight.

And the odds of him being able to go longer if needed are higher with Romero as well.

[PharmerJack]

 

Cruz can play the outfield too. He's never played 1B, so I'm not sure why people keep slotting him there.

Guess I just assume he's a good enough athlete to passable man 1st... Maybe he just looks like a 1st baseman to me, thanks for the correction.

[yarnivek1972]

Sure, but it's still probably longer than Magill could give us tonight.

Why? He threw 26 pitches two days ago. He could just as likely go 30 today. And probably will in AAA.

[yarnivek1972]

And the odds of him being able to go longer if needed are higher with Romero as well.

Not if Romero can’t get anybody out.

[pbrezeasap]

 

If Magill just threw 2 innings on Monday night, they probably don't want to count on him for long relief on Wednesday night. Particularly just coming off the DL.

 

I suspect Romero might go back down tomorrow to activate Magill. (Or Harper could be optioned instead.)

 

I would expect Stewart is the one to go down after his start and Magill come up.

[MMMordabito]

This all sounds like Astudillo is going to be pitching tonight. 

[wsnydes]

 

Guess I just assume he's a good enough athlete to passable man 1st... Maybe he just looks like a 1st baseman to me, thanks for the correction.

I'm with you there. He does look like a 1B. 

 

He wouldn't be my first choice to put in the outfield either though, so there is that.

[wsnydes]

 

Not if Romero can’t get anybody out.

I didn't say that he would, I simply said that the odds were higher. Magill is going to be handled carefully since he's coming off of injury, Romero isn't. So if you asked me which player is more likely to go 3 or 4 innings the logical answer is Romero. I'd be surprised if Magill goes more than one. That's all I'm saying.

[MileHighTwinsFan]

Guessing Stewart is just a spot start and he gets sent back down.  Magill could replace him on the roster after tonight.

 

[Mike Sixel]

Guessing Stewart is just a spot start and he gets sent back down. Magill could replace him on the roster after tonight.

This too.

[Channing1964]

2015 seems like a lifetime ago...

I still believe in him....back when we needed him to start he put together quite a few quality ones. Since then he's looked confused. The reason he's still around is because the FO must like what they see when he follows their advice.

[Channing1964]

Hopefully Duffey can settle down a bit in AAA. Cave was an obvious pick, absolutely no need for him this early in the season. I'm sure Astudillo can play competent RF if need be, or shuffle Cron to 3rd and slot Marvin in right with Astudillo or Cruz at 1st. Plenty of options to field a decent lineup while also carrying 13 arms.

Im not sure Cruz has Ever played first in his career......just saying. Garver or Kepler for sure can though.

[yarnivek1972]

I didn't say that he would, I simply said that the odds were higher. Magill is going to be handled carefully since he's coming off of injury, Romero isn't. So if you asked me which player is more likely to go 3 or 4 innings the logical answer is Romero. I'd be surprised if Magill goes more than one. That's all I'm saying.

 

In just 4 games with the Red Wings Magill has already pitched on consecutive days and had a 26 pitch outing. I’m sure he did some work before officially reporting too. MY point is that he seems plenty ready. Romero has pitched poorly at the MLB level and not that well in AAA. Granted, those numbers are skewed by the “wind game”. But he’s hit 4 batters in 4 minor league games. Clearly control is just not there.

[Channing1964]

Cave also did himself no favors, when he got 3 consecutive starts in place of an ailing Kepler and didn't hit well. Small sample size, of course, but then so are the postseason series - I want guys who step up to get rewarded, and Cave just didn't this time. We'll see him again in the majors.

True that, he's just odd man out and a loser in the option game.

[Channing1964]

This all sounds like Astudillo is going to be pitching tonight.

 

LMMFAO!!!!

[wsnydes]

 

In just 4 games with the Red Wings Magill has already pitched on consecutive days and had a 26 pitch outing. I’m sure he did some work before officially reporting too. MY point is that he seems plenty ready. Romero has pitched poorly at the MLB level and not that well in AAA. Granted, those numbers are skewed by the “wind game”. But he’s hit 4 batters in 4 minor league games. Clearly control is just not there.

I don't disagree that Magill is ready. I'd be more surprised if he wasn't. I just expect the team to handle him more carefully and not push him too far at first. 26 pitches won't get him through 2 innings in all likelihood. Those restrictions won't be on Romero, assuming that he's able to get people out obviously. I do think the team is protecting itself from a short start by Stewart and they feel that Romero is a better insurance policy than Magill at this point. 

[Brandon]

 

He was on a for like a month in 2015. Not before, not after. 

 

Duffey was also on for most of 2017.  His ERA was in the 2s going into august if I remember correctly and he did have decent peripherals.  

[Brandon]

 

Why? He threw 26 pitches two days ago. He could just as likely go 30 today. And probably will in AAA.

 

I agree with this but we can keep McGill on a 20 day rehab assignment why not take advantage of that and use most if not all of that time since he didn't get much of a spring training?

[nicksaviking]

 

Problem with Romero is that 30-40 pitches from him might be less than 2 innings.

 

Magill averaged 17.9 pitches per inning last year, so 30-40 pitches maybe doesn't get him through 2 innings either.

 

For what it's worth, Romero averaged 17.4 pitches per inning last year and Stewart averaged 17.3.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Why? He threw 26 pitches two days ago. He could just as likely go 30 today. And probably will in AAA.

Those 26 pitches represent Magill's longest outing of the year so far, he's had only 1 day rest since then, and he's only about a week removed from a month-long absence as well. I'm guessing they don't want him to top 26 pitches in his MLB season debut tonight, and asking him for 40 pitches tonight would probably be out of the question.

 

I didn't think it would be a controversial take to suggest that Romero is a fresher / more stretched-out option for length tonight. Yes, there's a chance he might not be very efficient or effective vs the Astros lineup, but I doubt Magill would be either, under the present circumstances.

[PharmerJack]

 

Im not sure Cruz has Ever played first in his career......just saying. Garver or Kepler for sure can though.

Yeah I think you're right, he just looks like a 1st baseman to me for some reason... Thanks for the correction.

[rdehring]

Unless Stewart throws 6 innings of shutout ball, expect him to be on his way to Rochester Thursday morning.  Assume he was told as much when informed he was coming up.  Expect they will activate Magill from his rehab assignment to replace Stewart.

 

Believe Cave stays down until they have a greater need for a 4th outfielder.  The next decision will be needed when Sano comes off the IL.  Expect they would prefer cutting back to 12 pitchers at that time, but lots can/will happen in the next three to four weeks.

[scottz]

 

Duffey was also on for most of 2017.  His ERA was in the 2s going into august if I remember correctly and he did have decent peripherals.  

Throughout his career - aside from 2015 where he was good for pretty much the entire duration of 3-ish months when called up - Duffey has always run hot or ice cold. As a reliever, he'll go 4-5 outings and be very good, and then have back to back outings of giving up 3-4 runs. With only reliever innings, this makes the ERA number go outrageous.

 

I know you can't just throw out the blow ups, but to ignore that he also runs very good at least with somewhat regularity seems not right. I think there is still something there, which I will concede is probably something that can be said for many AAAA pitchers. But I hope he figures it out, makes the good runs longer, the bad spells shorter, and contributes when called on for at least the rest of this year.

[TheLeviathan]

Not really sure Cave has much of a spot on this roster even going forward.  The team simply has plenty of guys that can play a similar level of OF as him.

 

If he was right-handed?  Alright, now we can talk, but he doesn't so he's super redundant.  

[Mr. Brooks]

Duffey was also on for most of 2017. His ERA was in the 2s going into august if I remember correctly and he did have decent peripherals.

I think you remember incorrectly.

 

Here are his ERA by month for 2017:

March/April: 1.59

May: 5.02

June: 4.05

July: 7.36

August: 4.66

Sept/Oct: 7.15

[h2oface]

 

Magill has been almost perfect in his 4 rehab appearances, including a 2 inning outing on the 22nd. Don’t know why they wouldn’t just activate him.

 

Like Duffey...... AAA ball is not the same as the show. Plus, Romero is the future and can work with Wes.

[twinssporto]

I hope Duffey never comes back through here.  Trade him please.  Enough of the experimenting.  

[h2oface]

Cut Cave because we need reduncy of Adrianza, Gonzalez, and Astudillo. Two of them don't hit, and Adriazna is just pathetic now, not even hitting .150! It is pretty hard to be hitting worse than Gonzalez right now (.177). Hell, even Chris Davis is up to .155 now.

[stringer bell]

Adrianza is out of options and is a decent utility infielder who has played a bit of left field, as well. Astudillo is the other choice for demotion. He's more versatile than Cave and is a better hitter. 

 

I expect the Twins to go back to 12 pitchers when Sano is ready. A lot can happen in the weeks before Miggy is ready. Injuries could change the whole scene by then.