Draft picks signed

[goulik]

 

 

 

Brent Rooker agrees to terms

 

http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/15/twins-agree-to-terms-with-mississippi-state-slugger-brent-rooker/

[AZTwin]

They went overslot with rooker? Why?

[diehardtwinsfan]

there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, and Rooker may have had someone offering more. 

[clutterheart]

Is there some kind of signing tracker on this site?

[Squirrel]

 

Is there some kind of signing tracker on this site?

In past someone has put up a list and updated it ... I guess we all can use this thread and post when we hear things.

[Minnesotatwins005]

Where do you guys think Rooker will start? I would think more then likely it would be Elizabethton but I could see a aggressive move to Cedar Rapids since he's a little bit older. Maybe I'm just saying that so I can watch him when the Kernels come to town to play the River Bandits.

[amjgt]

 

Brent Rooker agrees to terms

http://www.twincities.com/2017/06/15/twins-agree-to-terms-with-mississippi-state-slugger-brent-rooker/

 

That guy is amazing!!!!

 

He catches the ball with his eyes closed!

[amjgt]

 

Where do you guys think Rooker will start? I would think more then likely it would be Elizabethton but I could see a aggressive move to Cedar Rapids since he's a little bit older. Maybe I'm just saying that so I can watch him when the Kernels come to town to play the River Bandits.

 

Miracle

[Squirrel]

 

Where do you guys think Rooker will start? I would think more then likely it would be Elizabethton but I could see a aggressive move to Cedar Rapids since he's a little bit older. Maybe I'm just saying that so I can watch him when the Kernels come to town to play the River Bandits.

I think he'll start higher than that, maybe? I wouldn't be surprised if he starts in CR, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he starts in FM, too. I'm hoping the latter.

[Yoke]

My guess would be he starts in CR, but maybe gets bumped up to FM if he is doing well.

[Minnesotatwins005]

Ideally I would like to see him Fort Myers but the selfish me would like to see him in Cedar Rapids so I can go see him play. I miss the days when Quad Cities was a Twins affiliate so I could see Morneau, Cuddyer, Mauer, and Span all play and not have to drive out of town to see them.

[tarheeltwinsfan]

Some posters on TD would have him start in LF for the Twins. Just saying.

[amjgt]

 

Some posters on TD would have him start in LF for the Twins. Just saying.

 

I think you have us confused with RubeChat (RIP)

[gil4]

 

there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, and Rooker may have had someone offering more. 

Who could it possibly be? None of the other MLB teams can offer him anything. Korea and Japan won't want him because he's not ready - the source of his value is his potential plus years of team control, and they won't have the latter. He was a senior and can't go back to college. An indy league can't afford him.  
 

Edit: I guess the Twins had to negotiate in order to be able to re-draft him, but giving more than slot to a guy who had no such leverage with the teams just above or below them looks like bad negotiating.

 

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Who could it possibly be? None of the other MLB teams can offer him anything. Korea and Japan won't want him because he's not ready - the source of his value is his potential plus years of team control, and they won't have the latter. He was a senior and can't go back to college. An indy league can't afford him.  
 

Edit: I guess the Twins had to negotiate in order to be able to re-draft him, but giving more than slot to a guy who had no such leverage with the teams just above or below them looks like bad negotiating.

 

 

He was not a senior for one, so he did not have zero leverage.  He no doubt was talking to teams and had a decent idea of what he would get. Given how fast this was signed, those parameters were likely in place before the draft.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Where do you guys think Rooker will start? I would think more then likely it would be Elizabethton but I could see a aggressive move to Cedar Rapids since he's a little bit older. Maybe I'm just saying that so I can watch him when the Kernels come to town to play the River Bandits.

 

He was the most polished college bat.  He might get a brief wood bat tune up in rookie ball, but I have to think they will start at CR at a minimum with Fort Myers most likely.  He could be ready for the majors as early as next year, most likely 2019.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

He was not a senior for one, so he did not have zero leverage.  He no doubt was talking to teams and had a decent idea of what he would get. Given how fast this was signed, those parameters were likely in place before the draft.

True, Rooker was not a senior, but if he declined to sign this year, he would have to be a senior draftee next June.  It would be difficult for his performance over the next year to improve enough to offset that.  So not zero leverage right now, but not a whole lot either.

 

Rooker was ranked 45th by BA, and 50th by MLB.  I guess he was 29th by Minor League Ball.  Slot at 35 seemed more than fair.  I wonder if the Twins realize they will have a bit of money left over, so they can add a nominal bump for a guy they're familiar with...

[Mike Sixel]

It's hard to believe they had to pay overslot for a 22 yo. Let's hope he's fast to the majors.

[twinsfanstreif]

They went overslot with rooker? Why?

Where are you seeing that? I don't see it mentioned in the posted article

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Where are you seeing that? I don't see it mentioned in the posted article

Second paragraph:

 

 

Rooker, the Southeastern Conference player of the year as a redshirt junior at Mississippi State, figures to receive slightly more than the slot figure of $1.935 million as the 35th overall pick in this week’s draft.

 

[Steve Lein]

 

Where do you guys think Rooker will start? I would think more then likely it would be Elizabethton but I could see a aggressive move to Cedar Rapids since he's a little bit older. Maybe I'm just saying that so I can watch him when the Kernels come to town to play the River Bandits.

 

I'd want him to go to Fort Myers but am guessing it will be Cedar Rapids. This type of thing is something we don't quite know yet about Falvey and Levine, though.

[AZTwin]

If he has signed, how fast can we expect him to be assisgned to a team. Any chance he's playing by Monday?

[maxisagod]

 

True, Rooker was not a senior, but if he declined to sign this year, he would have to be a senior draftee next June.  It would be difficult for his performance over the next year to improve enough to offset that.  So not zero leverage right now, but not a whole lot either.

 

Rooker was ranked 45th by BA, and 50th by MLB.  I guess he was 29th by Minor League Ball.  Slot at 35 seemed more than fair.  I wonder if the Twins realize they will have a bit of money left over, so they can add a nominal bump for a guy they're familiar with...

Indy ball is always an option too. Bottom line is your building a relationship with a player for 1 -20 years. You draft him and say "you'll take slot or less than slot or don't sign", you treating the player and the agent with disregard and little respect. Even if his agent caves and says "this is the best your going to get lets sign and move on" your playing a lot of hard ball early on in a long relationship with someone who earned his bonus with an almost historic year.  Plus yeah, it will get around, and no one will sign the redraft paper with the Twins, especially the ones connected to that agent.

[Thrylos]

He should start in Miracle

[mlhouse]

 

there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes, and Rooker may have had someone offering more. 

 

 

WHo could offer more?   The rodeo circuit?  High fashion modeling?

 

I get that he was a redshirt junior,  but one reason why a player with his production slid to #35 in the first place was that he was already 22 years old.  If he doesn't sign with the Twins, returns for his senior year, and then he repeats his 2017 production he probably goes lower than #35 and has even less leverage.  And that is taking the risk he doesn't get injured and/or cannot duplicate that tremendous production.

 

Not a big deal.  I thought he would sign for a bit under slot rather than a bit over slot.

 

HAS there been any rumours about what Leach is looking for and when he will sign?

 

 

[rdehring]

Who could it possibly be? None of the other MLB teams can offer him anything. Korea and Japan won't want him because he's not ready - the source of his value is his potential plus years of team control, and they won't have the latter. He was a senior and can't go back to college. An indy league can't afford him.  

 

Edit: I guess the Twins had to negotiate in order to be able to re-draft him, but giving more than slot to a guy who had no such leverage with the teams just above or below them looks like bad negotiating.

I believe Rooker was a redshirt, thus, he could go back for another year. Although that would probably hurt him as next year he would have zero leverage.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Indy ball is always an option too. Bottom line is your building a relationship with a player for 1 -20 years. You draft him and say "you'll take slot or less than slot or don't sign", you treating the player and the agent with disregard and little respect. Even if his agent caves and says "this is the best your going to get lets sign and move on" your playing a lot of hard ball early on in a long relationship with someone who earned his bonus with an almost historic year.  Plus yeah, it will get around, and no one will sign the redraft paper with the Twins, especially the ones connected to that agent.

 

So much this.... slightly overslot doesn't do anything.  neither I might add does slightly under slot.  It won't hamper or improve our ability to sign the rest of the class, and if anything it doesn't burn bridges in a relationship that will last for at least 10 years if he makes the majors... 

 

Sorry, but I don't get the quibble here.  I have zero doubt that numbers were exchanged prior to this pick and if everyone is happy at the end of the day and we sign the guys we got 1-11, I don't really care.

[Otto von Ballpark]

 

Indy ball is always an option too. Bottom line is your building a relationship with a player for 1 -20 years. You draft him and say "you'll take slot or less than slot or don't sign", you treating the player and the agent with disregard and little respect. Even if his agent caves and says "this is the best your going to get lets sign and move on" your playing a lot of hard ball early on in a long relationship with someone who earned his bonus with an almost historic year.  Plus yeah, it will get around, and no one will sign the redraft paper with the Twins, especially the ones connected to that agent.

I didn't say anything about treating him with disregard, or giving him ultimatums.  He was drafted around his projected slot, what's wrong with offering him slot and letting him think about it for a couple days?  The player and agent don't have an automatic right to always ask for and receive a little more, with the justification that the extra amount isn't important enough to sink the deal.

 

Now, I'm guessing it's a nominal amount here, maybe a result of having money left over, but that suggests something about our draft strategy didn't go quite as planned.  (And that doesn't mean it was a bad draft either, it's just interesting to discuss.)

[nicksaviking]

Kyle Wright is signing for over 7M, which is more than 1.3M higher than slot. McKay is reportedly going to be paid even more by TB.

 

Yet it's the Twins HS pick Lewis who is going underslot; it will be interesting to see what Greene and Gore do.

 

I wonder if something has shifted in that the HS kids know going to school for two or three years until their next draft opportunity is a much bigger risk than a college junior going back for only one more season to a place they already dominated.

 

Just spitballing, something certainly changed this year.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Kyle Wright is signing for over 7M, which is more than 1.3M higher than slot. McKay is reportedly going to be paid even more by TB.

 

Yet it's the Twins HS pick Lewis who is going underslot; it will be interesting to see what Greene and Gore do.

 

I wonder if something has shifted in that the HS kids know going to school for two or three years until their next draft opportunity is a much bigger risk than a college junior going back for only one more season to a place they already dominated.

 

Just spitballing, something certainly changed this year.

 

Ya, totally backward from previous years! I'm boggled, actually.