mlhouse Verified Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Ok....the Twins have the 1st, 35th, and 37th pick in the 2017 draft. You get to pick ANY player from this list you want. Then one player ranked 30+ and another ranked 35+. Who are your 3 selections? http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=draft Mine? 1. Jeren Kendall OF Vandy Greene is really tempting but a HS RHP is a tough buy at this spot. I think Kendall is a 5 tool guy that is going to be hitting in the 3rd spot in this lineup very quickly. 35. Shane Baz RHP Texas HS 37. Griffin Canning RHP UCLA
Squirrel Community Moderator Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 FYI: There are two other ongoing threads should you wish to see some of the discussion that has already taken place. http://twinsdaily.com/topic/24079-article-early-2017-draft-prospects/ http://twinsdaily.com/topic/23980-2017-mlb-draft-thread/
nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Ok....the Twins have the 1st, 35th, and 37th pick in the 2017 draft. You get to pick ANY player from this list you want. Then one player ranked 30+ and another ranked 35+. Who are your 3 selections? http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=draft Mine? 1. Jeren Kendall OF Vandy Greene is really tempting but a HS RHP is a tough buy at this spot. I think Kendall is a 5 tool guy that is going to be hitting in the 3rd spot in this lineup very quickly. 35. Shane Baz RHP Texas HS 37. Griffin Canning RHP UCLA That's pretty good. Would also take Garrett Mitchell instead of Canning.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Faedo, Vientos, Baez. High upside college starter and two nice HS prospects.
jimmer Verified Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 I can't pass on hunter greeneWith what we know right now, I endorse this call. Of course, plenty of stuff can happen between now and then.
darin617 Verified Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 I can't pass on hunter greeneGreat talent no doubt about that, but I would like a player that could be ready in 2 years instead of 4. The Twins seem to chase the high school talent so I am lost on what they would do.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Great talent no doubt about that, but I would like a player that could be ready in 2 years instead of 4. The Twins seem to chase the high school talent so I am lost on what they would do.New FO and draft guru. I think they should get a college pitcher with their first pick and upside HS arm at 35. But if they went with Greene at #1, I'd say the next two picks should be college players.
nytwinsfan Provisional Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 Either way, this is going to be the most fun draft in at least decades.
sftwinsfan Verified Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 I'd lean 1. Alex Faedo or Kyle Wright-Greene is tempting, but HS pitchers are such an extreme risk and it would be nice to potentially have a starter who would stand a good chance of reaching the majors while guys like Sano and Buxton are still with the team. 35. Wil Crowe37. Shane Baz-I'd also look at Mark Vientos, Griffin Canning, and Peter Solomon Doesn't seem to be a lot of hitting talent in this draft so I'd go towards the strength of the draft since it also lines up with need. Get as many starters with talent into the system as possible.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 I think one of the top collegiate starters is going to emerge from the pack, and that's the direction I'd go at No. 1 unless Hunter Greene just does ridiculous things this spring. Agree with the emphasis on finding someone who has a good chance to help while Buxton and Sano are hitting their peaks.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted January 22, 2017 Posted January 22, 2017 New FO and draft guru. I think they should get a college pitcher with their first pick and upside HS arm at 35. But if they went with Greene at #1, I'd say the next two picks should be college players. Honestly, I doubt whomever goes 1-1 signs for slot. With that in mind, they may be able to get an HS player that falls due to being "too expensive." College guys have a bit less leverage. They could still very much get an HS player for the next two picks.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Honestly, I doubt whomever goes 1-1 signs for slot. With that in mind, they may be able to get an HS player that falls due to being "too expensive." College guys have a bit less leverage. They could still very much get an HS player for the next two picks.I agree. Someone in the 10-20 range will be available at 35. We just don't know who yet.
sftwinsfan Verified Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Too bad the new collective bargaining agreement will affect this year's draft. Lowering the slot value of the #1 pick from over $9 million to $7.4 million definitely hurts the Twins leverage in negotiations as well as their chance to get creative.
Tecmo Provisional Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Guthrie's kid with one of the 30s picks makes sense. College shortstop who could maybe be ready fairly soon and the Twins have already drafted him once.
AlwaysinModeration Verified Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Could they get JJ Schwarz with their second or third pick?
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Could they get JJ Schwarz with their second or third pick?I would doubt it. If he has a season that shows he can stick at catcher and hit at the ML level, he'll get scooped up fairly quickly. If he has a repeat of last season - questions about whether he can stay behind the plate, injuries - he might not be worth the risk. And if he has a big bat season but can't catcher - so his future is at first base or DH he'd probably be gone, too. He could fall if he had high signing demands but I'm not sure how to guess on those things this far out.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Ok....the Twins have the 1st, 35th, and 37th pick in the 2017 draft. You get to pick ANY player from this list you want. Then one player ranked 30+ and another ranked 35+. Who are your 3 selections? http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=draft Mine? 1. Jeren Kendall OF Vandy Greene is really tempting but a HS RHP is a tough buy at this spot. I think Kendall is a 5 tool guy that is going to be hitting in the 3rd spot in this lineup very quickly. 35. Shane Baz RHP Texas HS 37. Griffin Canning RHP UCLA way too much swing and miss on Kendall right now. If it doesn't get better this year, no way I take him 1:1. I go with whichever college pitcher steps forward, if none do, I go Greene.Mark Ventos or HolmesAlex Sherff
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 I would doubt it. If he has a season that shows he can stick at catcher and hit at the ML level, he'll get scooped up fairly quickly. If he has a repeat of last season - questions about whether he can stay behind the plate, injuries - he might not be worth the risk. And if he has a big bat season but can't catcher - so his future is at first base or DH he'd probably be gone, too. He could fall if he had high signing demands but I'm not sure how to guess on those things this far out. I think is he's hurt, and is there in round 2, I might take him. When healthy, he's a hitter. But, I doubt it....either he's healthy and produces, in which case he is gone in round 1, or he's not healthy, and they go OF/SS and P (or another OF/SS).
ALessKosherScott Provisional Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 1. Faedo or Green. These two seem like the best bets to be a front line pitcher in the mix. I'm also eyeing Schwarz to see if he has a comeback year. 35. Mark Vierros is the kind of 3B prospect I generally like. A little bit more batting average or power will make him a star. Although he is #32 and the kind of prospect likely to go sooner than later. 37. I like Estrada as a pitcher as a combination of stuff, command and delivery. But I could be talked into Carlson as well.
goulik Verified Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Looking at draft prospects 30+, no pitcher excites me. We need a top of the rotation pitcher which means I need Greene or Faedo in this draft. Greene is in High School and is all projection and hope. Faedo has shown the skills for 3 years of college and is expected to be top of the rotation talent with two pitches rated 60 and 55 command. I am going with him #1 overall. At #35 I would dream of Nick Allen falling to me but realistically (and following your rules of #30+) I am probably picking Ricardo De La Torre. Hey, I like Puerto Rico, don't you? I am picking him instead of a pitcher because the pitcher I want is ranked below him. At #37, I am taking Shane Baz. His "upside" is front line starter. We don't need more back of the rotation starters. (see: too many of these pitchers projections) If I am going to risk a pick on a HS prospect I would rather do it at 37 than 1. Too much risk of "wasting" a #1 on a HS starting pitcher. I can risk pick #37 when Faedo is already in the fold.
Aaron Cross Verified Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 I want Mark Guthrie's kid!
beckmt Verified Member Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 Draft is still near 1/2 year away. I am concerned with any overused college pitcher as a possible TJ surgery before he hits Minneapolis. At this time I am in the Greene camp, but there is a lot to shake out this spring.
Cory Engelhardt Verified Member Posted January 25, 2017 Posted January 25, 2017 Ok....the Twins have the 1st, 35th, and 37th pick in the 2017 draft. You get to pick ANY player from this list you want. Then one player ranked 30+ and another ranked 35+. Who are your 3 selections? http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=draft Mine? 1. Jeren Kendall OF Vandy Greene is really tempting but a HS RHP is a tough buy at this spot. I think Kendall is a 5 tool guy that is going to be hitting in the 3rd spot in this lineup very quickly. 35. Shane Baz RHP Texas HS 37. Griffin Canning RHP UCLA My pick, as of today (and this will probably all change since the draft is so far out, is... 1) Hunter Greene 35) Griffin Canning 37) Burnsville's own Sam Carlson Yes, that is 3 pitchers, but I really like all of them as of this date. Course, if someone like Royce Lewis jumps up and earns that top spot, all bets are off. And, obviously, there are people that are high on this list now that can fall.
Cory Engelhardt Verified Member Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Draft slot money and team pools came out today. Twins have the most in their pool. The #1 pick is worth about 7.4 million (the #5 pick is a shade over 5 million.) #35 is about 1.8, and #37 is about 1.6. If I am reading this right, the Twins could offer the #1 pick the #5 slot money, and then have enough left to offer the #9 slot money to the #35 pick (about, it's not perfect, but about that. Please correct me if I am wrong on that math. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-mlb-draft-slots-bonus-pools/#eixWvTKB42Gtj6fm.97
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Draft slot money and team pools came out today. Twins have the most in their pool. The #1 pick is worth about 7.4 million (the #5 pick is a shade over 5 million.) #35 is about 1.8, and #37 is about 1.6. If I am reading this right, the Twins could offer the #1 pick the #5 slot money, and then have enough left to offer the #9 slot money to the #35 pick (about, it's not perfect, but about that. Please correct me if I am wrong on that math. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-mlb-draft-slots-bonus-pools/#eixWvTKB42Gtj6fm.97 The math doesn't have to be exact for me to get excited as this is what I was hoping for. A 2M discount with these lower pools might be a bit steep for the 1st overall pick, but I'm still pretty confident the that if the Twins are smart, they can offer top 10-15 money to someone at pick #35. I can't wait, the Twins can be the jerks of the draft if they choose. And I so hope they choose to be jerks!
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Draft slot money and team pools came out today. Twins have the most in their pool. The #1 pick is worth about 7.4 million (the #5 pick is a shade over 5 million.) #35 is about 1.8, and #37 is about 1.6. If I am reading this right, the Twins could offer the #1 pick the #5 slot money, and then have enough left to offer the #9 slot money to the #35 pick (about, it's not perfect, but about that. Please correct me if I am wrong on that math. http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-mlb-draft-slots-bonus-pools/#eixWvTKB42Gtj6fm.97thanks for the info!
drjim Provisional Member Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Flattening the value of picks was a good change, just wish it wouldn't hurt the Twins right out of the chute.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Flattening the value of picks was a good change, just wish it wouldn't hurt the Twins right out of the chute. for the teams.....maybe. not for the players.
drjim Provisional Member Posted January 27, 2017 Posted January 27, 2017 for the teams.....maybe. not for the players.Maybe the most elite guys. For the vast majority of them it works fine.
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