GP830 Verified Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 According to my 45 second research project, the pirates have two nice looking young catchers (Maguire, and Diaz) in the pipeline, and seem to be seeking bullpen help. What do you think it would take to pry away some of their existing surplus?
GP830 Verified Member Posted July 19, 2016 Author Posted July 19, 2016 According to another quick look, they may also need starters. Maybe a Santana+Abad for one of the young catchers and a young flamethrower?
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 According to my 45 second research project, the pirates have two nice looking young catchers (Maguire, and Diaz) in the pipeline, and seem to be seeking bullpen help. What do you think it would take to pry away some of their existing surplus?Well it would first take actually having somoene in our bullpen that would be valuable for another team. I'm not sure we have any?
Lonestar Verified Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 The Twins would have to eat Santana's salary this year to get surplus value.I would. Will Pohlad?The Pirates could like dump Santana on a team like the Rockies in the off-season.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 According to another quick look, they may also need starters. Maybe a Santana+Abad for one of the young catchers and a young flamethrower?They just called up Glasnow, who is a pretty good pitching prospect. Not sure they will send him back down.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 The Pirates are also very frugal (remember how much they resisted paying for a month of Justin Morneau?). They are not taking on significant salary like Ervin Santana.
Winston Smith Verified Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I doubt that the guys we have to trade are worth much. Either not very good or bad contracts limit what will come back.
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 According to a more in depth view, the Pirates top 2 catchers are on the DL and their current starter in the position is Erik Fryer... Cervelli had hand surgery and for a catcher that is not quite good.They might need Suzuki Their pen is fine, but they do need starters. Both Niese and Locke are about to get the boot (and, no, the Twins should not go after any of them) They have already shuffled a good dozen pitchers (both starters and relievers) between AAA and the majors this year
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 According to my 45 second research project, the pirates have two nice looking young catchers (Maguire, and Diaz) in the pipeline, and seem to be seeking bullpen help. What do you think it would take to pry away some of their existing surplus? BTW, count me as a no against a all glove no bat catcher in Maguire. We have one of those in Stuart Turner.
jorgenswest Verified Member Posted July 19, 2016 Posted July 19, 2016 I think the Pirates will opt for defense over offense at catcher. They were among the first to reference pitch framing. Cervelli has been among the best. I wouldn't imagine that Suzuki would be one of their targets.
jimmer Verified Member Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I think the Pirates will opt for defense over offense at catcher. They were among the first to reference pitch framing. Cervelli has been among the best. I wouldn't imagine that Suzuki would be one of their targets.Wait a minute. A team values defense? Is that allowed? :-)
JaleelWhite FanClub Provisional Member Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Don't know if they'd do it, but how about Dozier for Glasnow or Taillion? The poster above who talked about the Pirates frugalness was dead on. I doubt they trade a young (cheap) prospect. But Dozier's contract is not bad. Staying in the division, the Cardinals desperately need a 2B to replace Wong, who's having a terrible year. Reyes is obviously off the table, but at least the Cardinals are always willing to deal.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I highly doubt Pittsburg parts with Tallion or Glasnow. Count me in if they want to.
alarp33 Provisional Member Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 Don't know if they'd do it, but how about Dozier for Glasnow or Taillion? The poster above who talked about the Pirates frugalness was dead on. I doubt they trade a young (cheap) prospect. But Dozier's contract is not bad. I'll help out. They wouldn't do it.
howieramone2 Verified Member Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I doubt that the guys we have to trade are worth much. Either not very good or bad contracts limit what will come back.I beg to differ. We have the most valuable commodity in all of baseball, which is young starting pitching. BA had 6 starting pitchers in our top 10.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 20, 2016 Posted July 20, 2016 I beg to differ. We have the most valuable commodity in all of baseball, which is young starting pitching. BA had 6 starting pitchers in our top 10. In the context of acquiring prospects, prospect commodities are not worth that much.
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