Next Roster Moves?

[Loosey]

Now that the big one is out of the way what are the next roster moves the Twins make?  Santana is eligible on Sunday so once he is cleared who is being sent down?  My guess is Meyer or Thompson goes down and Milone/May gets a move to the Pen.  However, there still is the issue of Hicks in AAA, Buxton on the DL and Arcia starting to hit a little bit better.  Additionally, Max Kepler is due for a promotion to at least AAA and no spots appear to be available there for now.

 

At what point do teams start clearing rosters of "filler" position players in order to promote prospects to where they should be.  For example Wilkin Ramirez is what he is, should he be holding a roster spot over someone who is considered a prospect still? 

[Mike Sixel]

What I'd like to see:

 

• Santana (pitching version) in the rotation, Pelfrey or Milone to the bullpen. Cut a bullpen arm.
• Kepler to AAA.
• Rodgers to the bullpen in AAA, then in MN to replace almost anyone in the MN bullpen. Odds he starts more than a handful of games in MN are super low at this point, and he dominates lefties.
• 1-2 more weeks out of Arcia being good, then in MN, and I don't know who gone.

 

[gunnarthor]

It depends on how people are playing.  With Buxton out, I think Rosario is the main CFer, which clears a potential spot for Arcia, if he earns his way up.  I don't think Hicks comes up.

 

I think Pelfrey goes to the pen and Duensing is released.  I don't think the team will send Meyer down quite yet but he has to start having some better outings.  

[nytwinsfan]

 

 

What I'd like to see:

 

• Santana (pitching version) in the rotation, Pelfrey or Milone to the bullpen. Cut a bullpen arm.
• Kepler to AAA.
• Rodgers to the bullpen in AAA, then in MN to replace almost anyone in the MN bullpen. Odds he starts more than a handful of games in MN are super low at this point, and he dominates lefties.
• 1-2 more weeks out of Arcia being good, then in MN, and I don't know who gone.

 

Agreed on all counts.  Would also move Polanco to AAA.

[Loosey]

 

It depends on how people are playing.  With Buxton out, I think Rosario is the main CFer, which clears a potential spot for Arcia, if he earns his way up.  I don't think Hicks comes up.

 

I think Pelfrey goes to the pen and Duensing is released.  I don't think the team will send Meyer down quite yet but he has to start having some better outings.  

I just don't see the team releasing Duensing as much as it probably should happen.  They like him too much on a personal level I feel.  That being said if I was making $2 mil I wouldn't be sad if someone told me to take the rest of my salary for the year but don't come back to work.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Agreed on all counts.  Would also move Polanco to AAA.

 

I thought about the Polanco thing, almost added it, wasn't sure. There isn't room for Kepler in CF and Polanco at SS, if Santana is playing both those positions (obviously not the same night......).

[SwainZag]

 

I just don't see the team releasing Duensing as much as it probably should happen.  They like him too much on a personal level I feel.  That being said if I was making $2 mil I wouldn't be sad if someone told me to take the rest of my salary for the year but don't come back to work.

 

I can see them sending Thompson to AAA before I could see them straight releasing Duensing

[Danchat]

I'm still expecting the Twins to put Robinson on the 15 day DL and send Hicks back up. If Robinson is healthy, then send down Santana for Hicks. Santana needs to spend more time hitting in AAA.

[stringer bell]

 

I'm still expecting the Twins to put Robinson on the 15 day DL and send Hicks back up. If Robinson is healthy, then send down Santana for Hicks. Santana needs to spend more time hitting in AAA.

Agree with you there. Santana has been close to a black hole in the bottom of the lineup. We may never see the .319 DanSan of 2014, but the .275 version (where he was in early May) is missing too. A while back I thought the Twins had two shortstops, now I'm not sure if they have even one.

[drjim]

I can see them sending Thompson to AAA before I could see them straight releasing Duensing

Agree with this.

[USAFChief]

I don't understand playing a bad outfielder with a weak bat when Hicks could be up playing CF. At least you'd have a good outfielder with a weak bat.

[HitInAPinch]

IMHO:

Hughes, E. Santana, Gibson and Pelfrey are locks.  Milone has shown his metal and should be in the rotation.

They need to consider trading Pelfrey soon.  He's had a couple ugly starts, but if he get's straightened out, no way he resigns with the Twins.  

I would not waste time and effort trying to transform May into a reliever.  May is a starter, if the Twins can't use him, trade him for outfielders. 

If Nolasco recovers from his right ankle impingement I'd be stunned.

More auditions.  I'd probably start rotating MiLB relievers into the MLB bullpen. 

[Platoon]

It is very difficult to have your name (TR) on a 2 mil contract, and then cut the guy. It's a blatant admission that you bleeped up! And it's not that no one bleeps up, everyone does. It's that no one wants to admit it so very publicly! And as one other poster pointed out, the Twins like Duensing. And the Twins are faithful to a fault to the players the "like".

[SwainZag]

 

IMHO:

Hughes, E. Santana, Gibson and Pelfrey are locks.  Milone has shown his metal and should be in the rotation.

They need to consider trading Pelfrey soon.  He's had a couple ugly starts, but if he get's straightened out, no way he resigns with the Twins.  

I would not waste time and effort trying to transform May into a reliever.  May is a starter, if the Twins can't use him, trade him for outfielders. 

If Nolasco recovers from his right ankle impingement I'd be stunned.

More auditions.  I'd probably start rotating MiLB relievers into the MLB bullpen. 

 

I don't see how you can give up on May after what he has done in basically his rookie year this year.  To me he looks like he has a really bright future and should definitely be part of the Twins future plans.  Trading him, especially for OF parts when we have Rosario, Hicks, Buxton, Kepler, etc seems counter productive.

[jimbo92107]

Moves that would be best for the team:

 

- Danny Santana back to AAA for the rest of the season, plays SS. Work on harder stride, punching his hands at the ball. Needs to lengthen his barrel carry through the zone.

- Jorge Polanco called up to SS.

- Kepler called up to CF. I'd rather send him to AAA, but see if Der Kid can hit mlb stuff better than Hicks. Necessary experiment.

- Send down or DFA Thompson, Boyer and Duensing,

- Call up Taylor Rogers and Caleb Thielbar to the pen.

- Move Trevor May to pen to replace Boyer.

- Starting rotation: Hughes, Ervin Santana, Gibson, Pelfrey, Milone. The order doesn't matter much.

 

[ttreadway]

This is what I want to see done. I am not very well versed in the minor league rosters, so I probably will not see the corresponding moves that would have to be done to accomplish this. 

 

1. I still like Danny Santana, but think he needs to rebuild confidence. Send him down to AA, let him get that confidence back. Let Escobar (who is playing better lately) and Nunez platoon at short for now, and send Polanco up to AAA. I'd love to see Polanco in the lineup by sometime in August...I think his bat belongs there, and would be very happy to see Buxton, Rosario, Sano and Polanco in the big league lineup for several months to end the year.

 

2. Cut Duensing, Send Aaron Thompson to AAA along with Alex Meyer or Ryan Pressley. Neither have been good lately, so give them each a couple more shots and keep whoever fares better.

 

3. By narrowing our pitching down to 12, we can open up a spot for Arcia if he continues hitting well in AAA. The more I look at what we've got in our farm the more I realize Arcia probably won't be with the twins forever, but let him play up here, even if only 2-3 days a week to build some value so we can get something for him this off season in a trade.

 

4. Starting rotation for now should be Hughes, Santana, Gibson, Pelfrey & May. 

 

5. Trade Pelfrey ASAP for the best catching prospect the market will bring...biggest position of need in our farm system. 

 

6. Once we trade Pelfrey, move Milone back to the rotation and give Meyer another shot in the big league pen.

 

7. Bring JO Berrios to the major league rotation sometime early to mid august if he lights up AAA over the next month. If he does not, we have a better than adequate stop-gap starter in Milone.

 

That's my two cents. I don't think we're going to make the playoffs this year, and even if we did we wouldn't make it very far. But, I'm hopeful that by getting our young guys experience this year, maybe we could win some games in October next year.

[Loosey]

 

I don't see how you can give up on May after what he has done in basically his rookie year this year.  To me he looks like he has a really bright future and should definitely be part of the Twins future plans.  Trading him, especially for OF parts when we have Rosario, Hicks, Buxton, Kepler, etc seems counter productive.

Agree.  The Twins actually have too many unproven Outfielders at this point and not enough big league playing time to go around for each of them to prove if they have the ability to be a good Major League player.  I think the Twins need to honestly assess their minor league assets this off season and decide who really is a part of the future and who they are just hanging onto hoping they turn into something they thought they once had.

[jun]

 

IMHO:

Hughes, E. Santana, Gibson and Pelfrey are locks.  Milone has shown his metal and should be in the rotation.

They need to consider trading Pelfrey soon.  He's had a couple ugly starts, but if he get's straightened out, no way he resigns with the Twins.  

I would not waste time and effort trying to transform May into a reliever.  May is a starter, if the Twins can't use him, trade him for outfielders. 

If Nolasco recovers from his right ankle impingement I'd be stunned.

More auditions.  I'd probably start rotating MiLB relievers into the MLB bullpen. 

May is a starter? A five or six inning starter?

[spinowner]

I favor keeping Milone in the rotation somehow because I think it's good to have at least one left-handed starter. We should have been putting out feelers for a Pelfrey trade several weeks ago. As far as whom to contact about that: it looks like the top four teams in the AL East could be in a logjam the rest of this season and I'd bet one of them would be interested.

[SwainZag]

 

May is a starter? A five or six inning starter?

 

Yes, May is a starter and has the best numbers out of the starters when you consider Fip, xFIp, WAR.  is downside is he throws too many pitches and lasts just less than 6 innings on average, but there's no way I take him out of the rotation.

[Pardon My Dinger]

Trevor May is one of three guys on the big league club who i wouldn't even consider trading.

[diehardtwinsfan]

1.  Trade one of Milone/Pelfrey

2.  Move Escobar to SS, option Santana and call up Arcia.

3.  DFA Robinson when Hicks is ready.

4.  Replace Duensing with O'Rourke and if that experiment fails, give Taylor Rogers a shoot as a LOOGY.

5.  Aquire another bullpen arm and option/DFA Aaron Thompson.

[Loosey]

 

Option number one trade Pelfrey is a must. Before that fools gold turns to a complete pumpkin and still has

a tiny bit of value they need to move on from Pelfrey. He pitched well enough yesterday that maybe you could get someone like the Mets to take him off your hands for a catcher (Chris Mendoza line Herman and *!$*! Suzuki).

We need catching and the Mets have a little catching depth so perhaps we can swap.

Option 2 I would have already done, Santana is not hitting and still comitting errors in the field, and you need another DH pinch hit option. Twins are really right handed right now so an Arcia could help the line-up from that side of the plate. I could live with Escobar and Nunez platooning in the SS role for now, until Polanco is ready to make the jump.

Unfortunately if you can see that Pelfrey is going to turn into a pumpkin soon, so can other Major League baseball team executives.  IF, big IF the Twins traded Pelfrey my guess is the return would be a low level prospect or if they get a ML ready talent that player would not be an improvement over any player currently on the roster.  I think the Twins know this as well.  So for now we just have to hold on tight and enjoy the ride until Pelfrey blows up again.  Plus his last outing really did not help the cause for trading him.

[John Kelsey]

-Hicks up, Santana down

-E. Santana to rotation, Pelfrey to pen, Thompson down

-Rogers up to Twins bullpen, Duensing DFAd

-Kepler to AAA

[gocgo]

 

IMHO:

Hughes, E. Santana, Gibson and Pelfrey are locks.  Milone has shown his metal and should be in the rotation.

They need to consider trading Pelfrey soon.  He's had a couple ugly starts, but if he get's straightened out, no way he resigns with the Twins.  

I would not waste time and effort trying to transform May into a reliever.  May is a starter, if the Twins can't use him, trade him for outfielders. 

If Nolasco recovers from his right ankle impingement I'd be stunned.

More auditions.  I'd probably start rotating MiLB relievers into the MLB bullpen. 

Agree 100 percent...if you can get something for him.  Not so sure about that second part.

[HitInAPinch]

 

May is a starter? A five or six inning starter?

 

I don't see how you can give up on May after what he has done in basically his rookie year this year.  To me he looks like he has a really bright future and should definitely be part of the Twins future plans.  Trading him, especially for OF parts when we have Rosario, Hicks, Buxton, Kepler, etc seems counter productive.

 

I'll let you 2 duke it out

 

I didn't say I'd give up on May.  I said May is a starter, not a reliever and if the Twins feel they don't have room for him as a starter, they should trade him. 

 

[jokin]

 

I don't understand playing a bad outfielder with a weak bat when Hicks could be up playing CF. At least you'd have a good outfielder with a weak bat.

 

He looks to still be on double secret probation- the Twins appeared to be miffed at that report of a last-minute injury and pulling himself from that Saturday game. Although he's still listed as under rehab, he technically should be able to come off of the DL at any time.

[stringer bell]

 

I'll let you 2 duke it out

 

I didn't say I'd give up on May.  I said May is a starter, not a reliever and if the Twins feel they don't have room for him as a starter, they should trade him. 

The flaw here is that we are in July. Unless the Twins other five starters all stay healthy and effective, May will be back in the rotation at some point. He should be a good option for 2016 and beyond. I am in the camp that believes the Twins should try to contend this year until it is certain they can't. All moves should made this year should be earmarked to help the team this year without hurting the club from 2016 and beyond.

[jokin]

 

The flaw here is that we are in July. Unless the Twins other five starters all stay healthy and effective, May will be back in the rotation at some point. He should be a good option for 2016 and beyond. I am in the camp that believes the Twins should try to contend this year until it is certain they can't. All moves should made this year should be earmarked to help the team this year without hurting the club from 2016 and beyond.

 

This

[blairpaul715]

 

Trevor May is one of three guys on the big league club who i wouldn't even consider trading.

May for Posey!!!!