Twins Place Byron Buxton On DL

[drjim]

 

You mean by being on the DL for 2 weeks? He provides no value that way.

 

How many slides will it matter on, 2-3 a year maybe? 5 even?....he's out for 15 days now....

 

I would say an average of 1 a week minimum. Poor slides might have already cost him 2 or 3 plays and he was safe on a head first slide that likely would have been out feet first.

 

So I don't buy this at all. He has to learn proper technique or the best case is he is much less valuable and his speed no longer plays on the bases.

[d-mac]

 

I would say an average of 1 a week minimum. Poor slides might have already cost him 2 or 3 plays and he was safe on a head first slide that likely would have been out feet first.

 

So I don't buy this at all. He has to learn proper technique or the best case is he is much less valuable and his speed no longer plays on the bases.

 

Agreed. From what I've seen so far it looks like he doesn't have the ability to drive the ball well; he has to create much of his slugging percentage with his feet. Thus, so much of his value is tied up in being able to stretch singles into doubles, doubles into triples, and stealing bases. Making outs on the basepaths is one of the cardinal sins of run scoring. 

[nicksaviking]

 

Disagree if you want.....guys worth millions of dollars get hurt more sliding head first......I don't want that.

 

Sounds good. Chris Herrmann and Eduardo are still OK to do it then.

[stringer bell]

Hicks was disabled on a Sunday, so his 15 weeks would be over this Sunday. If he says he is ready and the Twins agree, he should be back in center field for the Reds series. I wouldn't mind seeing Rosario in center for a day or two, but Santana played center at Miller Park last year and Robinson is the far more experienced center fielder. If he and Rosario are starting then Robinson should probably be in center.

 

Regarding Buxton, it is technique that got him injured, not the act of the headfirst slide. Almost every speedy runner uses the headfirst slide, for good reason. I suppose they will use rehab time for him and it will be no sure thing that he returns to Minnesota when his rehab is up. Comparing Hicks month+ to Buxton's two weeks--Hicks was just as good defensively and hit slightly better. Hicks was actually better on the bases, but he doesn't have game-changing speed like Buxton has. 

[Rosterman]

Now wait. Here is the opportunity to move Rosario to center and bring Arcia back up. Or perhaps give Kepler a look for two weeks. We don't need Danny Santana being centerfielder by default. Especially if he performs really well. Think of the problems that will cause!

[dxpavelka]

 

Just awful...... does anyone really believe this is an actual injury? Danny Santana plays awful for an entire year, gets 12 games in the minors, hits .276 and is now our CF. yee-haw.

At least Santana was solid last year.  More than we can say for Buxton thus far this year.   The kid should be fine in the long run but at this point I don't believe the sky is falling.

[diehardtwinsfan]

seems to me that he hurt his wrist sliding into 3rd I think.  If it's technique, that really is something his minor league instructors should have been working with him on.  That slide was ridiculous. 

[HitInAPinch]

Molitor says a month, eh?  Watching the video Parker posted [ THANKS PARKER! ] Molitor is being kind. Buxton's wrist bent all the way back at full impact.  At best, I'm guessing sever sprain;  out 2-3  months.  But at that kind of impact, a broken wrist isn't out of the question.  I hope I'm wrong on both....

 

I find the fact that D. Santana played a game in CF interesting.  Was it recently?  Then I'd find it VERY interesting. 

[John Kelsey]

 

Molitor says a month, eh?  Watching the video Parker posted [ THANKS PARKER! ] Molitor is being kind. Buxton's wrist bent all the way back at full impact.  At best, I'm guessing sever sprain;  out 2-3  months.  But at that kind of impact, a broken wrist isn't out of the question.  I hope I'm wrong on both....

 

I find the fact that D. Santana played a game in CF interesting.  Was it recently?  Then I'd find it VERY interesting. 

 

I think I'll stick with what the team said over a guy assessing injuries after watching a four second video. 

[spinowner]

Even experienced athletes can injure themselves on clumsy plays, but looking at the slide this injury looks very much like a rookie mistake.

I agree with those who have said that minor league coaching should include teaching proper base running techniques, especially sliding. This is not something players should be learning on their own on a trial and error basis.

[d-mac]

 

Now wait. Here is the opportunity to move Rosario to center and bring Arcia back up. Or perhaps give Kepler a look for two weeks. We don't need Danny Santana being centerfielder by default. Especially if he performs really well. Think of the problems that will cause!

 

Come'on! An outfield of Arcia/Rosario/Hunter doesn't sound like a disaster to you?

[blairpaul715]

 

Hopefully its nothing serious

Its the Twins diagnosed as a little thing, will need TJ or rotator cuff surgery JK

[Kirby_waved_at_me]

So... is it too late to call Schafer and re-sign him until Hicks can return? (not that he's Willie Mays out there, but is there a clear better option?)

[jorgenswest]

I haven't seen Rosario play CF, but it is hard to imagine that Santana would be better. We have even the results of good defense on the pitching. We saw how Nunez lack of range and misplay at SS extended Pelfrey's start and cost the team on Tuesday. We saw how Schafer's inability to take a good path to the ball hurt earlier in the year.

 

The Twins need pitching, defense and production from the top 4 in the lineup. Those 4 need to step up and the others need to keep runs off the board.

[stringer bell]

It won't surprise me to see Escobar in left, or Robinson in center. It also wouldn't surprise me to see Santana in center for the weekend. No controversy about leadoff, Dozier hits there. Let's hope that Hicks is ready to go Monday.

[Mike Sixel]

If he's out that long.....I'd call up Kepler I think. But man, that's rushing him (and yes, I said that).

[Kirby_waved_at_me]

Arcia would make sense if he weren't in the middle of another slump right now... maybe being sent down messed with his head a bit? Either way, he's going to have to tear up AAA like he's supposed to before he gets another chance. His hitting has to be up to a level to make up for his poor fielding, and right now he's not doing that.

 

I take it back about Schafer, I don't expect or want him to play in CF, but I'd rather have him as a 4th OF than Escobar or Santana... It's hopefully just temporary anyway and Hicks will be able to return early next week.

[Parker Hageman]

I should add that Buxton has shown a decent headfirst slide technique in the past but there have been a couple of instances watching on MiLB.tv that he sort of bounces in his slide.

 

https://twitter.com/ParkerHageman/status/612787993921880064

[stringer bell]

 

If he's out that long.....I'd call up Kepler I think. But man, that's rushing him (and yes, I said that).

What about Hicks? He's eligible to be off the DL in three days and before Buck's injury there was no obvious place for him to play.

[JB_Iowa]

LaVelle E. Neal III ‏@LaVelleNeal  · 11m11 minutes ago 
Molitor said Byron Buxton could be out four to six weeks.

[DocBauer]

Bubble wrap.

 

No.......seriously.

 

Bubble wrap.

[shs_59]

You guys, don't you see what's going on here?

 

Time to fire Rob Antony, Bill Smith and others that make these kinds of lame duck decisions.......when you call on Buxton as they did (waaaay to early) he wasn't even quite ready to be promoted to AAA yet, and He flails (which he flat out did)

 

There is no excuses

 

Now i've already seen up to and not limited to 1,000 Tweets involving the phrase Byron B-B-B-Buston

 

as in BUST Byron B,B,B,B-B-Buston

 

THE FO has turned Byron into a running joke over night , i mean are they trying to call up every single prospect with any resemblence of greatness from AA or high A straight to the show now ? ; what the hell. i say Brad Steil and Rob Antony and Bill SMith should all be fired.

[jokin]

 

Hicks was disabled on a Sunday, so his 15 weeks would be over this Sunday. If he says he is ready and the Twins agree, he should be back in center field for the Reds series. I wouldn't mind seeing Rosario in center for a day or two, but Santana played center at Miller Park last year and Robinson is the far more experienced center fielder. If he and Rosario are starting then Robinson should probably be in center.

 

Regarding Buxton, it is technique that got him injured, not the act of the headfirst slide. Almost every speedy runner uses the headfirst slide, for good reason. I suppose they will use rehab time for him and it will be no sure thing that he returns to Minnesota when his rehab is up. Comparing Hicks month+ to Buxton's two weeks--Hicks was just as good defensively and hit slightly better. Hicks was actually better on the bases, but he doesn't have game-changing speed like Buxton has. 

 

Hicks was much better in CF than previously, but I disagree that he was just as good defensively as Buxton.  I never had a doubt on any catchable ball with Buxton, whereas Hicks, muffed a few.  Buxton seems on the verge of being major league elite defensively, already, and definitely so probably after one time around the AL.

[Mike Sixel]

You guys, don't you see what's going on here?Time to fire Rob Antony, Bill Smith and others that make these kinds of lame duck decisions.......when you call on Buxton as they did (waaaay to early) he wasn't even quite ready to be promoted to AAA yet, and He flails (which he flat out did)There is no excusesNow i've already seen up to and not limited to 1,000 Tweets involving the phrase Byron B-B-B-Bustonas in BUST Byron B,B,B,B-B-BustonTHE FO has turned Byron into a running joke over night , i mean are they trying to call up every single prospect with any resemblence of greatness from AA or high A straight to the show now ? ; what the hell. i say Brad Steil and Rob Antony and Bill SMith should all be fired.

This it's my favorite post on this thread.

[JB_Iowa]

Does Bill Smith even HAVE anything to do with player-personnel?  Or is just still the favorite whipping boy?

[gunnarthor]

 

Does Bill Smith even HAVE anything to do with player-personnel?  Or is just still the favorite whipping boy?

In all seriousness, I thought his two areas had nothing to do with player development or acquisition.  I thought he was in charge of renovation of the Ft Myers complex and expanding the Twins relationships in Latin America with the scouts and notarios and whatnot.

[70charger]

 

You guys, don't you see what's going on here?

Time to fire Rob Antony, Bill Smith and others that make these kinds of lame duck decisions.......when you call on Buxton as they did (waaaay to early) he wasn't even quite ready to be promoted to AAA yet, and He flails (which he flat out did)

There is no excuses

Now i've already seen up to and not limited to 1,000 Tweets involving the phrase Byron B-B-B-Buston

as in BUST Byron B,B,B,B-B-Buston

THE FO has turned Byron into a running joke over night , i mean are they trying to call up every single prospect with any resemblence of greatness from AA or high A straight to the show now ? ; what the hell. i say Brad Steil and Rob Antony and Bill SMith should all be fired.

 

Uhhhh. Wat?

[RealTwinsFan357]

I haven't been on this thread, so maybe somebody already posted this, but I felt like this would have been a great opportunity to promote Kepler...He could have played CF for three games until Hicks comes off the DL at the end of the weekend

[ashbury]

what the hell. i say Brad Steil and Rob Antony and Bill SMith should all be fired.

And how about that Calvin Griffith fellow? I mean, how does he even still have a job with this team? He needed to be let go from his job years ago. Him and Cookie Lavagetto together, I mean, of course.

[twinsnorth49]

 

You guys, don't you see what's going on here?

Time to fire Rob Antony, Bill Smith and others that make these kinds of lame duck decisions.......when you call on Buxton as they did (waaaay to early) he wasn't even quite ready to be promoted to AAA yet, and He flails (which he flat out did)

There is no excuses

Now i've already seen up to and not limited to 1,000 Tweets involving the phrase Byron B-B-B-Buston

as in BUST Byron B,B,B,B-B-Buston

THE FO has turned Byron into a running joke over night , i mean are they trying to call up every single prospect with any resemblence of greatness from AA or high A straight to the show now ? ; what the hell. i say Brad Steil and Rob Antony and Bill SMith should all be fired.

Speaking of running jokes......

 

 

Are no excuses.