John Bonnes Site Manager Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I was asked this morning on KFAN where I thought Liriano would end up. I replied Atlanta; I don't think they'll get Greinke (the Rangers will) and they'll turn to Liriano. But there are literally another 10 choices: Red Sox Angels Rangers Blue Jays Dodgers Orioles Nationals Mets Blue Jays and of course, the Twins. If you have to pick a team, who would it be?
TKGuy Provisional Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Orioles, for one of Arreita, Matusz or Tillman and some B prospects.
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 In the last few weeks I might have mentioned Liriano to the Yanks for a package built around David Phelps. As of now that seems like a super stretch. I still think he will go to the NYY but not for much.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I'm guessing Baltimore - Matusz, Tyler wilson, and Robert Hinton. Trying to be optimistic.
Nebtwinsfan Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I would actually say Giants but there is a part of me that would like them to sign him to a two or three year deal if it is a good deal for the Twins financially
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 A team not in the list: Pirates in a package with Span for two of the young Pirates' pitching prospects plus a hitting prospect.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Something tells me Angels... Too bad that something is always questionable.
James Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I wouldn't be surprised with Atlanta at all. But the Angels or the Orioles would be my other two choices for destinations. I really don't know what any of those clubs would end up giving us for him, as there have been a lot of names thrown out there.
glanzer Provisional Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Nowhere. I'm beginning to think Liriano stays put and is offered that 1-year deal in hopes of obtaining the draft pick.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 A team not in the list: Pirates in a package with Span for two of the young Pirates' pitching prospects plus a hitting prospect.I like this idea best but with the promotion of Marte, the Pirates have improved thier OF and leadoff spot. Perhaps the Liriano/Span combo could be dangled to the Rangers or Nationals. My bet is also with the Angles. Last report was they somehow thought they could get James Shields for Peter Bourjos and Hank Conger. That's a pretty lowball offer. They'll continue to refuse to give up anything of real importance and will settle for Liriano. I'll bet the Twins get someone(s) who we have yet to consider. Maybe Cam Bedrosian, the front office love the sons of former Twins.
Jeremy Nygaard Twins Daily Contributor Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I was asked this morning on KFAN where I thought Liriano would end up. I replied Atlanta; I don't think they'll get Greinke (the Rangers will) and they'll turn to Liriano. But there are literally another 10 choices: Red SoxAngelsRangersBlue JaysDodgersOriolesNationalsMetsBlue Jaysand of course, the Twins. If you have to pick a team, who would it be?Are the Blue Jays the favorite because they're mentioned twice? I think the Rangers are going to make a move on a pitcher, but without bending on including Ort or Perez, they're going to miss out on the big fish (Greinke and Shields). I think that leaves Liriano and the Twins. I don't know what the cost would be, but I'm going to throw out high-A SP Roman Mendez and rookie-league SS Luis Marte.
Blake Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Liriano goes to Texas because Texas doesn't want to deal with Greinke's mental issues. I suspect Greinke would rather not have to deal with the Texas market. I also think Texas will avoid Greinke because they already have enough trouble riding herd on Josh Hamilton. I think Liriano would benefit greatly pitching under the likes of Nolan Ryan. Because I've a perfect track record with my predictions, I'm quite sure I'm wildly wrong.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Nowhere, because "we didn't think any of the offers were fair for a player of Liriano's stature and abilities. We hope to re-sign him, as we look forward to building a better rotation in 2013. Go buy some tickets". But then, I'm having a crappy work week, so maybe I'm just jaded.....really, I think he ends up in Anaheim/LA/whatever they are called. And we'll go "that's all he could get"....
Boom Boom Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Nowhere, because "we didn't think any of the offers were fair for a player of Liriano's stature and abilities. We hope to re-sign him, as we look forward to building a better rotation in 2013. Go buy some tickets". But then, I'm having a crappy work week, so maybe I'm just jaded.....really, I think he ends up in Anaheim/LA/whatever they are called. And we'll go "that's all he could get"....That's my prediction too - to the Angels, maybe for a so-so AA starter and Jim Hoey II.
mbents Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 The Braves seem like the most obvious answer.......which is why I say it'll be the Dodgers. Liriano for some projected mid-rotation starter and we'll all be happy with that.
PMKI Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I didn't really feel like making a new thread for this but I guess Perkins is drawing some interest. From Jon Morosi tweeted "Heavy interest in #Twins lefty Glen Perkins. He's been dealing this month, good contract. MIN asking price very high."
James Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I like this idea best but with the promotion of Marte, the Pirates have improved thier OF and leadoff spot. Perhaps the Liriano/Span combo could be dangled to the Rangers or Nationals.I'm hoping that the promotion of Marte causes Cincinnati to overreact and give up many prospects for Span. That or Span stays around. But the overpay would be good too. I think that the Twins would probably get more overall by not packaging Span and Liriano together. But I could be terribly wrong as well.
gunnarthor Old-Timey Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Baltimore for one of their "failed" starters.
Nick Nelson Site Manager Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I didn't really feel like making a new thread for this but I guess Perkins is drawing some interest. From Jon Morosi tweeted "Heavy interest in #Twins lefty Glen Perkins. He's been dealing this month, good contract. MIN asking price very high."No one's off-limits, but it would really suck to give up Perkins. He's a reliever to build around.
gmarais66 Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 To the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters for a hot-hitting shortstop...
Thrylos Old-Timey Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 No one's off-limits, but it would really suck to give up Perkins. He's a reliever to build around.Agreed, and he has been kinda filling the Cuddyer role of team spokesman after Cuddyer left for greener pastures. And the Twins do not have many who has throw as hard as Perk can in the majors. And he is a home town guy. On the other hand, let's play devil's advocate and admit that this team is building up for 2014-5. At that point he will be past his prime and very likely LHPs such as Melotakis (who is PMKI in E-town and Beloit and could be NB-bound next season), Jones (who PMKI as a starter in E-town), C. Williams, J. Gonzalez or Matt Thomsaw could replace him and Duensing can step up meanwhile as the primary LH setup man. If he brings back something like a potential #2 or #3 starter for 2014-15 (which, other than Gibson, I am not sure this team has for that timeframe right now), I would be a no-brainer to trade him in my book. But a very unpopular move. And still I am not sure that the Twins' management forgot some of the issues with Perkins (he sued the team )
70charger Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Liriano goes to Texas because Texas doesn't want to deal with Greinke's mental issues. I suspect Greinke would rather not have to deal with the Texas market. I also think Texas will avoid Greinke because they already have enough trouble riding herd on Josh Hamilton. I think Liriano would benefit greatly pitching under the likes of Nolan Ryan. Because I've a perfect track record with my predictions, I'm quite sure I'm wildly wrong.Yep, you don't want to have to deal with a head case, so you go Liriano. For sure. (Not picking on you, but I found it chuckle-worthy.) Personally I think the Orioles.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Guess I was right the first time, he's not traded for anything of use at all. The Angels are off the market, and TX will now counter by getting Josh Johnson.....
Bark's Lounge Verified Member Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Forgive me for straying out of the Liriano trade returns conversation for a moment. As was rumored last year - maybe the Twins will trade Denard to D.C. for Lombo, Jr. and Drew Storens. I know this will make a lot of the TD participants angry, but they will most definitely convert Storens into a starter. That appears to be the new trend this organization is trying to make fashionable.
Dilligaf69 Verified Member Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Orioles, for one of Arreita, Matusz or Tillman and some B prospects. All of them have been MEH!....and so has Liriano for the most part until recently...is it really an upgrade for them or us??
Pius Jefferson Verified Member Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 Liriano for Gilmartin, Graham and another prospect.
johnnydakota Verified Member Posted July 28, 2012 Posted July 28, 2012 span and either perkin or doumit go to the reds for hamilton , corcino and cingrani
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