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Jeter, Utley, McGwire, Tony Gwynn.

You really don't get this do you? You understand that being outscored by your opponents is bad, being outscored by your opponents over 140 games is very bad. If you are somehow winning or contending for a division with that bad a run differential...that means your team is very very lucky.It's not about career years or whatever garbage you're spewing.

That makes literally no sense. Then you're literally a moron. What the hell is going on here. I don't care if the O's win the World Series or history repeating it'self. This is a simple thing...the O's are contending with luck. They're a better team then a year ago, but in way should a team that's been outscored by 20 runs being contending for a division. If they win it all, good for them, but they're gonna do it on the heels on one of the luckiest teams ever.

I'll take Florimon's defense or Dozier's whatever the hell he offers. I don't think he's ever gonna hit like he showed in the minors and I don't think his defense will ever carry him enough.

So you're saying that basically every team will No, not at all. There's a certain amount of luck that goes into every sport, a fluke play winning a big game etc. Being outscored by 20+ runs and somehow being tied with a team that's outscored its opponents by 92 runs. Well that's the very definition of blind-ass luck

What in the hell are you talking about? Bringing up a few random seasons from the past have no bearing on what's gonna happen in 2013. We don't know what the rosters will look like, the strength of the division, injuries, trades, signings...hell everything. I even said it could happen, but I think it has little to no chance of happening. Who's being negative? If he never would have mentioned the word contend, I would have no problem with the article. If he just would have made an article that said "here's how the O's improved there pitching staff" I wouldn't have said a thing.

Neither of us know what's gonna happen with either teams roster. Maybe Mike Ilitch loses his mind again and signs everyone, who knows what to expect outta the Sox and Kenny WIlliams. The point is I don't see how bringing up 2003, 2009 seasons or current stats has to do with this. Do I think it's impossible...no, but do I see it happen...**** no!!

I've wanted him gone for years...good a time as any to take him out back and Old Yeller the SOB.

Well they've done it multiple times before so, basically, you're wrong. In 2009, the Twins won the AL Central with a 4.50 ERA that ranked 11th in the AL. In 2008, they came one game short of winning the division with a 4.16 ERA that ranked 7th in the AL. In 2003, they won the division handily with a 4.41 ERA that ranked 7th in the AL. Three average (or worse) pitching staffs, three contending teams. And that's just in the last ten years. There are plenty of examples outside of the Twins, too. Well that's fantastic Nick, what the hell does that have to do with a 2013 season that none of us know about yet? What's the Tigers & Sox rosters gonna look like. Who's injuries will play huge factor into the division, can Willingham, Mauer, Morneau, Span and others stay healthy? Who and where are these league average pitchers coming from? That's great that it happened in 2009 and 2003...but what the **** does that have to do with the 2013 season?

1. Yes I would have let the Dodgers have him for nothing. 2. They very well might have to overpay to get some decent arms in here. Bad teams more often then not have to overpay to get talent. 3. I said it's pretty clear that the Twins think they can get some value outta Morneau. I disagree, but if that's the plan you're going with, dont' let teams get the upperhand on you.

No I don't think the Twins would contend for the division with a league average pitching staff.

What the hell do the Pirates have to do with this? Morneau isn't part of the future, he won't be here whenever they contend again. So you ditch that salary so you can play the cheap MLB ready 1B you have. What the hell is so hard to understand about this? I mentioned Greinke and Jackson cause they're arms that could make an impact. Even if the Twins were to sign them both I don't think they sniff 80 wins, I just used the two top arms that will be on the market...my god man.

And if you read my posts you'll see that I said the O's are better then they were a year ago. They made some good moves that made them a better team. But you devoted the first chunk of your article to the O's contending and being in the think of the AL East race, but if they were 68-73 (as they should be) you don't write this article. If you wouldn't have mentioned contending and quick turn arounds then I wouldn't have a problem with it.

And bad teams get better by sheding expensive players when they have a MLB ready kid in the farm system who makes nothing ready to roll. None of us know what JR's strategy is, but it doesn't matter what he wants...the Twins won't compete for atleast a few years. The bottom line is the Twins are one of the worst teams in the league and JR ain't going out to sign Greinke &Jackson to get this team right. Sit back and actually look at this team, cause it's a very very bad baseball team. As for injuries, I know you're not trying to compare Parm's injury history to Morneau.

Then please explain it to me where I'm suppose to be jazzed that Liam Hendriks and BJ ****ing Hermsen are winners of this award. That alone should just make everyone on this board depressed as hell about the future of this club.