Brandon Warne Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Miller was wrong, it's Adam Brett Walker II who was claimed by Milwaukee. Mods, please fix title.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 EDIT: Well, maybe ABW has a chance to get some MLB at bats there. Good luck to him.
Brandon Warne Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 CORRECTION: ADAM BRETT WALKER claimed by Milwaukee.
Steve Lein Twins Daily Contributor Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 You guys mixing up players who use their middle name now?! Haha. That's a very odd mix-up on the right name.
iTwins Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Realistically no place for him on the Twins' roster. It will be interesting to see if Milwaukee can make him stick. That power should be fun to watch in that park...
Homer Hanky Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Twins fan in Milwaukee... I hope to see him hit a few bombs... just when my favorite 9 come to town!
SF Twins Fan Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Was he out of options?
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Was he out of options?No. 3 option years left I think.
Brandon Warne Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 No. 3 option years left I think. Should be two. Used one this year.
Seth Stohs Site Manager Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Walker just told me it is "Bittersweet." It's a good situation for him, I think. It's home, and it's a ballpark that makes sense.
ashbury Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Moderator's note: this is obviously a charged topic. Please understand that the moderators may give closer scrutiny to this thread than average.
DocBauer Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 I know he has his flaws and there are obvious question marks about his future and fit with the young OF and even Granite and Polka, but doesn't this seem a bit sudden?
Minniman Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Walker had options, but the Twins just let him go? Is that right? They just let an asset go for nothing? Was this to clear a roster spot? For who?
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 I wasn't much of a Walker believer, but I'm surprised. I don't like to lose players the team doesn't have to lose. However this move shows real decisiveness by the new front office. They must have already decided that Walker had zero to little chance of helping the team and decided there was no need to draw out the inevitable. Even if he proves Falvey and company wrong down the road, I'm happy that the new leadership isn't wishy-washy.
Shaitan Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 I'm surprised, but his flaws are sizable, so not shocked.
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Huh. I'm surprised that he never got a shot in the majors, but it was clear he wasn't going to make it with all those strikeouts, and the Twins don't need another below average outfielder defensively. I wish him success in Milwaukee.
brvama Provisional Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Like ABW I'm bittersweet about this. However, there didn't seem to be a future here and I'm not sure one could have received much in a swap. It's good for him though and I hope he can find some success in MIL.
Doomtints Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 I'm a little surprised the Twins could not find another team to swap flawed prospects for. Doing that would have still freed up the roster spot, no?
Platoon Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Perhaps a signal that defense will count? That said I wish the Twins had invested a few of those very precious 59 wins in getting a look at him. Lord knows we had the book on Robbie G. And whichever Shaefer we had that week? I am glad he is going to get a shot somewhere else. I always thought it would be pretty disappointing to be a Walker type guy, stuck in the minors. Not wanted, and not traded! Ugh! I know there is a Plouffe thread, but there is a correlation. Players you can't use, won't use, or have a plethora of, but won't trade or waive them. NThis is how you end up with a 40 man roster like we have had for quite awhile.
ashbury Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 I'm a little surprised the Twins could not find another team to swap flawed prospects for. Doing that would have still freed up the roster spot, no?The swap would have to involve players not on the other team's 40-man roster too, if the object is to free up a spot. That's the problem when a prospect gets older: his value drops if he's marginal because he has to count as one of 40 guys you can protect. Apparently* no other team except the Brewers had room to add a guy without giving one right back to the Twins - at least, no one we wanted. So there was no bargaining power for the Twins. * I'm giving the new brain trust credit for not making an "outright" (heh) blunder.
Doomtints Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 The swap would have to involve players not on the other team's 40-man roster too, if the object is to free up a spot. That's the problem when a prospect gets older: his value drops if he's marginal because he has to count as one of 40 guys you can protect. Apparently* no other team except the Brewers had room to add a guy without giving one right back to the Twins - at least, no one we wanted. So there was no bargaining power for the Twins. * I'm giving the new brain trust credit for not making an "outright" (heh) blunder.That's the assumption, yes.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 The swap would have to involve players not on the other team's 40-man roster too, if the object is to free up a spot. That's the problem when a prospect gets older: his value drops if he's marginal because he has to count as one of 40 guys you can protect. Apparently* no other team except the Brewers had room to add a guy without giving one right back to the Twins - at least, no one we wanted. So there was no bargaining power for the Twins. * I'm giving the new brain trust credit for not making an "outright" (heh) blunder. And for all we know the Brewers could still take him off the 40-man later and try to sneak him through waivers, we see that kind of gamesmanship happen all the time.
Bob Sacamento Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Wow, just shows what the new management thought of Walker compared to the other OF prospects in the system. Little surprised they couldn't wrangle up an A ball arm or bat for him but best of luck to him in Milwaukee wonder where they're gonna put him as LF is taken by Braun currently and there is no DH to stash him. Interesting to see him on the same squad as the guy he's often comped to in Chris Carter, don't know if the two can occupy the same lineup together.
Kwak Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 I admire the change in attitude toward marginal players. Ryan would hold on to a guy forever--three (or four if permissible). Then he would (relunctantly) add the player to the 25-man roster, just to have one last look (for a few weeks), then he would waive him hoping he would "slide through" and then outright him to Rochester. This new team makes a decision of "prospect" or "suspect" and if negative--just cuts bait.
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Seems like ABW was removed from the 40 for Palka. I thought there were some players left on the 25/40 who could have made space to keep both Palka and ABW. However I'm fine with the move. I hope ABW gets a good shot in Milwaukee and takes advantage of it.
Monkeypaws Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 Really hate to give him up for nothing. I've been a big fan, but 25 at AAA and 202 Ks make me think that the Brew Crew got Rob Deer 2.0. Like the guy though. I hope the new admin will be more proactive in cutting the losses on prospects by trading at peak value. Have to say, they are off to a good start with reducing redundancies in th organization, even if there is nothing coming back at this point. One thing that gives me pause is that Walker has never repeated a level, yet mashed at league leading levels - would the Ks have dropped as he became more attuned to the pitching? Well, Milwaukee will find out....
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted November 18, 2016 Posted November 18, 2016 There is still a lot of dead weight on the 40 man, so the new guys must feel Walker has no chance of finding a role on the major league roster.
HitInAPinch Verified Member Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 There is still a lot of dead weight on the 40 man, so the new guys must feel Walker has no chance of finding a role on the major league roster.I think it's that and they've got a lot of other things to look at. Spending a lot of time on a trade for Walker, to me, doesn't seem like good time usage.
olivia11 Verified Member Posted November 19, 2016 Posted November 19, 2016 Wow, just shows what the new management thought of Walker compared to the other OF prospects in the system. Little surprised they couldn't wrangle up an A ball arm or bat for him but best of luck to him in Milwaukee wonder where they're gonna put him as LF is taken by Braun currently and there is no DH to stash him. Interesting to see him on the same squad as the guy he's often comped to in Chris Carter, don't know if the two can occupy the same lineup together. Looks like Brewers want him to try 1B. "The Brewers, however, are open to seeing whether he can handle first base, where they face an immediate decision on arbitration-eligible slugger Chris Carter, and a long-term one with no standout prospect at the position." from Milwaukee's MLB site.
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