4 Triple-A Bats Who Deserve a September Audition with the Twins

I think this is exactly who they should call up.  Who to send down?  I'm not sure since they've been hard to watch since we gave up on the season - but I'm sure they can find someone who won't be part of our future.  

12 minutes ago, farmerguychris said:

I think this is exactly who they should call up.  Who to send down?  I'm not sure since they've been hard to watch since we gave up on the season - but I'm sure they can find someone who won't be part of our future.  

This is the challenge with adding any of these guys for the rest of the season. we're only going to get 1 position player with the tiny roster expansion, and the only semi-logical candidates to send out are Julien (who you kind of want to get the same long look at, because if he hits he could still be with the team), Outman (who is getting this kind of look to see if he has any future with the team), and frankly Clemens (who has tottered back down to earth with a poor June and a terrible august sandwiching a good July and an excellent May). Gasper is the backup catcher right now, so you could swap him for Cardenas? But this is also the first time Gasper has gotten more consistent ABs to see what he can do too.

Sabato hasn't earned a shot with the way he's hit in AAA (pretty average for the Int'l League), and until Eeles shows he has some pop back in his swing coming off the injury, it's hard to say he's earned the MLB nod either.

I'd give Fedko the September promotion, and if you want to sell me on swapping Gasper for Cardenas, I could be convinced.

I’d like to see Gabriel Gonzalez, who’s risen all 3 levels this year and Fedko.

Note that the text discussing Eeles mentions Castro.  He is no longer a Twin.

Would love to see any and all of these players for our second Spring Training season here in September.

54 minutes ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

Question, I think that any call up, even September call ups, have to be on the 40 man roster. Is that true? If so, another barrier to someone like Cardenas, Fedko or Gaonzalez, although there's lots of chaff on our 40 man to dump. 

They do. But if you think they will be selected in the Rule 5 draft and want to keep them, they have to go on the 40 man this year anyway. I don't think Fedko would get selected (age). The other two I think would get picked. I agree with @chpettit19 on all of his post.

Unless the Twins already know the player will be on the 40 man roster in November, none should be recalled.

If a player is taken off the 40 man then another team only needs to put the player on their 40 man roster.

If a player is taken in the Rule 5 draft then that player needs to be on their 26 man roster for a year.

22 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

The list of players I wouldn't bat an eye about removing from the 40 man roster is longer than the list of players I would.

I count 32 of the present 42 probably protected. Probably need to protect 4-5 new minor league players and 3-4 free agent signings. They don't have the space to be care free with guys who will not be on the 40 man in November. 

It would be stupid to expose them to other team's 40 man roster for a weeks of MLB in September.

Sorry - just trying to be realistic.  

4 hours ago, DocBauer said:

I've been pretty much beaten to the punch on this, but there are 40 man considerations involved here, not just who we'd like to see, oe who deserves a shot. And yes, I'm fully aware there are a few guys who could easily be removed from said 40 man roster. 

For instance, no matter how much I want to see Eeles up, he doesn't have to be protected, so he might have to wait until ST next year. Currently, Fitzgerald is the only backup at SS, so you probably don't send him down or remove him. But unless the Twins still hold out some sort of hope that Miranda can be fixed, he can't even hit at the AAA level. That's an available 40 man spot for Fedko. They seem to want to give Julien every opportunity to succeed. Whether you agree with that or not, removing him might send him packing.

So it's also up to what the coaches and FO really think about the future of some of these guys, and whether or not they are ready to "give up" on them. 

Fedko remains my #1 choice as there is a very clear path available for him to be the 4th OF next season.

And again, while I think he might need a little more time to work on his HIT tool, I can easily see Cardenas getting a shot at catcher with Gasper going down. 

If fedko needs to work on his hitting , let him work on it with the twins for a month and then send him to the Arizona fall league ...

I'd like to swap Cardenas for Gasper , it can't hurt for a month,  he's got some tools to be a backup catcher  for now and if he shows potential for a month , send him to the AFL ...

What we are likely to see is Pereda until Vazquez returns.

Four triple a bats are in the lineup getting their more than an irregular sample size shot for their future. Martin, Outman. Julian and Gasper

It doesn't matter which borderline players are in the majors getting at bats. With Rocco in charge they aren't consistant at bats with his, platoon/rest/play where you belong/DH/play a secondary position/bat first/bat 4th/bat 9th/get pinch hit for, kind of play that he uses almost every game. What we are finding out is that most all of them do NOT excel with his style and amount of playing time. Heck, even guys like Lewis, Lee, Larnach, Wallner are not excelling with his approach. Bringing in new players for a view isn't going to prove they belong or not when the manager doesn't know how to use them.

With possibly the exception of Cardenas, none of these players have a snowball’s chance in Hades of being an everyday major leaguer.  Sure, give them some Show ABs to reward their effort or for the novelty factor.   Otherwise, a complete snooze fest.  

I'd much rather see all those guys than another month of Julien, Gasper, Outman, and Clemens.  Martin can stay, but he needs to find a seat on the bench.

Now, on the pitching side, I'm just gonna throw up my hands.

Or maybe just throw up.

Fedko has earned a call up, given his fantastic season in AA and AAA. And the team can use a right hand outfield bat. Eeles is a great story, but I think they will opt to bring more pitchers. 

I think it's pretty clear Gasper is not a viable backup catcher for next year, so why not swap him for Cardenas to see if he's an option. We need to know whether we've got a viable #2 catcher in the organization or if we have to sign someone. With our limited budget that money needs to be spent elsewhere. I'd love to see Eeles, I really think he can be our next "Castro" moving around as utility guy. He's the exact type of player that the team is trying to mold their game around. High energy, great contact, high obp, stolen bases, defensive versatility. That said, I don't think we'll see him until next year until he NEEDS to be added to the roster. Fedko is one I'd call up now. Guys like Roden and Outman won't hit enough to be big leaguers and I'm kind of thinking Larnach will be traded or released. Martin can be a decent 4rth outfielder but if Fedko can be a RH power bat in LF, that would lengthen our lineup a lot. Let's see what he can do.  If E Rodriguez is healthy I wouldn't mind seeing him get a shot as well. Time to see what the future holds as we are going to be relying on a lot of youth and inexperience until we come out the other side of this rebuild. Sorry, "re-tooling" lol 😆 . We have a lot of interesting bats coming up through the high minors. It is our pitching that concerns me. We've got all the depth in the world but high end talent has been hard to find 

Emmanuel Rodriguez is healthy again, right? Get him some at-bats in the majors.

19 hours ago, DocBauer said:

I've been pretty much beaten to the punch on this, but there are 40 man considerations involved here, not just who we'd like to see, oe who deserves a shot. And yes, I'm fully aware there are a few guys who could easily be removed from said 40 man roster. 

For instance, no matter how much I want to see Eeles up, he doesn't have to be protected, so he might have to wait until ST next year. Currently, Fitzgerald is the only backup at SS, so you probably don't send him down or remove him. But unless the Twins still hold out some sort of hope that Miranda can be fixed, he can't even hit at the AAA level. That's an available 40 man spot for Fedko. They seem to want to give Julien every opportunity to succeed. Whether you agree with that or not, removing him might send him packing.

So it's also up to what the coaches and FO really think about the future of some of these guys, and whether or not they are ready to "give up" on them. 

Fedko remains my #1 choice as there is a very clear path available for him to be the 4th OF next season.

And again, while I think he might need a little more time to work on his HIT tool, I can easily see Cardenas getting a shot at catcher with Gasper going down. 

Let Julien pack; he would probably drop his suitcases on the way out.

Fedko and Cardenas for sure. Is there an exception if there is a rash of injuries? 

Fedko's swing is very simple.  Small leg kick and quick hands.  I think he has the best chance to have his AAA stats translate to the majors.