Hard to know what the committees will do with relievers. Nathan not having a lengthy postseason record may hurt with that group, but if one of his old teammates or managers get on there to champion his case, then maybe. I think he's worthy; during his prime he was the 2nd best reliever in baseball, behind the guy who was probably the best reliever of all-time. But there are still those who don't think relief pitchers deserve to be in there at all.
Torii was an excellent player, but isn't Hall-worthy. His GG's got...questionable, so him just having a ton of them might not help like people might think. He was very good for a long time, but I don't think he gets any real ascent under the BWAA, and after that he'll have to compete with other CFs that probably should have gotten more attention (Edmonds, Lofton). He's quite literally the epitome of Hall of Very Good.
Santana has the best case; his dominance was massive. Sabathia's admission doesn't help him at all, really: very different pitchers and different cases. Sabathia's has more to do with longevity, Santana's is all about peak value. Personally, I think Johan was inhumanly awesome enough for long enough that it shouldn't matter if he didn't have 3-4 more seasons in his 30's to pile up counting stats...but I'll admit to bias on Johan.
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Hard to know what the committees will do with relievers. Nathan not having a lengthy postseason record may hurt with that group, but if one of his old teammates or managers get on there to champion his case, then maybe. I think he's worthy; during his prime he was the 2nd best reliever in baseball, behind the guy who was probably the best reliever of all-time. But there are still those who don't think relief pitchers deserve to be in there at all.
Torii was an excellent player, but isn't Hall-worthy. His GG's got...questionable, so him just having a ton of them might not help like people might think. He was very good for a long time, but I don't think he gets any real ascent under the BWAA, and after that he'll have to compete with other CFs that probably should have gotten more attention (Edmonds, Lofton). He's quite literally the epitome of Hall of Very Good.
Santana has the best case; his dominance was massive. Sabathia's admission doesn't help him at all, really: very different pitchers and different cases. Sabathia's has more to do with longevity, Santana's is all about peak value. Personally, I think Johan was inhumanly awesome enough for long enough that it shouldn't matter if he didn't have 3-4 more seasons in his 30's to pile up counting stats...but I'll admit to bias on Johan.
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