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4 hours ago, Minny505 said:

I admit, I was on the fence about this trade, leaning toward a good one for the Twins.

Now though, I love it. Lopez has been so much better than expected. I thought the Twins were getting a #3, but they might have gotten an ace...a true ACE. 

Why do you think he did not get named to the ASG? 

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On 7/7/2023 at 10:54 AM, chpettit19 said:

Losing Arraez (Tony Gwynn 2.0 as I like to call him) will always, and forever, make me sad. Lopez wasn't the guy I wanted back in the trade either. But I'm willing to bet any amount of money you want that Arraez doesn't hit .400 this year, or any other year, and Lopez looks much better than I thought he'd be. Luis topped out at .355 on July 9th last year and went downhill from there. He's started to dip a little in Miami this year. Will be fun to see where he ends up at the end of the year.  I'd bet he ends up higher than .316, but I'm quite certain it's going to be below .400.

This trade has the chance to be both incredibly depressing incredibly joyful. Will be fun to track the remainder of these guys' careers. Right now it's looking pretty even to me, because I don't think Luis Arraez is actually going to hit .400.

I thought the Twins should have insisted on Lopez + Alcantara (even though he's having a down year) or Lopez + Luzardo and made it a bigger deal.  OBVIOUSLY, they (Twins) would have added extra pieces to make it happen (assuming Miami was even open to such a possibility), but still.  Arraez was more valuable than I think some of us realized and we are seeing it this season as clear as night and day and there's no doubt they miss his offensive spark.

That said, Arraez alone would not have saved this team from it's offensive woes so far this season.  The entire lineup has underperformed, BADLY.  It's really disappointing.  I'm not sure where they go from here either.  

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30 minutes ago, laloesch said:

I thought the Twins should have insisted on Lopez + Alcantara (even though he's having a down year) or Lopez + Luzardo and made it a bigger deal.  OBVIOUSLY, they (Twins) would have added extra pieces to make it happen (assuming Miami was even open to such a possibility), but still.  Arraez was more valuable than I think some of us realized and we are seeing it this season as clear as night and day and there's no doubt they miss his offensive spark.

That said, Arraez alone would not have saved this team from it's offensive woes so far this season.  The entire lineup has underperformed, BADLY.  It's really disappointing.  I'm not sure where they go from here either.  

I think there was a 0% chance the Marlins were trading the reigning Cy Young winner. And I'm not even sure what they would've done with another starter. They already had to start Ober in AAA this year. You may have been someone who didn't trust Mahle or Maeda, but they weren't going to take away their rotation spots before the year even started whether fans wanted it or not.

Completely agree that Arraez alone would not have saved this offense. If Correa was hitting to career norms, and Buxton could play CF (opening the DH spot), and Polanco were healthy and his usual self offensively this offense would look way better, even without Arraez. Arraez would be a nice addition to that trio, but just having that trio doing what they're capable of would have people bemoaning Arraez far less. I'm also not sure how they fix this in the near term. I do know that running the same 13 position players out there isn't the answer, though.

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On 7/7/2023 at 9:48 AM, Jocko87 said:

See, the thing about satire is

... that it's not appropriate or very funny when the opinions you're satirizing are blatantly correct? FTFY
 
I fully understand it's supposed to be satire. But it's satirizing the wrong side. 
 
EDIT - Maybe I've been on Twins Reddit too much, but most of Twins nation will die on the hill that Twins can do-no-wrong. IMO that's what is satire worthy, not being able to actually acknowledge that they flubbed the trade...

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8 hours ago, The_Phantom said:

... that it's not appropriate or very funny when the opinions you're satirizing are blatantly correct? FTFY
 
I fully understand it's supposed to be satire. But it's satirizing the wrong side. 
 
EDIT - Maybe I've been on Twins Reddit too much, but most of Twins nation will die on the hill that Twins can do-no-wrong. IMO that's what is satire worthy, not being able to actually acknowledge that they flubbed the trade...

Wait, you see yourself in the fictional character portrayed in the article?

Hint: the writer wasn't satirizing either "side" of the trade itself.

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