Game Thread Twins @ Padres 7/30/22 6:15 PM Come To Jesus Time

[mrtwinsfan]

And  a.j.  as color man,  very enjoyable !!!!

[Squirrel]

5 minutes ago, ashbury said:

Oh don't do that.  You'll just end up banning people.

 

Did it work???

[tony&rodney]

Gotta say that the old way to look was: 1) What is the deal at the AllStar Game; 2) Finally check the standings on August 1; and 3) What does the schedule look like in the last two months.

The Twins have a good team that surely needs at least a couple of pitchers but they are going to be in first place on August 1. That is huge. September might be a tough row but August seems doable. 

Despite wanting Falvey to do something big before the trade deadline, I'm a happy Twins fan because the team is interesting and winning enough right now.

[USAFChief]

I like that we won.

But

This is just incredibly stupid: we had our nr 1 starter on the mound, he gave up 1 run and threw only 79 pitches, yet he's out after 5, leading to using 5 relievers, including frigging Duran in the 8th inning with a 6 run lead.

I've defended Rocco's pitcher usage, but this is insane.

[rickybeathard]

4 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

I like that we won.

 

This is just incredibly stupid: we had our nr 1 starter on the mound, he gave up 1 run and threw only 79 pitches, yet he's out after 5, leading to using 5 relievers, including frigging Duran in the 8th inning with a 6 run lead.

I've defended Rocco's pitcher usage, but this is insane.

I'd be interested in any stats that suggest that Duran's effectiveness decreases after back to back games. I don't have anything to base this on, but I feel like Duran has played in back to back games a lot this year... and I wonder what type of impact that has had on him. 

I also think your spot on, regarding Gray... and really the only thing I can think of is that he has had some bad games this year. I don't think they trust any starter. But you have to take pressure off your bullpen at some point, and the best way to do that is allow your SPs to pitch later into the game. 

[jkcarew]

5 minutes ago, mrtwinsfan said:

And  a.j.  as color man,  very enjoyable !!!!

I”ll take Legendary Twins Catchers for 500, Alex.

And the answer is…The only Minnesota Twins catcher in the 21st century to win a playoff series.

[gil4]

7 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

I've defended Rocco's pitcher usage, but this is insane.

You're right - defending his pitcher usage is insane.

[ashbury]

14 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

I like that we won.

But

This is just incredibly stupid: we had our nr 1 starter on the mound, he gave up 1 run and threw only 79 pitches, yet he's out after 5, leading to using 5 relievers, including frigging Duran in the 8th inning with a 6 run lead.

I've defended Rocco's pitcher usage, but this is insane.

Rocco was playing the long game there.

Duffey, in to pitch the ninth with a reasonably safe lead.  He gets into his usual antics, walking a #8 hitter and plunking the #9.  HR predictably comes next.  No worries.  He gets the next two guys out.

Pitch count 28.  Unavailable to mess up tomorrow's game.

Rocco's playing chess while you're busy playing checkers.

[jkcarew]

9 minutes ago, USAFChief said:

I like that we won.

But

This is just incredibly stupid: we had our nr 1 starter on the mound, he gave up 1 run and threw only 79 pitches, yet he's out after 5, leading to using 5 relievers, including frigging Duran in the 8th inning with a 6 run lead.

I've defended Rocco's pitcher usage, but this is insane.

Had EVERY intention of using Duran for two innings, and then someone talked him off the ledge heading into the 9th.

He’s had all these days off sandwiched around a couple of blow outs. He had his mind made up before the game what he was going to do…and by god he did it. Never mind the game as it evolved.

He is what he is.

[mnfireman]

14 minutes ago, rickybeathard said:

I'd be interested in any stats that suggest that Duran's effectiveness decreases after back to back games. I don't have anything to base this on, but I feel like Duran has played in back to back games a lot this year... and I wonder what type of impact that has had on him. 

I also think your spot on, regarding Gray... and really the only thing I can think of is that he has had some bad games this year. I don't think they trust any starter. But you have to take pressure off your bullpen at some point, and the best way to do that is allow your SPs to pitch later into the game. 

Duran has only pitched on consecutive days twice, 1 inning each time. A perfect 1,2,3 inning against Cleveland on May 14, and a 4 batter outing on July 10 where he gave up a HR in the 8th inning of a 6-5 win.

[ashbury]

23 minutes ago, rickybeathard said:

I'd be interested in any stats that suggest that Duran's effectiveness decreases after back to back games.

Because I prefer self-serve, and baseball-reference.com is an immense buffet table, let me offer this tip.  Each player has a "game log" for each season.  Here is Duran's:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=duranjh01&t=p&year=2022

Locate the DR column, which stands for Days Rest, and click on it, and it will sort the list.  You can then quickly determine* that there were two such days (as a fellow poster kindly reported).  You'll learn also that he's been practically immaculate with 1 day rest, and for some crazy Small Sample Size reason has gotten himself in trouble with 3 days rest.

Hope, as they say, this helps.

 

*  You could also just scan the column visually, but risk missing one of the instances you might care about.

[Mike Sixel]

I came to see if the thread got better, given they won. But all I see is more complaining. This site has really gone downhill in terms of logic and fun. 

[rickybeathard]

1 hour ago, ashbury said:

Because I prefer self-serve, and baseball-reference.com is an immense buffet table, let me offer this tip.  Each player has a "game log" for each season.  Here is Duran's:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=duranjh01&t=p&year=2022

Locate the DR column, which stands for Days Rest, and click on it, and it will sort the list.  You can then quickly determine* that there were two such days (as a fellow poster kindly reported).  You'll learn also that he's been practically immaculate with 1 day rest, and for some crazy Small Sample Size reason has gotten himself in trouble with 3 days rest.

Hope, as they say, this helps.

 

*  You could also just scan the column visually, but risk missing one of the instances you might care about.

 

Awesome thanks!