Trade Deadline News

[Mike Sixel]

No idea who this guy is, but I just saw a "nationals and marlins close to deal on Soto" Tweet......that would be huge, and indicate the Twins aren't getting a pitcher from Miami, I'd think.

[James]

19 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

No idea who this guy is, but I just saw a "nationals and marlins close to deal on Soto" Tweet......that would be huge, and indicate the Twins aren't getting a pitcher from Miami, I'd think.

I just saw a tweet from Hector Gomez that said the "Cardinals are intensifying pursuing on Juan Soto.  They have been much more aggressive of late in their trade proposals".  -1:56 PM ?‍♂️

 

 

[Danchat]

I am very confused by the Brewers shipping out Hader now... if they were going to move him, why not do it a year ago when the return would have been bigger? Now they're going into their playoff run without their stud closer? I get that Rogers and Lamet have high rebound value... but I wouldn't be happy to be a Brewers fan.

[clone52]

12 minutes ago, Danchat said:

I am very confused by the Brewers shipping out Hader now... if they were going to move him, why not do it a year ago when the return would have been bigger? Now they're going into their playoff run without their stud closer? I get that Rogers and Lamet have high rebound value... but I wouldn't be happy to be a Brewers fan.

Might be a very astute deal for them.  They won't keep Hader after this year.  Rogers probably bounces back and gives them a great 2 months.  I know nothing about Lamet, but internally, Devin Williams is ready to take over as closer and Boxburger, Miner and Gustave have been really good.  

[Vanimal46]

Where Frankie? On his way to the Yankees. 

 

[bighat]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

Where Frankie? On his way to the Yankees. 

 

Nice haul for the Yanks. Ooof, gonna be tough to beat.

[nicksaviking]

I hope Montas stinks it up in New York.

I didn't want, nor did I think the Twins could get Montas. I did like the idea of getting Travino though.

[Vanimal46]

 

[Vanimal46]

Trey Mancini traded to Houston. 

[Danchat]

So the Yankees have landed Benintendi, Effress, Montas, and Trivino... yikes. Can't remember the last time one team was far and away this much better than all of the others... but if they fall short of a World Series, it will be delicious.

Also, that return feels light for Montas... just a #5 & #10 prospect plus a couple of throw-ins?

[nicksaviking]

12 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

 

Seems like the Reds did better for Castillo. That doesn't sound too impressive and easily beatable.

I mean not by the Twins. The Yankees gave up two strong MLB ready AAA pitchers. Kind of thinking the A's had little interest in Aaron Sanchez.

 

[nicksaviking]

Between the Reds big win in the Castillo trade, and what appears to be an underwhelming Montas return, I kind of suspect the Reds will expect too much for Mahle and he'll end up sticking around.

On the other hand, the A's do tend to walk to the beat of their own drum. This certainly could have been a case where other teams had offers out that the industry would have considered superior but the A's just liked these Yankee players better.

[Vanimal46]

 

[KirbyDome89]

19 minutes ago, Danchat said:

So the Yankees have landed Benintendi, Effress, Montas, and Trivino... yikes. Can't remember the last time one team was far and away this much better than all of the others... but if they fall short of a World Series, it will be delicious.

Also, that return feels light for Montas... just a #5 & #10 prospect plus a couple of throw-ins?

I still think Houston can give them a run. 

Yeah I don't pretend to follow prospect rankings much but from the numbers being thrown around it doesn't sound like a haul. 

[KirbyDome89]

Just now, Vanimal46 said:

 

It'll fly under the radar with Montas being moved but Mancini is a great get for Houston. 

Also, wtf is Baltimore doing? I get that they're in the East, but they're 3 games back of the WC spot and 2 of the 5 teams in front of them are division opponents. They've been bad for so long, why not just do the fans a minor service and at least see what happens in the second half?

[LA Vikes Fan]

Well, I'm not sure that's a return the Twins can match for Montas. Our #5, #10, #20, 1nd #21 prospects are something like Canterino (good prospect, but hurt and may be destined for the bullpen), Bryan Medina (rookie leaguer), Alerick Soularie (23, A+ ball), and  Marco Raya (19, A ball). Not 2 high minors ready to try the Show pitchers plus two farther out well regarded guys. Even if you try for better high minors guys at around the same level on the list you get Wallner (#8), Henriquez (#11), Strotman (#16), Steer (#7), Balazovic (#3, but hurt yet again), and Palacios (#26).  These guys just aren't as good/projectible as the guys Oakland got from the Yankees. 

That in a nutshell is the rub. We just don't have many well regarded guys at the AAA or even AA level to trade, and NONE of them are pitchers. All of the pitching is either hurt or under performing.  All of the "real" pitching prospects are at the A+ or lower levels or in the case of Balazovic or SWR, are hurt.  Our best prospects are either in MLB and hurt or hopefully untouchable in trade like Miranda or Ryan. What we do have to trade is non-SS hitters like Steer, Wallner, CES, Martin, Urbina, etc. or "meh but could improve" MLB backups like Celestino and Gordon. And that type of player simply isn't worth as much as MLB ready or close to ready high upside pitching. 

We can't get guys like Castillo or Montas this year because we can't compete - we don't have the prospects to trade. Neither guy was worth Miranda or Lewis to me and Larnach and Kirilloff are both of questionable value right now, especially Kirilloff. I really hope we are trying to pry Snell or Lopez (either the Oriole or Marlin) loose. That's the pond in which we can fish with the bait we have. 

[Danchat]

9 minutes ago, KirbyDome89 said:

It'll fly under the radar with Montas being moved but Mancini is a great get for Houston. 

Also, wtf is Baltimore doing? I get that they're in the East, but they're 3 games back of the WC spot and 2 of the 5 teams in front of them are division opponents. They've been bad for so long, why not just do the fans a minor service and at least see what happens in the second half?

Agreed, isn't he a fan favorite? Now there's an extra playoff spot and they're giving up when they're close to getting in? Haven't they traded enough pieces away at the deadline in years past?

[Vanimal46]

 

[Mike Sixel]

Astros and Yankees trying to make sure no one catches them in the playoffs. Good for them and their fans.

[Vanimal46]

Good for Austin Riley. Cashing in on his breakout year. 

[Vanimal46]

 

#HugWatch. It would be a total Rockies move to extend a 37 year old closer and trade away Kris Bryant…

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

 

#HugWatch. It would be a total Rockies move to extend a 37 year old closer and trade away Kris Bryant…

If anyone takes that contract, the Rockies should be very grateful (but ya, wtaf on extending Bard?).

[Vanimal46]

Just now, Mike Sixel said:

If anyone takes that contract, the Rockies should be very grateful (but ya, wtaf on extending Bard?).

For 2/$19 too. Anytime you have a chance to double down on a 37 year old having a career 1/2 year, you take it according to Rockies FO. 

[Vanimal46]

 

[nicksaviking]

18 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

 

#HugWatch. It would be a total Rockies move to extend a 37 year old closer and trade away Kris Bryant…

I think he’s injured. He was iffy for my fantasy league this morning anyhow,

But yeah, that does sound like a move the inept Rockies would make.

I mean, if they found a taker, that clubs is even more inept I guess.

[Vanimal46]

The Red Sox continue to trade. They acquire White Sox C Reese McGuire

[Otto von Ballpark]

1 minute ago, Vanimal46 said:

The Red Sox continue to trade. They acquire White Sox C Reese McGuire

Addition by subtraction for the White Sox?

[cmoss84]

1 hour ago, Vanimal46 said:

 

This would have been such a valuable, affordable deal for us. Bummer! 

[cmoss84]

44 minutes ago, Otto von Ballpark said:

Addition by subtraction for the White Sox?

White Sox got Diekman for him. Great trade. 

[KirbyDome89]

Fantasy draft season is upon us; that Red Sox clubhouse better have a solid league manager....