Breaking Down the Twins Signing Carlos Correa

[wabene]

10 hours ago, TopGunn#22 said:

Here's the trade I just posted on MLB Trade Values:

Twins Get:  Montas 39.6   Sean Manaea 14.1 Lou Trivino 1.10  Total  54.80

A's Get:  Arraez  27.9   Larnach  22.6  Cavaco  3.0  Simeon Woods-Richardson  5.4  Total Value  58.90

The Twins over pay, but it's necessary to make this final step to remake the roster for 2022 and beyond.  

Starting Rotation:  Montas, Gray, Manaea, Ryan, Ober.   Taylor Rogers and Trivino now close and hold down the 8th inning.  Duffy and Alcala are 7th-8th inning guys.  Pretty solid team, and we have the trade capital to make this happen with Oakland.  

If SWR gets traded again his agent better insist on payment for therapy services.

[KBJ1]

Indeed an "unlike the Twins" move.

It's great and all, but will not amount to anything without better pitching.

Correa could hit 300 with 30 HR and win the MVP award but it won't matter if you lose 80 games 9-7.

If we can acquire Montas and Manea, we might have a shot. 

[Johnny Ringo]

We can't seem to beat the Yankees on the field but we just beat them like a rented mule here. Almost surely Correa will opt out next year but who cares? This game is year to year as we all know. This is an audacious and great move by Falvine. I said in an early post, we should wait to judge the FO once the dust had settled. I think the dust is still swirling a bit

[Unwinder]

I really want to tale a step back here and appreciate how good these moves are for growing the game in Minnesota. The Twins extended a homegrown superstar and have now signed another superstar THE DAY AFTER ANNOUNCING $5 STUDENT TICKETS FOR ALL WEEKDAY GAMES.

[Fatbat]

14 hours ago, jmlease1 said:

Correa is a fantastic fit for the Twins. He's an impact player on offense who hits lefties & righties, home or away and provides 20 hr pop at a position where power is harder to find...and does it while not being a K-machine. An average season by him at the plate is an excellent one, the kind of performance the twins haven't gotten...ever? His defense is elite and he makes the routine plays and the spectacular ones. He's a complete player and fills the hole wonderfully.

I'll be interested to see where he hits in this lineup; I'm guessing he might land 3rd? Maybe it goes:

• Buxton
• Polanco
• Correa
• Kirilloff
• Sano
• Kepler
• Miranda
• Arraez
• Jeffers

That looks pretty fun!

Arraez batting 8 or 9 isn’t going to happen.

[Monkeypaws]

Correa is, as far as I can tell, only the 4th Carlos ever to play for the Twins.

Carlos Gomez of course, Carlos Silva, and if you remember 1994 or 2003-4, Carlos Pulido.

The Senators also only had 3, including Camilo Pascual's less successful smaller, older brother Carlos.

 

[Johnny Ringo]

1 hour ago, Unwinder said:

I really want to tale a step back here and appreciate how good these moves are for growing the game in Minnesota. The Twins extended a homegrown superstar and have now signed another superstar THE DAY AFTER ANNOUNCING $5 STUDENT TICKETS FOR ALL WEEKDAY GAMES.

I am a student of human nature. Does that count? 

[Unwinder]

2 minutes ago, Johnny Ringo said:

I am a student of human nature. Does that count? 

I think I read in another thread that they don't card you or anything if you buy them online, so as far as I know, sure.

[stringer bell]

What I like about this contract is that Correa should be expected to perform at the highest level for the whole thing, no declining years figured into a long-term contract. What I don't like is that he can walk after a single season, but walk years are often the most productive in a player's career. 

[jmlease1]

10 hours ago, Fatbat said:

Arraez batting 8 or 9 isn’t going to happen.

Why not? unless you start stacking lefty hitters in your lineup (which leaves you vulnerable to relievers in later innings) he's going to either have to be in the top two or towards the bottom, unless you think he should be in the heart of the order? His lack of power seems to cut against him batting 4th-5th, and his bad knees and lack of speed maybe don't make him the best choice to lead off. I suppose you could swap him and Kepler in my proposed order, but I'm not sure it makes that much difference. We're likely to start 4 RH, 4 LH, and one switch hitter in the lineup, so alternating guys makes a fair amount of sense. No breaks in the lineup, and Arraez gets to hit in front of someone with a decent amount of pop in Jeffers this way.

[Trov]

On 3/19/2022 at 7:22 AM, The Mad King said:

Did Falvine really just play the Yankees like that? Planned? Or just odd luck...

I bet if the Yankees thought they could get Correa for this kind of deal they would have done that and not traded with Twins.  

[Trov]

Was not on computer yesterday, but when I woke up and checked phone to see the deal I was shocked.  I kept checking to see the Story deal happen, but I am much happier with this deal.  Sure, odds are it is a 1 year deal unless Correa has down year or injury year.  However, it gives us the best player in FA this year, something no one ever thought they would say about Twins.  

Also, who knows, maybe just maybe he will like it hear and fine with earning 35 mil for a couple more years before testing FA again.  I doubt that as he wanted something better than what Seager earned.  If both he and Buxton can stay healthy, there is little reason we should not make playoffs.  I have doubt that Buxton will, but Correa did last year.  I know many will say but we still need pitching, which maybe we do, or maybe even if we do not make a trade the young guys will get it done.  

With this signing, we basically traded Garver and Donaldson for Correa, for at least 1 year, and I am okay with that.  I fully expect a trade with Oakland in coming days, just not sure who they will be giving up. 

[Fatbat]

On 3/20/2022 at 9:27 AM, jmlease1 said:

Why not? unless you start stacking lefty hitters in your lineup (which leaves you vulnerable to relievers in later innings) he's going to either have to be in the top two or towards the bottom, unless you think he should be in the heart of the order? His lack of power seems to cut against him batting 4th-5th, and his bad knees and lack of speed maybe don't make him the best choice to lead off. I suppose you could swap him and Kepler in my proposed order, but I'm not sure it makes that much difference. We're likely to start 4 RH, 4 LH, and one switch hitter in the lineup, so alternating guys makes a fair amount of sense. No breaks in the lineup, and Arraez gets to hit in front of someone with a decent amount of pop in Jeffers this way.

I’d bat Arraez at 1, 2 or 6 but thats just me.