Johnny Ringo

That's your takeaway of what Harvey was known for?

Don't fear.

That's where we differ. I don't care for anyone guilty of sexual assault, regardless of their balance sheet.

OMG, yeah Hollywood money is virtuous and good and earned through art, not like that nasty banking stuff. Bill Pohlad does have his name on a few pictures, but Harvey Weinstein has his name on many, many more.

If anyone wants to say the Pohlads have been bad owners and have been ridiculously cheap and cruelly indifferent to the fans, I will buy the beer. But this is just innuendo spaghetti thrown at the wall, rife with factual errors.

I am sorry that we disagree. There are a number of problems with this article. Do you want to move on next to this one? "As one article noted, “None of the profits that Pohlad had accumulated over the years from [NWA’s parent company]'s relationship with NWA were to be considered in the bankruptcy process.” On the long list of people who lost money when Northwest passed through bankruptcy, you won't find Pohlad. " Problems: --Misstates what Pohlad actually owned (not NWA's parent company) ; --Uses a website called Against the Current as a definitive source: --Lacks understanding of the bankruptcy code and the guard rails of fraudulent transfer and undue enrichment. There is no evidence that Pohlad received preferential treatment in this bankruptcy. There are about ten more turkeys in this article. I am not about defending the Pohalds. But even unpopular owners deserve facts.

Saying that all bankers and rich people are evil is as ignorant as saying that all (fill in the race or religion) are (fill in disgusting pejorative). That point of view is utterly hypocritical. I am sure that you would decry racism or sexism but you embrace classism like an old friend. If you don't understand that contradiction, I don't know what to say.

" Pohlad had arranged a deal in 1989 to sell the Twins to baseball commissioner Peter V. Ueberroth for $464 million, but Lorenzo pushed back and killed the deal." Selling the Twins in 1989 for $464 million would be a nice piece of business. Is there no editorial oversight at Twins Daily? Not only is this piece an assault on facts (the line above is clearly wrong) and the English language, it lacks even a rudimentary understanding of finance and the bankruptcy code. I am not defending the Pohalds in any sense. But Mr. Labuza is way over his skis here. He had a similar problem when he wrote about the Bally bankruptcy. He seems to think he understands things that he clearly doesn't. I spent years in the bankruptcy space and this is like a doctor watching Doogie Howser operate on a patient. He is using a rubber chicken rather than a scalpel. Do these articles have anything to do with the Twins or baseball? Not really. Maybe they should find their way to I Hate Bankers Daily or I Hate Rich Guys Daily. I am sure the readership is much bigger there.

Royce is serially injured, seems to have an attitude problem and has no defensive position. He was drafted as an athlete but has bulked up into a physically (and seemingly, mentally) inflexible whiff machine. Further, the last thing ownership wants to do, as they look to sell, is saddle themselves with anything that looks vaguely like this contract. The Pohlads wouldn't do it in a million years and from a pure baseball perspective, I don't blame them.

In response to this likelihood, I have adapted the lyrics to Dave Loggins' immortal 1974 hit. Please come to Ft Myers for the spring time I'm stayin' here with some friends and they've got lots of room You can pitch in the snow in April And you’ll be payin’ Walz’s taxes soon Please join the chaos He said "No, would you come home to that?"

I haven't listened to the podcast and I am not sure that I will because listening to 40 minutes of shilling for the Patreon in an hour podcast is honestly kind of rough, (But the Pohlads are shameless money grubbers, right?) John and Aaron don't believe that baseball teams should be run like real businesses and so maybe they think they shouldn't be sold like real businesses either. Let's sack those nasty investment bankers and bring in those fairies with pixie dust that allow increasingly sanctimonious podcasters to ignore a complete loss of television revenue. Their reality is much more pleasant. The truth is baseball is going through a revenue crisis triggered by the implosion of the regional sports network model. But that is a subject for another day. In the real world, the DSP/Falvey timing is not odd at all for a variety of reasons. This move somewhat improves the 2025 income statement for the Twins as the new GM and Falvey are cheaper than DSP/Falvey and Levine. I am guessing that statement is pretty red right now. Standard window dressing in a sale. (Explains the Levine thing too.) DSP is a Pohlad guy who would not survive new ownership. (Falvey shouldn't either but I digress.) But also and maybe importantly, the MLB office may have strongly urged or even insisted that ownership now have a front guy and the team have one and they aren't the same . Time to pick jerseys! This practice is common in a sale process because those two parties may have conflicts of interest over the course of the transaction. I have no inside information here, just experience in these matters. I have not consulted with the fairies on my theories. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Moneyball is a truly great movie. I sometimes vacillate in my view that it is one of the five best baseball movies of all-time and a movie not really about baseball at all, but about the universal struggle of decent people slugging it out in an unfair and uncaring world. In any case, its the first film where I thought, "Damn. Brad Pitt can really act." Little Big League and Back to the Minors are lightweight and inoffensive fare I guess but they are noteworthy in that the Twins allowed themselves to look like great fools for what you presume was only a few dollars. So in that sense, they can be seen as haunting and as a harbinger for the next twenty years.

From what I hear, Max is already in the HOF with the ladies.

I appreciate the comments sincerely. But I think the implications of this article are far more insidious than Joe Blow stinks at the plate.

Let me premise this query to our moderator with a statement to all others: I carry no water for ownership. I don't think they are great owners, probably not even good owners but they aren't the devil either. Now the question: is it the view of TD and the moderator that the inflammatory title of this article, the contents of it and a prominent display of a photo of one of the owners does not qualify as a personal attack? It is a serious question. Note to the TD writer: you might want to read Animal Farm by George Orwell. Just a thought.

Rocco flatly had a horrible year. I can't tell you how many times I would chirp at the television over inexplicable moves, even when they seem to be dedicated by math and I questioned the math. Example: pitch hitting early in the game to take advantage of "handedness" which is one input into a multi-variable consideration. That advantage often disappears with that at-bat and you are left with the rest of the game. Other times, math seemed to be his master without absolutely no feel for the game. 80 pitches, 1 hit and a taxed pen? Here comes Rocco. As a game strategist, he was a disaster. But, worse yet, I think he lost the locker room. Calling the players publicly "unprofessional" after blowing a couple of games with bad decisions? Really? Do we really think Correa, the bright, mature, reputation-obsessed veteran he is, would have lambasted Lewis if he thought Rocco was handling business? I certainly don't. Rocco was kept, I would guess because Falvey has control over him. Do you really think Terry Francona cares what Falvey thinks? Chuckle along with me. And then there is the money. Everything ownership does comes down to money. So you can say this may inevitable, but the right call? Please take an Uber home.

I defy anyone to listen to any other MLB team's radio calls and conclude that Atteberry and Gladden are even vaguely competent. If you listen to the Mets' or Giants' broadcasters and then endure "Dazzle" it is the difference between hearing Pavarotti and me sing. Here is a way for the Twins to upgrade the fan experience that costs them nothing (I am not sure they are interested in the former but definitely the latter); clean this house. Sidenote: What 67 year old man refers to himself as Dazzle ? Dude, that is just strange.

The headline could of read The Twins Vow Not to Reduce Payroll Further (because they can't unless their lawyers can get them out of four bad contracts.) There is just no getting around the old minimum wage, Mortimer.

The Twins right now look a team where all nine guys in the field want to tell the opposing batter which pitch is coming. The rumors that won't die internally are that DSP is being Bremered and Falvey will get the big chair, while Rocco is available to seek other opportunities. No one please despair for Dave. At One Twins Way, these things come with fancy offices and fancier titles attached. I would find those outcomes to be a bit cruel and ironic. People want to pin this season on (in this order) the "cheap" Pohlads and Rocco. The front office takes very little heat. The players take none. I am not sure that I would flip that order but pretty close. This team has a heart that only an investment banker could love. Ownership seems to love the FO. That is a complete head scratcher to me. In my book, they had a flatly awful season. But you know kids, sometimes love can't be explained. I hear my wives' friends whisper that all the time.

C'mon folks. We gotta laugh about this one. Cheers,

Dear Doctor, With all respect to your learned degree, everyone you mention (if you count Lewis in games played) is a rookie. This is what rookies do. If they didn't have things to work on, they wouldn't be rookies. Rocco isn't the best but he ain't the worst. He is squarely in the middle. He has to work with what he has. Ultimately, this season rests on the FO. Clearly they were given a tight budget and they squandered it by keeping Kepler and Farmer. That was a head scratcher at the time and infuriating now. If their $18 million had been spent on the bullpen, this board would be chirping about where their playoff seats are. But its a beautiful day, the Vikes are 2-0 and my dog still loves me. We will get 'em next year.

Thanks for the comments. I still like the romance and nostalgia of listening to baseball on the radio and so I listen to a lot of other teams' broadcasts. I defy anyone to listen to any of them and conclude that Gladden is good at his job. He won't tell you the score or who is on base but you will know what Jack Morris ate for lunch in 1991. His disdain for modern players and modern thoughts for the game are always bubbling on the surface. It seems like a bad parody of a town team broadcaster. Provus is smart and has some chops but he has clearly been told or he has inferred that he can only talk about the sunny side of the street when discussing the team. Of course, this is ridiculous and frankly insulting as the club has traveled down this cloudy road. The Twins/BSN may believe that honesty is the best policy but they also seem to demand that it is not an acceptable one.

I am so sullen over the unfolding collapse of the team that this media stuff seems like small potatoes. But as long as I am bumming out, in this department, they are a complete mess. They have the two worst broadcast teams in baseball. This problem is particularly acute on the radio side where they are unlistenable. They must know how dreadful Gladden is, but they keep sending him up to the plate. Can anyone explain why he always says "Good evening everyone" when he takes over the play-by-play in the fourth inning even though he has already incessantly babbled during the first three? For amusement, my sons and I sometimes lapse into Gladden-speak. This includes disputing the significance of any number no matter its validity and also dropping all "g's" from verbs. An example of a good compound sentence in Gladden-speak is "That speed limit don't mean nothin' " On the television front, Justin Morneau seems a fine fellow but he it just getting worse for talking way too much and saying very little. Provus has been shot full of BSN Kool-Aid. The good news is that because of the Twins broadcast deals, very few people have had to watch them. Their global strategy at One Twins Way seems to be "we don't get rid of anybody" (Rocco is hoping that I am right) and "maybe if we close our eyes, it will get better". But perhaps an extension of all that is the observation that when it comes to TV and streaming, DSP et al appear to be 1995 (cable) guys solving a 2024 problem. I hate to tell you boys, but cable is dead. It left no notes.

What a ridiculously sorry franchise. They haven’t won a World Series since 2005. Can you believe that?

Royce's declaration of not doing slumps shows a lack of humility, judgement and any understanding of the immutable cruelties of the game. He put a target on his own back and other players (including probably a few of his teammates) are likely delighted at his struggles. The "grind" grumblings just seem like more of the same. I am a Rocco neutralist but he has had a brutal month too. If managers had a batting average, he would have posted about a .175. He also appears to lack self-awareness about that. He has been dismissive and defensive when questioned about it. In a tougher media town, he would have been skewered. I love the Twins but golly, they are making that hard.