John Bonnes Site Manager Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Would the Cleveland Indians, who currently hold the last Wild Card spot and are just five games behind the Twins, really trade away their ace pitcher Trevor Bauer at the trade deadline? Based on a conversation with Indians GM Zack Meisel … maybe? Meisel seems to be taking a pretty big picture view of Cleveland’s competitive window, with an eye at wedging it open regardless of cost.This offseason the Indians cut substantial payroll and discussed trading Bauer or fellow ace Cory Kluber to bolster their club in other areas. When the GM talks about “future sustainability” and a “continuation of the offseason plan” it suggests he is trying to walk a tightrope. We still haven’t heard of any ace pitchers (short of Madison Bumgarner, if you still consider him one) definitively being available, so it’s possible trading Bauer could net the Indians a little help this year and some prospects for future years. It’s also possible that the Cleveland could backfill his spot with a capable, if inferior, arm for a lot less and count on Kluber coming back to lead the rotation. Bauer (3.65 ERA, 160K in 138 IP) is probably one of the top five pitchers in the American League, and he’s under team control for 2020, though arbitration will probably cost that team around $20M. The Twins would certainly be interested in those numbers, but an interdivisional trade like that is exceedingly rare because the high-level prospect can hurt his former team (and management team) so much. It’s one thing to trade Alex Kirilloff to the Dodgers. It’s another to face him 19 times per year for the next seven years. But he could go to another competing team, which might eliminate them from chasing Bumgarner, Noah Syndergaard or Zach Greinke. It would be a fine line to walk. Depending on which playoff odds report you look at, even after closing the gap on the Twins, the Indians only have a 10-20% chance of winning the division. But they have about a 50% chance of making the playoffs, which jibes with what the MLB Standings say: that there are four teams chasing two Wild Card spots. It's more likely Meisel will play it safe, add a little help, and explore trading Bauer in the offseason. Left-handed Relief RumorsTwo left-handed relievers showed up in the rumor mill over the last 24 hours, and both look like they’re increasingly available. The Dodgers are reportedly interested in Jake Diekman, the 32-year-old Royals reliever, per Jerry Flanagan of MLB.com. The Royals have already started dumping players and Diekman has a $5.75M team option for 2020 that they’re not going to pay. Of course, they’re not going to pay it because he hasn’t been particularly effective: he has a 4.97 ERA and a 1.368 WHIP. Also, the Twins have been particularly unkind to him, tagging him for seven runs in 4.2 IP. But it’s nice that other teams can snap him up and leave alone some of the other candidates the Twins might be targeting. Flanagan says the Nationals have also had interest in Diekman. A clear level above Diekman is Roenis Elias, the southpaw Mariners closer. His stuff is not elite (4.07 ERA, 43K in 42 IP) but he’s an above average left-handed reliever with some upside and is under team control for two years after this one. That might make him less likely to be traded, but his GM is Dealin’ Jerry Dipoto, and with as many teams interested in some left-handed relief, it’s hard to envision him passing up a competitive deal. Two Buyers Talk Trade DeadlineIt should not be a surprise that the Cubs and Brewers are both planning on being buyers at the deadline. The Cubs have about a 70-80% chance of making the playoffs and the Brewers have about a 30% chance, per various odds reports. Both seem to have a measured approach to the deadline, but it’s worth noting that the Brewers have been linked to some of the top starting pitching names in the rumor mill like Bumgarner. Meanwhile, the Cubs are another team that has been linked to left-handed relievers. That makes three teams just today besides the Twins chasing left-handed relievers: the Dodgers, Nationals and Cubs. The list of quality left-handed relievers who are likely to be available isn’t that deep. Here's the start of a list for us to track as the deadline goes on:Will Smith (SFG)Tony Watson (SFG)Roenis Elias (SEA)Jake Diekman (KC)Maybe?Greg Holland (ARI)Zach Duke (CIN)The Twins don’t need a shutdown southpaw reliever – they already have one in Taylor Rogers – and they might be just as comfortable moving Martin Perez, Devin Smeltzer or Lewis Thorpe to the bullpen for the playoffs. But it looks like Watson and Elias would be the best fits for the team, and that’s a pretty small market to be chasing. Click here to view the article nicksaviking, Danchat and glunn 3
JW24 Verified Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 It would be really surprising to see Cleveland trade Bauer. With Kluber coming back, they could have a 4 man playoff rotation of Bauer, Kluber, Clevinger and Bieber, which is pretty darn good. Considering the devastating news Carlos Carrasco received, I would think Cleveland would wait until the very last minute to ship Bauer out given the fact Cleveland has a legitimate chance of winning the division yet. I imagine Cleveland's interest in trading Bauer stems mostly from his desire to essentially be a hired gun each year, and Cleveland not wanting to pay his price. Might as well get something for him now if the front office has no plans to sign him to an extension.
bustedstuff88 Verified Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Please not a repeat of Z Duke mikelink45 1
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 A pitcher that wants to go year to year with his contract? Pictured: Derek Falvey PseudoSABR, HrbekRules, jud6312 and 2 others 5
yarnivek1972 Verified Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 I seriously think I would rather have Ryan O’Rourke back than any of the lefties mentioned.
mikelink45 Old-Timey Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 I would love Bauer, but the relief names do not really interest me. Beyond Smith and Watson.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Even if Cleveland wants to trade Bauer, I doubt they send him within the division unless they're punting on 2020 or at least making it much harder. Otto von Ballpark 1
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Pass on Diekman, but I've had my eye on Elias all year. Good velocity and I always like those former starters turned relievers, he should be able to go multiple innings when needed. I'm often on an island as far as preferred pitchers go, but he's much closer to the top of my wish list than he is to the bottom.
nater79a Verified Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Greg Holland is a righty. Can probably scratch that one from this particular list.
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted July 17, 2019 Posted July 17, 2019 Wasn't Duke DFA'd 1-2 weeks ago?Yes, the Reds DFA'd Duke and released him earlier this month.
Patrick Wozniak Verified Member Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 Adding Bauer to the team wouldn't really be fair to Kepler. glunn, diehardtwinsfan, ashbury and 3 others 6
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted July 18, 2019 Posted July 18, 2019 Adding Bauer to the team wouldn't really be fair to Kepler.Bauer might request it. Patrick Wozniak, DannySD, Twins33 and 1 other 4
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