Should we be worried about Martin Perez and his innnings pitched?

[darin617]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/perezma02.shtml

 

Just curious if it's something the Twins should be worried about going forward. Last year Perez only threw 85 innings and already 41 innings so far in 2019.

 

 

[notoriousgod71]

If/when he comes back to Earth it will be due to him being a historically mediocre pitcher and not overwork.

[Brock Beauchamp]

I doubt it. It appears he was injured in May and June but a big reason his IP was so low in 2018 was because he was so bad that the Rangers demoted him to the bullpen.

[Joe A. Preusser]

If/when he comes back to Earth it will be due to him being a historically mediocre pitcher and not overwork.

I do not believe "historically mediocre" is an accuratw description. It seems like an anhedonic , knee-jerk reaction.

[Riverbrian]

I don't know about worrying about Perez specifically but in Baseball, I worry about everyone generally. 

[notoriousgod71]

 

I do not believe "historically mediocre" is an accuratw description. It seems like an anhedonic , knee-jerk reaction.

 

Mediocre seems accurate to me.

[yarnivek1972]

Perez has pitched over 185 innings twice in the last three years. I don’t think there is much cause for concern about his workload.

[gil4]

 

Mediocre seems accurate to me.

Mediocre is fine. When you said "historically mediocre," that could be taken two ways. If you meant "he has a reasonably long history of being mediocre," I would agree.

 

It could also be taken as "of all the mediocre pitchers there have been, his mediocrity is so mediocre that it notable on a historic level," and I would think more people would toke it that way. 

 

Of course, I'm not sure how one becomes "historically mediocre" in that sense; it's much easier to illustrate good or bad vs. historically good or bad - Brian Dozier was bad last year; Chris Davis was historically bad.

[Brock Beauchamp]

 

Mediocre is fine. When you said "historically mediocre," that could be taken two ways. If you meant "he has a reasonably long history of being mediocre," I would agree.

 

It could also be taken as "of all the mediocre pitchers there have been, his mediocrity is so mediocre that it notable on a historic level," and I would think more people would toke it that way. 

 

Of course, I'm not sure how one becomes "historically mediocre" in that sense; it's much easier to illustrate good or bad vs. historically good or bad - Brian Dozier was bad last year; Chris Davis was historically bad.

Never once have I read the phrase "historically mediocre" as being so mediocre that it's historic. The actual word "mediocre" defies a historic nature. Mediocrity is average; average is forgettable.

 

So, in that sense, "historically mediocre" is a pretty good way to describe Perez' career.

[ashbury]

I do not believe "historically mediocre" is an accuratw description. It seems like an anhedonic , knee-jerk reaction.

It may not work for everyone, but for my own knee-jerk reactions I swear by the obsessive-compulsive variety.

[Mr. Brooks]

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/perezma02.shtml

 

Just curious if it's something the Twins should be worried about going forward. Last year Perez only threw 85 innings and already 41 innings so far in 2019.

He actually threw 102 innings last year between mlb and milb. He threw 180+ each of the 2 prior seasons, so it shouldn't be a concern.

[flags]

 

I don't know about worrying about Perez specifically but in Baseball, I worry about everyone generally. 

 

this is the correct answer.

 

baseball is a funny sport. sometimes guys come out of nowhere and dominate for two months.  sometimes they flame out, and other times its the start of a career resurgence. who knows? this is why we watch and why i love baseball

[Joe A. Preusser]

Never once have I read the phrase "historically mediocre" as being so mediocre that it's historic. The actual word "mediocre" defies a historic nature. Mediocrity is average; average is forgettable.

 

So, in that sense, "historically mediocre" is a pretty good way to describe Perez' career.

You are absolutely tight, but that's exactly how I read it hence my own reaction to the OP.

 

Historically, he has been very mediocre. I have a ton of optimism he has now turned a corner and will continue to have above average success.

[wabene]

I do not believe "historically mediocre" is an accuratw description. It seems like an anhedonic , knee-jerk reaction.

Phew! I'm enjoying this thread! A little worrying because the hypochondriac in me almost got revved up when I looked up anhedonic.

[wabene]

Perez looks like a horse to me, but of course you never know.

[yarnivek1972]

Perez looks like a horse to me, but of course you never know.

 

A horse is a horse of course of course...

[gil4]

 

Perez looks like a horse to me, but of course you never know.

Just to be safe, we probably shouldn't let him run on the California road trips.

 

[ashbury]

Perez looks like a horse to me, but of course you never know.

"That's three good games in a row, Martín. Why the long face?"

[Doomtints]

It won't matter much if Perez runs out of gas in September.

[diehardtwinsfan]

well, he and his wife just had a baby, so he gets to skip a start...

 

To be fair, I'm not too worried given he topped 180 in 2016 and 2017. I'd be more worried that he comes back to earth... 

[twinssporto]

Perez is only 28 years old.  He could have finally found the form and mechanics to turn his game around to become an elite pitcher versus a mediocre pitcher.  Gibby is 31.  It took him until 29 or so before he found his groove.  I'm optimistic Perez can keep this up.